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Of course, the drug cartels have to compensate their victims too...
If they are able to physically harm others, they are certainly well enough to work!
I was talking about the whole blame chain not just drug dealers. For example, what about addicts whose mental health issues were caused or exacerbated by abusive parents? How about the pharmaceutical manufacturers? Don't they own part of the blame? How about politicians? It seems to me that many politicians secretly prefer the status quo. They don't want to pay for programs that would address the issues more effectively but they're appalled by extreme solutions (think nazi Germany). Sometimes I wonder if their preferred secret solution is for addicts to keep ODing on the streets, except quicker!
As for the rest (forcing people to work), you didn't answer my questions. Why? No concrete ideas?
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
I was talking about the whole blame chain not just drug dealers. For example, what about addicts whose mental health issues were caused or exacerbated by abusive parents? How about the pharmaceutical manufacturers? Don't they own part of the blame? How about politicians? It seems to me that many politicians secretly prefer the status quo. They don't want to pay for programs that would address the issues more effectively but they're appalled by extreme solutions (think nazi Germany). Sometimes I wonder if their preferred secret solution is for addicts to keep ODing on the streets, except quicker!
As for the rest (forcing people to work), you didn't answer my questions. Why? No concrete ideas?
You forgot to mention the doctors who are over-prescribing these addicting medications... If our 'government' stops doing the myriad useless and counter-productive activities they are doing, and concentrate only on enforcing the Natural Law, all who get harmed will get adequately compensated by those who cause the harm... and this would be the best way to discourage future crime.
As for forcing criminals to work, it would be excellent if our jails ensure that criminals work in whatever way they best can generate money to compensate those they have harmed and also to look after themselves.
... If our 'government' stops doing the myriad useless and counter-productive activities they are doing, and concentrate only on enforcing the Natural Law, all who get harmed will get adequately compensated by those who cause the harm... and this would be the best way to discourage future crime.
Dilip, imo you lose credibility when you keep trying to coast through discussions by invoking "Natural Law" without properly explaining what it is, how it would be administered, who will make the decisions, how will they be appointed to these positions, etc., etc. From my point of view, you've used the term so many times without explaining it that it's become meaningless, a recurring joke that long ago ceased to be funny. The same comments apply to "circles within circles."
As for forcing criminals to work, it would be excellent if our jails ensure that criminals work in whatever way they best can generate money to compensate those they have harmed and also to look after themselves.
Precisely how do the jails "ensure" that criminals work? And while the jails are busy doing that, who will be looking after all of the non-criminal addicts that need help?
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
You do seem to be forgetting the explanations on Chesstalk for Natural Law and 'circles within circles'... Chesstalk does maintain all of these, if you need them...
The Non-Criminal Addicts do need help from friends and relatives, the local 'circles', the local church or whichever community group exists near them, etc., including getting them into a hospital for intensive management, etc. As you have eloquently pointed out, the politicians in charge of our 'government' are not able to do so...
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