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  • #31
    Re: PC's Fading??: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

    Yeah, starting to look more like another minority.

    In this riding it all the same candidates for the three partys. I don't know why the PC's and NDP would use the same candidates and expect a different result.
    Gary Ruben
    CC - IA and SIM

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    • #32
      Re: PC's Fading??: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

      Just noticed the NDP has fielded a different candidate. She should get a lot of votes and lives in the riding. Used to be a councilor as I recall.
      Gary Ruben
      CC - IA and SIM

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      • #33
        Re: PC's Fading??: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

        Hi Bob,

        It's starting to look like the NDP is the party which would do the least damage.

        The Liberals are starting to sound desperate, falling just short of predicting biblical plagues if they lose. The PC's wanting us to buy into putting 100,000 people out of work.
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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        • #34
          Re: PC's Fading??: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

          Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
          Hi Bob,

          It's starting to look like the NDP is the party which would do the least damage.

          The Liberals are starting to sound desperate, falling just short of predicting biblical plagues if they lose. The PC's wanting us to buy into putting 100,000 people out of work.
          I'd love to be optimistic, and say the silent middle will say a pox on both the PC's and the Lib's, and vote NDP. But the PC's and the Lib's can't stand each other, and their soft voters will not abandon them on this one.

          It ain't going to happen - this is not the Bob Rae scenario, I am afraid.

          And the NDP'ers are caught in the crosshairs in ridings where the PC's and Lib's are in a horserace - the NDP'ers can't even comprehend the damage from a PC government, and will do anything, even vote Lib., holding their nose, to keep the PC's out.

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          • #35
            Looks like a 2-horse close race: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

            Globe Politics Tweet Today (Wed., May 21)

            Polls point to slim Tory advantage over Liberals in close Ontario race.

            Bob A

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            • #36
              Re: Looks like a 2-horse close race: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

              Election promises are like walking though a cow pasture. You have to watch where you step.
              Gary Ruben
              CC - IA and SIM

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              • #37
                Re: Looks like a 2-horse close race: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                I honestly do not understand Ontario politics.

                The Liberal's record over the past decade is atrocious. The mismanagement is unbelievable. The patform makes promises that we all know they cannot keep (see their balanced budget promise).

                The Conservatives run on a slash and burn platform guaranteed to make the average voter go running afraid. Seriously, create 1 million jobs and eliminate 100,000 jobs at the same time??

                What are the NDP doing wrong? They should be able to beat both these guys with their eyes closed. Are Ontario voters that much afraid after the Bob Rae days, 25 years later?

                And this is coming from someone with a fiscally conservative bent.

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                • #38
                  Re: Looks like a 2-horse close race: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                  Originally posted by Garland Best View Post
                  What are the NDP doing wrong? They should be able to beat both these guys with their eyes closed. Are Ontario voters that much afraid after the Bob Rae days, 25 years later?
                  They propped the government up for quite a while. That damages their brand as people who like the Liberals will vote for the liberals and those that don't will vote against both the Liberals and NDP. I don't think Hudak will be able to lay off that many people without it costing him more in severence than its worth. Attrition is the way to slash. Killing the green energy programs will save lots of money and allow electricity prices to fall which will get the province's manufacturing sector going again. Its no surprise that Toyota is talking about building their own power plants. The ones run by Ontario are just too expensive.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Looks like a 2-horse close race: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                    They propped the government up for quite a while. That damages their brand as people who like the Liberals will vote for the liberals and those that don't will vote against both the Liberals and NDP.
                    I intend to vote for the NDP. I think Horvath would do the least damage.
                    Gary Ruben
                    CC - IA and SIM

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                    • #40
                      Re: Looks like a 2-horse close race: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                      None of the parties are interested in chess (or my google failed)

                      Your search - chess site:ontariondp.ca - did not match any documents.

                      Your search - chess site:www.ontariopc.com - did not match any documents.

                      Your search - chess site:ontarioliberal.ca - did not match any documents.

                      Your search - chess site:gpo.ca - did not match any documents.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                        Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                        This is a bit discouraging:

                        Ontario Tories take slight lead over Liberals, NDP: poll :http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-to...poll-1.1689261

                        Bob A - ONDP Supporter
                        This is somewhat discouraging. Back in Feb./14, Tories were slightly in front. And with the election one week away, and having suffered through the campaign, we see: no change!

                        Election too close to call, poll suggests

                        Ontario voters look set to elect another minority government in an election next Thursday that is too close to call.


                        http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario_..._suggests.html

                        Should we start a pool on how long a minority PC government (I tremble even thinking it) will last?? I hope not long, because their damage potential is quite high!

                        Bob A

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                        • #42
                          Re: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                          Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                          This is somewhat discouraging. Back in Feb./14, Tories were slightly in front. And with the election one week away, and having suffered through the campaign, we see: no change!

                          Election too close to call, poll suggests

                          Ontario voters look set to elect another minority government in an election next Thursday that is too close to call.


                          http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario_..._suggests.html

                          Should we start a pool on how long a minority PC government (I tremble even thinking it) will last?? I hope not long, because their damage potential is quite high!

                          Bob A
                          Yeah we really can't afford to have a party that wants to balance the budget in there. It will seem too unnatural in Ontario.

                          The Liberals have been good for chess and not much else. Looking forward to reduced hydro costs if Hudak wins.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                            Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                            Yeah we really can't afford to have a party that wants to balance the budget in there. It will seem too unnatural in Ontario.

                            The Liberals have been good for chess and not much else. Looking forward to reduced hydro costs if Hudak wins.
                            Hi Vlad:

                            Although the headline says "close", in fact, whereas the Feb. poll had the PC's slightly ahead, this latest poll actually had the Liberals ahead by 2 % (which, with the margin of error allowed, is still admittedly close).

                            But it is so close, and the vote so close, that 2% may be much more significant at this point than earlier on.

                            If Hudak doesn't make it, it will be the best thing ever for the PC's. He'll be gone, and the PC's can try to move back in from right of Atilla the Hun! :D Maybe then they'd get power (unbelievable if they don't with the Liberals stinking up the ship).

                            Bob A

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                            • #44
                              Re: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                              Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                              Yeah we really can't afford to have a party that wants to balance the budget in there. It will seem too unnatural in Ontario.

                              The Liberals have been good for chess and not much else. Looking forward to reduced hydro costs if Hudak wins.
                              Let's look at one of Hudak's promises.

                              "On the chopping block are 100,000 jobs and any wage increases in the public sector, a 30 per cent tuition grant for college and university students and a tax credit of up to $1,500 a year for seniors who renovate their homes to make them more accessible."

                              Do you think a senior who need to install handles beside his toilet (as an example) so he can get from his wheelchair to the toilet, or keep himself steady cares about Hudak balancing the budget?

                              And, the other parts are sure to cost votes as well.

                              I voted at the advance poll and it wasn't for Hudak.

                              One thing though, I notice the Ontario Savings Bonds are on sale now. They will likely be a safer investment with a PC government. For those who have the money to lend to the government.
                              Gary Ruben
                              CC - IA and SIM

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                              • #45
                                Re: Ontario - Next Provincial Government??

                                The polls aren't always right and there are a lot of dynamics in this election.
                                Gary Ruben
                                CC - IA and SIM

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