Anthropogenic Planetary Destruction (not a climate change thread)

[Bob Gillanders]

Re: Anthropomorphic Planet Destruction - Honey Bees in Danger

Some things one website (that I found right after I googled, dated from May last year) says that probably aren't killing honey bees (Monsanto and cell phones [the latter among my favourite things to suspect/loath] are among them):

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/ani...d-1-thing-that

Kevin,

I find the article title “5 things that aren’t killing honeybees – and 1 thing that definitely is” quite misleading.

The article lists the 5 suspected causes as:
Cellphones, GMO’s, Malnutrition, pesticides, and loss of habitat.

Then is goes on to argue that all of these are indeed part of the problem, except cellphones. Of course, Monsanto is heavily involved in GMO’s and pesticides.

I am particularly interested in the malnutrition angle. Instead of leaving the honeybees with an adequate supply of honey for the winter, they are feeding them instead a substitute like high fructose corn syrup (HFCS). Why? The HFCS is cheaper. So the same toxin (HFCS) included in many of our processed foods causing global obesity is also helping kill off the honeybees.

So, while the article does blame primarily the varroa mite for the recent acceleration of honeybee deaths, it does acknowledge that 4 of the 5 things “that aren’t killing honeybees” are indeed killing honeybees (just slowly).

Titles can be misleading, and the varroa mite is just killing off the honeybees faster than Monsanto can.

[Bob Armstrong]

Re: Anthropogenicic Planetary Destruction - Honey Bees in Danger

error - I'll try again later. Couldn't see how to delete my own post.

Bob A

[Kevin Pacey]

Re: Anthropogenicic Planetary Destruction - Honey Bees in Danger

Hi Bob G.

I wonder if the honey bees wouldn't be in such apparent great danger of going extinct if the main/fastest thing (the mite) that the article I quoted (but didn't fully read) says is killing them were to be dealt with effectively.

[Bob Armstrong]

Honey Bees & Monsanto Propaganda: Anthropogenicic Planetary Destruction

Hi Bob G.

I wonder if the honey bees wouldn't be in such apparent great danger of going extinct if the main/fastest thing (the mite) that the article I quoted (but didn't fully read) says is killing them were to be dealt with effectively.

Hi Kevin:

Be careful what you read. The propaganda machines of Monsanto are at work: http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/06/12152/buzz-monsanto

Bob A

[Kevin Pacey]

Re: Honey Bees & Monsanto Propaganda: Anthropogenicic Planetary Destruction

Hi Bob A.

A few skeptical readers left comments in the link that your last post gave, I noticed. This may be another case where the science is far from settled.

[edit: interesting that species going extinct en mass is considered a sign of the so-called end times. As well, for those who are curious, Ariel Sharon's death is part of a recent prophesy related to the return of JC made by a now deceased 108 year old rabbi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2TJlffaVzI

]

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Honey Bees & Monsanto Propaganda: Anthropogenicic Planetary Destruction

Hi Bob A.

A few skeptical readers left comments in the link that your last post gave, I noticed. This may be another case where the science is far from settled.

Parasites by themselves usually don't kill the host unless it is a step required to continue the life cycle. As with global warming you should believe none of what you read and only half of what you see. :)

[Bob Armstrong]

The North & Chemicals/Elements: Anthropogenic Planetary Destruction (APD)

Anthropogenic Planetary Destruction (not a climate change thread)

Chemicals: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...82082?cmp=fbtl

Bob A

The North American North & Chemicals/Elements: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20...medium=twitter .

Bob A

[Bob Gillanders]

Re: Honey Bees & Monsanto Propaganda: Anthropogenicic Planetary Destruction

As with global warming you should believe none of what you read and only half of what you see. :)

I found this exchange particularly entertaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eOFYAg_DPw

[Bob Armstrong]

Re: Honey Bees & Killings by Neonicotinoids: Anthropogenicic Planetary Destruction

Hi Kevin:

Be careful what you read. The propaganda machines of Monsanto are at work: http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/06/12152/buzz-monsanto

Bob A

http://seattleorganicrestaurants.com...ampaign=Buffer

Another article on how Neonicotinoids are killing Honey Bees (and Bumble Bees).

Bob A

[Bob Armstrong]

ACC/APD Newsletter # 1/14 - Jan. 19/14

The Human-Caused (Anthropogenic) Climate Change (ACC)/Planetary Destruction (APD) Newsletter
# 14-1 – Jan. 19, 2014

Hi Newsletter Subscribers:

"Neil Young is making things happen.": FB'er Nigel Hanrahan

Neil Young Tweet (Sunday, Jan. 17/14) : Neil Young @Neilyoung
Canada benefit is illusion. 71 per cent of tar pit profit goes to foreign owned Big Oil. Capital Extremists raping our land. The Passenger

Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation (ACFN) - Legal Defence Fund & Neil Young : http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/n...-singing-for-1 .

The Enbridge Gateway Pipeline – Opposition Documentary : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbZu...ature=youtu.be (somewhat longer than our usual 15 sec. sound-bite, but well worth it. Nikki Skuce in the documentary is a family friend.

Neil Young “Honour the Treaties” 4 Program Tour: http://arts.nationalpost.com/2014/01...medium=twitter .

Vote on Neil: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/enter...l#pd_a_7710157 .

Anti-Neil Young

Neil Misguided: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...rta-oil-sands/ .

