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  • #16
    Re: Globe and Mail article

    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
    Care to provide some details? Like names and some arguments to back up your accusation (i.e. arguments that don't sound like they've been copied/pasted from some 1960s political nostalgia site)?
    The recent events in Ukraine are an excellent example. The incineration of protestors in Odessa by a violent mob, the bombing of civilians, schools, hospitals, the torment and killing of journalists, etc., etc., meet with a practical deafening silence by the corporate media here in Canada. You'd think they'd care about journalists hit by artillery from the Kiev regime and its "militias". When the PM of Ukraine calls Russians "sub-humans" and suggest that they be "eliminated" ... and this is passed over in silence by the media, what should one think?

    So too, in the UK, for example, when 50,000 people demonstrated outside the BBC just this week against the awful coverage of the cruel austerity policies of the Westminister regime .. there was dead silence from the BBC itself. One could go on. The alternate media/media reform movement has plenty more.

    These antediluvian views are simply re-gurgitating the government's own cold war nostalgia perspective. There is not critical journalistic distance at all. And that's what we should get from an "independent and free press". The truth is that the "press" is free for those who own one. And Canada has some of the highest media concentration (few owners with vast ownership) around.
    Last edited by Nigel Hanrahan; Wednesday, 25th June, 2014, 04:36 PM.
    Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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    • #17
      Re: Globe and Mail article

      Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post
      Bad judgement on Vlad's part, imo.
      Or maybe this is just a fall-back position on your part?

      In any case, the caravan moves on. It's really a waste of time to argue over things that have already been decided.
      Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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      • #18
        Re: Globe and Mail article

        I was reading on Kevin's blog that Mexico is supporting Kirsan.
        Gary Ruben
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        • #19
          Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

          I see Mig Greengard (chess journalist/part of G.K. campaign?) Edit: on G.K. website, Mig is referred to as his "aide"
          has taken a rather dim view of the Canadian endorsement of IllusionOf...

          If you have access to Twitter, you can check at: https://twitter.com/chessninja

          Here are some excerpts:

          Mig Greengard @chessninja
          Unless Drkulec is just making the whole thing up, which seems just as likely. Not sure which option makes him look worse.

          Mig Greengard @chessninja
          Maybe Drkulec should have actually spoken to people from the Kasparov campaign instead of this mysterious & unnamed "Kasparov loyalist."

          Mig Greengard @chessninja
          Drkulec, prez of Canadian chess fed, was told by someone (who?) Obama would call him for Kasparov & he didn't, so he's voting Kirsan?! Lol.
          Last edited by Kerry Liles; Wednesday, 25th June, 2014, 04:25 PM. Reason: clarification of Mig Greengard's collaboration with G.K.
          ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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          • #20
            Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

            Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
            I see Mig Greengard (chess journalist/part of G.K. campaign?) Edit: on G.K. website, Mig is referred to as his "aide"
            has taken a rather dim view of the Canadian endorsement of IllusionOf...

            If you have access to Twitter, you can check at: https://twitter.com/chessninja

            Here are some excerpts:

            Mig Greengard @chessninja
            Unless Drkulec is just making the whole thing up, which seems just as likely. Not sure which option makes him look worse.

            Mig Greengard @chessninja
            Maybe Drkulec should have actually spoken to people from the Kasparov campaign instead of this mysterious & unnamed "Kasparov loyalist."

            Mig Greengard @chessninja
            Drkulec, prez of Canadian chess fed, was told by someone (who?) Obama would call him for Kasparov & he didn't, so he's voting Kirsan?! Lol.
            A similar text on Kasparov's facebook.

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            • #21
              Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

              Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
              A similar text on Kasparov's facebook.
              Garry Kasparov shared a link.
              52 minutes ago
              I don't like to complain, but I will! When I spoke to the reporter yesterday he was serious about the international implications of Canada's chess federation's decision to support a Putin crony against me in the FIDE election. There is good reason to be serious, because even if you don't care about chess, or using the chess federation as a Russian asset, FIDE is the first major international sports organization to recognize Russian control of Crimea, over protests by the Ukrainian federation (which supports me). If this stands, other major federations like the IOC and FIFA can use it as a precedent and they are already under pressure from the Kremlin to do this. Not mentioning this in the story is a serious omission.

              As for the statements of the Canadian federation president, what can be said? He didn't speak to me or anyone on my campaign staff that we are aware of. But he was so offended by some "Kasparov people" he is supporting a Kremlin ally he admits has done nothing at all for chess in Canada? Why? Who did he talk to? Why not talk to me instead? I may have a fearsome reputation but I do not bite, unlike a famous Uruguayan footballer!

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              • #22
                Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

                Sun News TV's Ezra Levant wants to interview me on the FIDE election.

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                • #23
                  Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

                  Why doesn't he interview one of the candidates. After all, your executives made a decision on who to support.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                  • #24
                    Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

                    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                    Why doesn't he interview one of the candidates. After all, your executives made a decision on who to support.
                    He did interview Kasparov recently. We seem to be getting into a mouse that roared scenario.

                    Now the Kasparov people are claiming that we never talked to them. I guess they are disavowing all knowledge of their campaign team in Canada.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

                      I don't see any upside for Canadian chess coming out of such an interview.
                      Gary Ruben
                      CC - IA and SIM

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                      • #26
                        Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

                        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                        I don't see any upside for Canadian chess coming out of such an interview.
                        The narrative that the Kasparov campaign are trying to spin is this FIDE election is all about Putin and aliens. If it is and he still loses what does that say. Front page of the Globe and Mail. Here comes the blowback Sid Belzberg promised.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

                          Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                          The narrative that the Kasparov campaign are trying to spin is this FIDE election is all about Putin and aliens. If it is and he still loses what does that say.
                          Who cares? I thought the idea was to pick the person who would be best for Canadian chess. I don't know why it has to be explained to the entertainment media.

