Looking to buy used Monroi device and used Chronos Chess Clock

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  • #16
    Re: Looking to buy used Monroi device and used Chronos Chess Clock

    There is nothing to stop someone using a MonRoi to enter a few extra moves to produce a position which might occur in the future on the real board. From this, they could at least view (and study) a future position.

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    • #17
      Re: Looking to buy used Monroi device and used Chronos Chess Clock

      Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
      The problem with MonRoi is that they totally missed the boat. In this day and age, you don't develop a 300$ single use device. That's insane. Anybody who's bought one probably regret it.
      I certainly don't regret it. I probably recorded my 600th game or so on one tonight. I even thought about getting a few more and a hub to use in a class.

      And the device stores only 50 games...
      That's news to me. I am pretty sure that I had about 200 on mine at one point and mine is fairly old with only a 256 MByte card. The newer ones use larger cards. The typical game takes up about 7 kbytes with signature file and time file implying 30,000 games or so as a limit.

      What is that? 1988?

      You'd be doing much better developping a 3$ app for the iPhone and/or Android. I'd be willing to pay for an official iphone/android app to record chess games.
      So would everyone that wants to use Fritz or Stockfish to help out in their games.
      Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Tuesday, 16th June, 2015, 11:22 PM.

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      • #18
        Re: Looking to buy used Monroi device and used Chronos Chess Clock

        Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand this feeling of safety that goes with monroi. It would be incredibly easy to hack such a device so that it feeds you with moves while pretending to be a simple recording machine.

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        • #19
          Re: Looking to buy used Monroi device and used Chronos Chess Clock

          Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
          There is nothing to stop someone using a MonRoi to enter a few extra moves to produce a position which might occur in the future on the real board. From this, they could at least view (and study) a future position.
          Hugh: Good point - I have never used one myself so I don't know how easy it is to 'undo' such speculative move entering... Besides, it would be rather obvious that the person was entering more than one move?

          M Cloutier thinks that it is easy to hack a Monroi to run some other program(s) but I am not so sure of that... in principle perhaps, but in the real world I think it would be quite a lot of work if it is even possible [the Monroi probably runs a custom operating system that would be very hard to hack without a lot of inside knowledge - much harder than hacking an Android phone which has a known and relatively open OS]
          ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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          • #20
            Re: Looking to buy used Monroi device and used Chronos Chess Clock

            Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
            Hugh: Good point - I have never used one myself so I don't know how easy it is to 'undo' such speculative move entering... Besides, it would be rather obvious that the person was entering more than one move?

            M Cloutier thinks that it is easy to hack a Monroi to run some other program(s) but I am not so sure of that... in principle perhaps, but in the real world I think it would be quite a lot of work if it is even possible [the Monroi probably runs a custom operating system that would be very hard to hack without a lot of inside knowledge - much harder than hacking an Android phone which has a known and relatively open OS]
            I mean, physically hacking the device. That should be easy enough. If I remember correctly, somebody did it a few years ago.

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