Editor: Bob Armstrong: The Aboriginal first nations' historical ties to nature, give them a big advantage over we immigrants with respect to dealing with Anthropogenic Climate Change (ACC)/Planetary Destruction (APD).

Newsletter Goals: There are passionate advocates, and passionate so-called deniers both with respect to ACC & APD. This newsletter is just trying to do its small bit on sharing info & raising “awareness”. We hope to generate thereby, a more intelligent debate on these issues. Though we are among those concerned about the planetary changes occurring, which we see as negative, we do seek to present information on both sides of the debate (though our balance will be in favour of those concerned).

THIS NEWSLETTER IS FREE - If you think this might be of interest to any of your family or friends, I’d be pleased to have them subscribe – as I said, it is free. Just “forward” this e-mail to them, and they can decided whether to respond to me or not: bobarm@sympatico.ca .

[Bob Armstrong]

Northern Gateway Pipeline Opposition: Anthropogenic Planetary Destruction (APD)

Northern Gateway Pipeline

Naturalists’ group wants Northern Gateway decision delayed:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...&click=dlvr.it

Bob A

[Tom O'Donnell]

Re: Northern Gateway Pipeline Opposition: Anthropogenic Planetary Destruction (APD)

Northern Gateway Pipeline

Naturalists’ group wants Northern Gateway decision delayed:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...&click=dlvr.it

Bob A

How many of these people own cars?

[Bob Gillanders]

Re: Northern Gateway Pipeline Opposition: Anthropogenic Planetary Destruction (APD)

To continue on the topic of GMO's (Genetically modified organisms),
I am happy to hear that Vlad D. agrees that GMO products should be labelled.

For those of you unfamiliar with the topic,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS_8OJa0vUM

Washington State put GMO labelling to the ballot box,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu1BfEkdSCE

The vote was in Nov 2013, and the proposition was defeated.
The Yes side got only 49%. The big money anti labelling forces won a narrow victory.
Some predict it will be on the ballot again in 2016.

[Bob Armstrong]

Massive Honey Bee Killings: The APD Newsletter

Below is the second Issue of The APD Newsletter (Anthropogenic Planetary Destruction)

Massive Honey Bee Killings

The APD Newsletter

Human-Caused (Anthropogenic) Planetary Destruction


Issue # 14-2, January 27, 2014

Hi Newsletter Subscribers:

Massive Loss of Honey Bees

# 6/14 – 13/6/22
There is a Diagnosis:
“Colony Collapse Disorder” & Neonicotinoids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EIxzN1cmZc .

#8/14 – 2014?
Bee Losses & Neonicotinoids:
#8A – 2014?
How Neonicotinoids are killing Honey Bees (and Bumble Bees).
http://seattleorganicrestaurants.com...ampaign=Buffer
# 8B - 14/1/19
Article + Complete interview by June Stoyer with bee experts, Randy Oliver and Walter Haefeker: http://www.theorganicview.com/enviro...nd-bee-losses/

#3/14 – 14/1/20
Bumblebees & Pyrethoid Pesticide:
Study Links Pesticides Exposure to Reduced Size of Worker Bumblebees: http://www.scienceworldreport.com/ar...bumblebees.htm

# 7/14 – 13/6/19
Is the Varroa Mite Massively Killing Honey Bees?
Honey Bees & Mass Killings – the Monsanto Strategies: http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/06/12152/buzz-monsanto .

# 5/14
Is a Pollen-Borne Plant Virus Resembling HIV Massively Killing Honey Bees?
# 5A - 14/1/21
Honey Bees & TRSV (Tobacco Ringspot Virus): http://www.redorbit.com/news/science...lonies-012114/
# 5B - 14/1/21
Honey Bees & Tobacco Ringspot Virus: http://www.universityherald.com/arti...-represent.htm



# 11/14 – 13/11/22
Massive Loss of Butterflies
The Monarch Butterfly & Loss of Natural Vegetation & Insecticides – http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/24/su...=tw-share&_r=0

Editor: Bob Armstrong:

The Aboriginal first nations' historical ties to nature, give them a big advantage over we immigrants with respect to dealing with Anthropogenic Climate Change (ACC)/Planetary Destruction (APD). We ignore their wisdom at our peril.

Newsletter Goals: There are passionate advocates, and passionate so-called deniers both with respect to ACC & APD. This newsletter is just trying to do its small bit on sharing info & raising “awareness”. We hope to generate thereby, a more intelligent debate on these issues. Though we are among those concerned about the planetary changes occurring, which we see as negative, we do seek to present information on both sides of the debate (though our balance will be in favour of those concerned).

THIS NEWSLETTER IS FREE - If you think this might be of interest to any of your family or friends, I’d be pleased to have them subscribe – as I said, it is free. Just “forward” this e-mail to them, and they can decided whether to respond to me or not: bobarm@sympatico.ca .

Readers’ Feedback – We welcome your comments on what you read, see, etc., whether laudatory, questioning or constructive criticism. Or if you have something you’d like published, send it to us and we’ll discuss it to you – from links, public articles, etc., to you writing your own article to be published here.

NOTE: In copying, sometimes link URL's are changed and don't work. If this is the case, please just so comment to alert me and I'll repost the link.

Bob, APD Editor

[Kevin Pacey]

Re: Massive Honey Bee Killings: The APD Newsletter

Hi Bob

What do you think of speculation (a websearch will confirm) that a possible polar shift could be responsble for animal/bee die offs and any genuine climate change?