                          That article today will sit on the bottom of bird cages tomorrow. And I'll cancel my subscription as soon as it comes up because I didn't like the article.
                          Gary Ruben
                          CC - IA and SIM

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                          • #28
                            Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

                            Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                            He did interview Kasparov recently. We seem to be getting into a mouse that roared scenario.

                            Now the Kasparov people are claiming that we never talked to them. I guess they are disavowing all knowledge of their campaign team in Canada.
                            You talked to me and i am not sure who else. As I explained to you several times I am a friend of Gary's and a past patron of Canadian Chess that included almost single handedly financing both men's and women's teams for two different olympiads as well as donating tens of thousands of dollars worth of chess clocks for youth tournaments as well as financing two Canadian Closed tournaments.
                            I am not an official part of a campaign team and in fact as I already said other peoples actions have been independent of mine. As discussed with Hal Bond I was exploring various ways I could help together with Gary in getting involved in Canadian chess again. This included heavy promotion of chess in schools, possibly having big international tournaments in Canada and fostering promising youth talent. The first olympiad team we sponsored in Slovenia in 2002 included young Charboneau and Bluvstein who went on to become grandmasters. Pascal has remained life long friends with me.

                            At one point you said that i have "interests' to protect. Well did it ever occur to you that chess has been a big part of my life and i simply like helping out where I can? Yes I found it very disturbing and upsetting that you were getting the CFC into bed with some pretty evil people. THe CFC received more help from me then FIDE under Kirsan did for Canada ever. The majority of people here have been misled by a small minority and that my friend is very upsetting. Do you really believe that Kirsan will deliver on any promises for Canada? The fact is that i have a track record of delivering in Canada and he does not.

                            Vlad here is an out for you, Fide has simply deleted two different Federations from their web site that supported Gary and replaced them with newly minted federations hand picked by Kirsan (Gabon and Afghanistan). This is completely unlawful and Canada would have every right to rescind it's support in view of FIDEs unlawful actions. Do that and i can assure you that I will work with the CFC in helping out as I originally described with Hal and we can stop fighting and do what is truly best for chess in Canada.
                            Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Thursday, 26th June, 2014, 03:15 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Globe and Mail article on FIDE election

                              Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
                              ... rescind it's support in view of FIDEs unlawful actions. Do that and i can assure you that I will work with the CFC in helping out as I originally described with Hal and we can stop fighting and do what is truly best for chess in Canada.
                              This makes your side look desperate. You might want to reconsider horse-trading on the pages of ChessTalk as a strategy.
                              Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Globe and Mail article

                                Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                                Or maybe this is just a fall-back position on your part?

                                In any case, the caravan moves on. It's really a waste of time to argue over things that have already been decided.

                                Firstly, I don't know what you mean about a fall-back position. If you're suggesting that at any time I was pressing for a vote or even an endorsement for Kasparov, go back through my posts, you won't find any evidence of that..

                                Secondly, who's arguing? I asked a question, probably a question that many would like to see answered. Vlad presented, in the media that you so roundly criticize, a view that neither FIDE election candidate will affect chess in Canada. If he really meant that, he should have and would have pushed for abstention, given the polarization of the voting members AND given the firestorm of controversy on the subject right here on ChessTalk. Instead, Vlad pushed for the very action that will only exacerbate that controversy and will alienate almost half the voting members from the CFC Executive. He's already motivated Sasha Starr to begin a campaign against this decision and against Vlad's CFC presidency. Plus along the way he alienated a potential corporate sponsor. Vlad's decision will be reverberating negatively for quite some time in the Canadian chess community, diverting attention and sponsorship away from the very things Vlad wants us to be focusing on. He has no one to blame but himself.

                                Vlad's entire presentation in that interview is a sham. Why aren't you criticizing THAT media presentation? They sugarcoated the whole controversy, with the help of a patronizing Vlad Drkulec.

                                The best example of that was Vlad's quote in the article about KI being Buddhist in nature and seeking "world peace".

                                "Holy beauty pageant, Batman! KI is just a sweet innocent seeking world peace!"

                                "Yes, Robin. And so was Saddam Hussein. And Khadafi in Libya. And now, Assad in Syria and Putin in Russia. Unfortunately, Robin, the obsequious corporate media just won't leave these gentle peace-lovers alone. But maybe Vlad Drkulec can get the message across."


                                You say, Nigel, the caravan moves on, yet you continue your hate-filled campaign here against those in Canada and indeed the whole world that have done things you don't agree with. You say arguing about past decisions is a waste of time... and then you argue against past decisions!

                                The caravan moves on for those who do things YOU agree with, which at least for now includes Vlad. For all others, you take the time to rail against them, calling them vile and sinister and all sorts of other hate-mongering names not suitable to be read by children, while simultaneously censoring someone else for posting a news account that you deemed inappropriate for children.

                                The Emperor has no clothes!

                                I also took note that in this post on another thread,

                                http://www.chesstalk.info/forum/show...2064#post82064

                                you wrote regarding the U.S.:

                                "to this very day it is official US military doctrine that no outside body shall be allowed to prosecute US soldiers for war crimes and such offenses. They view themselves as above international law. Literally."

                                What you might want to think about, given what you obviously think about this U.S. immunity, is your OWN immunity here on this board. You are the only poster here who cannot have his posts censored. You are above moderator law. Literally.

                                In order to be consistent with your own views, you should REFRAIN from posting opinion here at all. But of course, you won't see it that way. For you, it is ok for children to read your hate-filled rants. Not anyone else's though... unless they agree with you.
                                Only the rushing is heard...
                                Onward flies the bird.

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