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Eric Hansen, Nikolay Noritsyn, and Andrew Peredun are all playing in the Durban Open 2014. Their games can be viewed at:
http://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2014-durban
http://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2014-durban
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Aren't Andrew Peredun and Nikolay Noritsyn team coaches for our WYCC team? How can they be the coach for the team and play in the tournament at the same time. This makes absolutely no sense. CFC just paid for their free trip to South Africa for them to play in a tournament. Ridiculous. -
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The coaches are not allowed inside the playing hall during the rounds so they can do whatever they want in their spare time. They decided to play chess and I don't see anything wrong with this.Originally posted by Andy Shaw View Post
Check the schedule for both tournaments and you'll see why Andrew and Nikolay are playing.Comment
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I can't believe they have enough time to play, even if they can't go inside the WYCC playing hall. There is always things to do : they can wait for the younger kids who finish early or analyze some of the kids past games... The CFC (and incidentally the parents and CYCC organizers) pay a real fortune to send coaches to the WYCC. It's quite shocking to see that they are not fully committed to it.Comment
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Felix, we finally agree on something. ;)Originally posted by Felix Dumont View PostGary Ruben
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Do you (or anybody else) have $$$ numbers for this year?Originally posted by Felix Dumont View PostComment
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I don't have the numbers (they were not published yet).
The CYCC organizers must give $150 per entry, so about $45 000 was sent to the CFC this year. I don't know how much it costs to send a coach there, but considering the flight, the expenses once there and the salary, it must be close to $5000 if not more (depending on whether rooms and meals are free for all coaches).Comment
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Those lucky dogs! If Id known in advance I would get to play in an international tournament with grandmasters I would have applied too to be a coach.Comment
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Nikolay and Andrew discussed with Head of Delegation, Richard Berube before joining the tournament. Most of the games review and preparation are carried out at night as well as in the morning before the games.
Below is the reply from Richard regarding this topic (he has no chesstalk account):
"Playing in the open is not a problem.
There is no point in waiting for five hours doing almost nothing. the coaches who plays the open are in the same playing area and can collect valuable information about playing condition. They clearly understand that there first priority is there coaching.
Richard
HOD Canada WYCC"Comment
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Felix, I don't remember seeing you at any WYCC in the last years. I've been at 2 WYCC (Brazil and Slovenia) and during the rounds the coaches were using the time for relaxing activities (sleeping, swimming, playing ping pong, visiting the city etc.). If these 2 coaches decided to play that's their problem. Do you think that after a 3-4 hour game the kids can analyze their game right away? Waiting for them at the tournament playing hall and analyze the game never happened before. The coaches have a schedule so as long as their tournament play doesn't interfere with it I don't see any conflict.Originally posted by Felix Dumont View Post
I think you're overreacting here.Last edited by Rene Preotu; Monday, 22nd September, 2014, 03:10 PM.Comment
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After 4 rounds Nikolay is the only leader with 4 points.
The similar tournament was last year in UAE, also during the WYCC. I was the only Canadian who played in that event. The schedule of that tournament was not so convenient for coaches to play. In general, I believe it's not a bad idea for the organizers to combine WYCC with some open tournament.
Tournament in UAE was much stronger. My first 2 games were against GMs.Last edited by Victor Plotkin; Monday, 22nd September, 2014, 04:20 PM.Comment
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[QUOTE=Victor Plotkin;87363]After 4 rounds Nikolay is the only leader with 4 points.
Are you sure about that, Victor? ChessBomb had Nikolay losing his R2 game to Frederick Odendaal.Comment
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I've been following Durban Open at the official site:
http://chess-results.com/tnr143577.a...flag=30&wi=984
Victor is correct: Nikolay has 4/4. Eric Hansen is tied for second with 3.5/4, Andrew is in close pursuit. Congratulations!
I would also like to join my voice to Rene's and Victor's based on what I saw during the Al-Ain Open last year. Coaches and even officials (as long as they were chess people, not just bureaucrats) from countries such as India, Ukraine, Turkmenistan, Russia, Lithuania etc. happily played in that very strong tournament. I believe all four of our coaches: Richard, Aman, Nikolay and Andrew - are making big sacrifices to go to support the kids in a place with bad food and questionable security. They are mature people who are perfectly capable to set their own schedules, and since it is, and has always been, completely in the open, we ought to support their decisions, not to second-guess it from afar. Being someone who happily contributed the $150 Felix mentioned, I agree with James Tan and Richard on that.Comment
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Guys have a problem muti-tasking :)...ask any woman...she will tell you :)Originally posted by Vadim Tsypin View Post
Just for the fun...does anyone know how many coaches are playing in this event...and from which countries? I am not surprised that Richard is not multi-tasking...he is probably one of the most dedicated chess coaches in Canada...he is constantly preparing material that will help his students.
The bottom line...is it possible to focus on your students and focus on your tournament at the same time...and give 100% to each committment?
Of course, if our perception is that these folks are not being compensated in a way that they should be and that additional perks are necessary to make the task worthwhile...then that is another story.
LarryComment
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The players get $500 honorarium for ten or twelve long days of work coaching the players. Given the time they spend we are probably looking at about one third of minimum wage. Two of the coaches are not playing. All of these coaches have had rave reviews in their previous WYCC outings. Don't look on this as a lack of commitment but rather as a way to get more bang for the money we spent sending them to South Africa and using their usual down time to play chess. Access to the playing area for coaches was an issue last year. There is no question that these two coaches have access to the playing area.
If we continuously crap over people who volunteer for such assignments can we really wonder why we have trouble getting volunteers?Comment
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