FIDE rating list from CFC's website

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

Michael reported, "I’ve now corrected the FIDE update query, so all (or the vast majority) of FIDE entries should be correct once the update goes up this morning."

[Gary Ruben]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

Handling high volumes of snail mail isn't really all that hard. I used to go to my desk around 9PM when the kids went to bed and work till 1 or 2 in the morning. This a few times a week. Then I went to bed, got up at 6:15 AM and went to work. Always seemed to be lots of work to do. We had around 700 members and I paired their tournaments and handled the outright disputes. Someone else handled time complaints.

The biggest single event I organized and paired was a Canadian Open CC championship which had over 400 entrants.

The volumes sometimes got so large the post office wanted me to sort the outgoing mail and they wanted to give me my own postal code. The didn't like 700+ club bulletins going into the slot at the post office. I was editor and publisher of the bulletin as well for about 5 years.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

I replied to something else you wrote before I saw this reply. Thanks for taking the initiative to help out your members.

I know how much time replying to mail can take. I did it for close to 20 years between the CCCA and then the ICCF tournament office. As an example, if I was informed that someone was in hospital and wouldn't be able to play for a month, or if someone had withdrawn, I would write the other 10 or 12 players in the event and inform them of the problem. That in the days of chess by regular mail.

No problem. I am not sure how I would handle things if we still relied on snail mail. Juggling email is plenty of work and at least provides the opportunity to reply quickly. People are interested in what is happening with the CFC. We have to pay attention to what happens with every contact by a member or prospective member and make sure that there is at the very least an acknowledgement of contact. If there are no members there is no need for a CFC. We should take an approach that recognizes that we are servants and stewards of the members federation though we will probably have to call them something else (players most likely) pretty soon under the new not for profit act rules... There are suggestions that we sell player licenses instead of memberships but that somehow seems offensive to me.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

I replied to something else you wrote before I saw this reply. Thanks for taking the initiative to help out your members.

I know how much time replying to mail can take. I did it for close to 20 years between the CCCA and then the ICCF tournament office. As an example, if I was informed that someone was in hospital and wouldn't be able to play for a month, or if someone had withdrawn, I would write the other 10 or 12 players in the event and inform them of the problem. That in the days of chess by regular mail.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

Vlad,

When a person sends an email to the office, and what is being asked can't be answered or resolved, the person sending the email should get a reply at least acknowledging receipt of the email.

Maybe some of the CFC executives should be taking on some of the tasks until the problem is solved. You should be able to so some of the tasks without much problem. Running a chess organization simply isn't very difficult.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

I think the president is ultimately responsible for making things work. If you're not getting a reply from the CFC office send the president an email as it should be his job to help you out and make sure you get a reply.

I agree with this post. You can send such email to president@chess.ca or to my hotmail.com account (vdrkulec). I will reply to most emails from either account from my hotmail account which is my preferred email address as the president account gets hijacked on a monthly basis to help send out the CFC newsletter. Emails to my hotmail account are usually read within a day unless I am away at a tournament. Most days I check my hotmail account several times a day. The president account I usually check every day or two as the traffic tends to be quite light.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

For any link to work, the players *correct* FIDE number has to be associated with them.
Perhaps that is too onerous on the CFC office at the present time.

From posts elsewhere on ChessTalk it seems the CFC office is not operational at the moment. I have
sent (if I recall) about 3 emails to info@chess.ca since I rejoined in September and none of them
have been answered, acknowledged or bounced.

There have been issues with the CFC office at times and there have been discussions about the need for good communications and prioritizing tasks. We are still working out some of the bugs. I believe that there has been some improvement recently. Obviously Gerry Litchfield did a good job for a number of years and was underappreciated. With a new ED there was a learning curve which has not always been smooth. Good communication with members is a priority as far as I am concerned and I apologize if this has not been your experience. We will strive to improve this.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

I have
sent (if I recall) about 3 emails to info@chess.ca since I rejoined in September and none of them
have been answered, acknowledged or bounced.

I think the president is ultimately responsible for making things work. If you're not getting a reply from the CFC office send the president an email as it should be his job to help you out and make sure you get a reply.

[Kerry Liles]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

Vlad, I have some good news and some bad news. :)

The good news: My proposal does not require any work at all. The link to FIDE website is already there. Look up your own rating, you'll see it "view this players FIDE rating" directly under your CFC rating.

The bad news: I tested the link. On several occasions it took me to the wrong person. :(

For any link to work, the players *correct* FIDE number has to be associated with them.
Perhaps that is too onerous on the CFC office at the present time.

From posts elsewhere on ChessTalk it seems the CFC office is not operational at the moment. I have
sent (if I recall) about 3 emails to info@chess.ca since I rejoined in September and none of them
have been answered, acknowledged or bounced.

[Bob Gillanders]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

Even this simple change would require having the original contractor revamp the design.

Vlad, I have some good news and some bad news. :)

The good news: My proposal does not require any work at all. The link to FIDE website is already there. Look up your own rating, you'll see it "view this players FIDE rating" directly under your CFC rating.

The bad news: I tested the link. On several occasions it took me to the wrong person. :(

[Alan Baljeu]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

Even this simple change would require having the original contractor revamp the design.

There's something wrong with that statement. The only change required should be to the webpage generation, inserting one column in a backend database, and typing a couple dozen FIDE ids.

Or what Michael has already done seems acceptable.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Bob, I think just the link to the players FIDE rating page is the best solution. The FIDE rating in the CFC database that requires constant updating should be left blank. Players can then easily click the FIDE link and get so much more information on their FIDE rating than we could ever provide. The simple solutions are often the best!

Even this simple change would require having the original contractor revamp the design. We are going to leave things as they are. FIDE ratings update once a month. Michael von Keitz has written a routine that should be able to update these on a more timely basis without as much manual input as was previously required. This was run a few days ago. The ratings should be up to date but there may be exceptions. If anyone is aware of a rating that is out of date let me know here.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

What's the CFC paying to have done accordng to the contract? Are they paying to have the pages updated with the FIDE ratings?

It's really as simple as that.

The members should be told.

[Kerry Liles]

Re: FIDE Ratings on CFC Member’s Rating Page

It is far from being ludicrous. If two players have the same name, the arbiter has no way to know how to match the player with his CFC rating. For example, suppose that we have the following players

John Doe CFC 1900,
John Doe FIDE 1904
John Doe CFC 1908,
John Doe FIDE 1910 .

What is the FIDE rating of the John Doe who has a CFC rating of 1900? The CFC Office knows that.

Ask the player to give his FIDE number and look it up. When players register for tournaments, how are they identified?
THAT might be the problem.

[Rene Preotu]

Re: FIDE rating list from CFC's website

What about the TD in a FIDE/CfC event. Typically, the open section in most EOCA events is double rated. This puts the onus on the tD to do the manual compilation.

In SwissManager you have the option to download the latest rating lists from FIDE and CFC