The Trump 2nd Term

[Dilip Panjwani]

The people who want Ukraine to keep fighting seem like they won't be satisfied until almost every man in that country is dead. The US government recognized that giving them more money and arms to continue that process is madness.

It is ironic that when Trump won the first time, critics were "This guy is going to start WW III !"
Now it's "Why won't this guy start WW III ?"

As I stated when the war started, Ukraine was facing a situation similar to what Cuba was facing a few decades ago: JFK had told Cuba he will destroy it, if it imports missiles from Russia. Both Cuba and Russia backed off to prevent a war. And now Russia told Ukraine it will be destroyed if it joins NATO with access to their missiles. Ukraine and NATO could also have backed off to prevent this war...

[Peter McKillop]

The people who want Ukraine to keep fighting seem like they won't be satisfied until almost every man in that country is dead.

The people I'm thinking of want Russia to STOP fighting, to STOP their illegal and immoral invasion, to STOP killing.

The US government recognized that giving them more money and arms to continue that process is madness.

So the Trump gov't decided that the right thing to do would be to pull the rug out from under Ukraine and stab them in the back while making sure to extort a huge and no doubt highly lucrative natural resource extraction deal. Where do you think the red line should be, Tom? If you want to hand Putin Ukraine then what's next? Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland?

It is ironic that when Trump won the first time, critics were "This guy is going to start WW III !"
Now it's "Why won't this guy start WW III ?"

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[Tom O'Donnell]

The people who want Ukraine to keep fighting seem like they won't be satisfied until almost every man in that country is dead. The US government recognized that giving them more money and arms to continue that process is madness.

It is ironic that when Trump won the first time, critics were "This guy is going to start WW III !"
Now it's "Why won't this guy start WW III ?"

[Peter McKillop]

Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський on X: "I would like to reiterate Ukraine’s commitment to peace. None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand ready to work under" / X

Looks like the Trump team got pretty much everything they wanted. Grade A negotiating, it seems like to me.

grade A negotiating = an extortive public beat down?

EDIT: Plus, if you read Z's text carefully, he didn't give up anything. Ukraine wants a "lasting peace." How do they attain that goal when they're dealing with a vile pos like Putin/Russia? Ukraine's future safety from Russia is the crux of their postion. They look to the USA for help and instead they get Trump saying, in effect, in exchange for a lucrative natural resources deal we'll do nothing to help you reach your goal of long-term safety.

[Tom O'Donnell]

Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський on X: "I would like to reiterate Ukraine’s commitment to peace. None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand ready to work under" / X

Looks like the Trump team got pretty much everything they wanted. Grade A negotiating, it seems like to me.

[Bob Gillanders]

Excellent interview with history professor Timothy Snyder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFAY...emocracyNow%21

If you disagree, I don't care.

[Dilip Panjwani]

https://www.tiktok.com/@libneo/video...ZT-8uA72Snrfq6

[Vlad Drkulec]

I'd give Trump 1.0 a C-, maybe a C. Would have been a C+ if he had gotten rid of Fauci and company in March 2020 or earlier.

Trump 2.0 thus far gets an A. He could get a A+ if he releases the Epstein list.

Supposedly that will take place later today once they redact the names of the victims.

[Tom O'Donnell]

I'd give Trump 1.0 a C-, maybe a C. Would have been a C+ if he had gotten rid of Fauci and company in March 2020 or earlier.

Trump 2.0 thus far gets an A. He could get a A+ if he releases the Epstein list.

[Bob Gillanders]

Trump 2.0 - The highlights for week 5

Trump continues his annoying “51^st state” attack.
Trump abandons Ukraine & Europe, pressures Zelenskyy to sign over mineral resources to USA.
Trump’s opinion polls dropping and Republicans facing backlash in town hall meetings.
Tesla car sales dropping along with Elon Musk.
Musk tries for mass firings of government employees via a threatening weekend email.
Democrats are still mostly “missing in action”, need some new leadership & direction.

[Vlad Drkulec]

We have had 4 weeks now of Trump 2.0, and hopefully MAGA is beginning to see thru the BS. But as they say, "You can't read the label from inside the bottle".

I came across this British commentator this morning. He seems to understand the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8BQ...RichardJMurphy

For possibly the first time in history, there are more Republicans than Democrats. The Democrats are picking the short end of every 90/10 and 80/20 and 60/40 issue.

[Bob Armstrong]

Sorry - posted in the wrong place.

[Tom O'Donnell]

You would think some English guy would be worried that his country has imported rape gangs and the government is more afraid of people pointing that out than the rapes themselves. But no.

[Dilip Panjwani]

He seems to understand the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8BQ...RichardJMurphy

No, he does not. He thinks that grabbing from 49% of the population to give it to the other 51% (the DM method) is what makes one win elections.

However, sensible citizens understand that preventing exploitation and oppression of all, and giving all the opportunity to work hard and smart and not rely on freebies, is what societies need, if they do not want to gradually turn into a Soviet Union or a Venezuela ...

By dramatically reducing the number of immigrant workers, and depending on local production rather than imports, American workers will be able to demand and get a fairer wage, and would be unlikely to get exploited and oppressed...
By reducing stupid regulations and reducing government borrowing, all citizens will get an opportunity to borrow easily to become an entrepreneur...

So Bob G, and Bob A, do you want America to gradually degenerate by adopting DM policies, or do you want our neighbor to become great again, and the Canadian government learning from them?

[Bob Gillanders]

We have had 4 weeks now of Trump 2.0, and hopefully MAGA is beginning to see thru the BS. But as they say, "You can't read the label from inside the bottle".

I came across this British commentator this morning. He seems to understand the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8BQ...RichardJMurphy