FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

[Victor Plotkin]

According to motions, approved on the last on-line voting members meeting, the deadline for chess Olympiad is 5 months before the start of the tournament. The next Olympiad is scheduled to start on Sep 23, 2018 (FIDE calendar). 5 months before this date is Apr 23, 2018. If FIDE doesn't change the frequency of publishing FIDE rating, the last rating list before the deadline will be on Apr 1, 2018. For the Women Team only, the last published CFC rating before Apr 23, 2018 shall be taken into account as well.

Here is the list of top-10 active (according to FIDE rules) players for both National and Women Team.

May 1, 2017.

National Team:

1. GM E.Bareev 2666
2. GM A.Kovalyov 2643
3. GM E.Hansen 2614
4. GM B.Sambuev 2539
5. GM K.Spraggett 2534
6. GM A.Lesiege 2525
7. GM R.Preotu 2496
8. IM N.Noritsyn 2473
9. IM A.Hambleton 2471
10. GM T.Roussel-Roozmon 2463.

Women Team (FIDE - CFC - average)

1. FM Q.Zhou - the Champion.
2. WIM A.Matras-Clement 2231-2305-2268. 20 points bonus for 2nd place. 2268 + 20 = 2288.
3. WIM Y.Yuan 2243-2337-2290. 10 points penalty (did not play in the last Canadian Women). 2290 - 10 = 2280
4. WIM N.Khoudgarian 2100-2248-2174
5. L.Agbabishvili 2096-2260-2178. 10 points penalty (did not play in the last Canadian Women). 2178 - 10 = 2168.
6. WFM A.Botez 2051-2273-2162. 10 points penalty (did not play in the last Canadian Women). 2162 - 10 = 2152.
7. WFM S.Demchenko 1988-2182-2085
8. L.Orlova 1933-2108-2021. 10 points penalty (did not play in the last Canadian Women). 2021 - 10 = 2011.
9. WIM M.-J.Ouellet 1964-2061-2013. 10 points penalty (did not play in the last Canadian Women). 2013 - 10 = 2003.
10. M.Roy 1977-1958-1968. 10 points penalty (did not play in the last Canadian Women). 1968 - 10 = 1958.

[John Upper]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

If there's no Canadian Championship before 2018, does Tomas again automatically make the Olympiad team as the "current" Canadian Champion?

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

If there's no Canadian Championship before 2018, does Tomas again automatically make the Olympiad team as the "current" Canadian Champion?

There will be a Canadian Championship before 2018.

[Victor Plotkin]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

If there's no Canadian Championship before 2018, does Tomas again automatically make the Olympiad team as the "current" Canadian Champion?

According to our rules:

a. The National Team shall consist of 5 players, as follows:

1). The winner of the last Canadian Closed that took place 5-36 months prior to the Olympiad and that has not been used as a qualification for a previous Olympiad.
2). The 4 highest ranked players as determined by formula.
3). If no tournament described in a1 took place, then the 5 highest ranked players as determined by formula.

So no Canadian Closed = 5 players by rating.

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

2). The 4 highest ranked players as determined by formula.

Can you remind the latest formula?

[Victor Plotkin]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

Can you remind the latest formula?

For the National Team: the last FIDE + bonus/penalty for the last Canadian Closed.

20 points bonus for 2nd, 10 points bonus for 3rd, 10 points penalty if a player did not play/withdrew.

For the Women Team: the average (last FIDE) - (last CFC) + bonus/penalty for the last Canadian Women.

[Victor Plotkin]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

I edited the initial list for the Women Team. I forgot to subtract 10 points for the players who did not play in the last Canadian Women.

[Ken MacDonald]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

According to our rules:

a. The National Team shall consist of 5 players, as follows:

1). The winner of the last Canadian Closed that took place 5-36 months prior to the Olympiad and that has not been used as a qualification for a previous Olympiad.
2). The 4 highest ranked players as determined by formula.
3). If no tournament described in a1 took place, then the 5 highest ranked players as determined by formula.

So no Canadian Closed = 5 players by rating.

So, Tomas would not qualify based on his Cdn. Ch. win regardless.

[Paul Leblanc]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

CFC games played in the past year:
Bareev 0
Kovalyev 0
Hansen 0
Sambuev 66 (bravo!)
Spraggett 0
Lesiege 16
Preotu 18
Noritsyn 11
Hambleton 0
Roussel-Roozman 18

[Andy Shaw]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

CFC games played in the past year:
Bareev 0
Kovalyev 0
Hansen 0
Sambuev 66 (bravo!)
Spraggett 0
Lesiege 16
Preotu 18
Noritsyn 11
Hambleton 0
Roussel-Roozman 18

Who is Kovalyev?

[John Coleman]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

Anton Kovalyev: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Kovalyov

Andy, it's great that you have an inquiring mind, but you've gotta learn how to look things up for yourself.

[Hugh Brodie]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

Kovalyov...not Kovalyev.

[Paul Leblanc]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

My point is that our strong players are not supporting Canadian tournaments with the exception of Bator. Should we care?

[Victor Plotkin]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

My point is that our strong players are not supporting Canadian tournaments with the exception of Bator. Should we care?

According to your calculation, Bator played more games last year (66) than all other top-10 players combined (63). Really amazing.

At the same time, I could not blame our strong players in this situation. I can mention many different reasons for this issue. For example,

1. Canadian Open was extremely weak, without any 2600+ player.

2. No Canadian Closed last year.

3. Quebec Open was just 8-round event (no norm opportunities, only 3 GMs - all from Quebec).

If we compare Canada with other countries, we can ask questions:

How many games played Aronian in Armenia in last 5 years? Topalov in Bulgaria? Anand in India?

[Aman Hambleton]

Re: FIDE and CFC ratings for Olympiad-2018

My point is that our strong players are not supporting Canadian tournaments with the exception of Bator. Should we care?

Interesting point, Paul.

Inversely, some (most) of these players are competing against much tougher competition outside of Canada. Imagine comparing FIDE rated games outside of Canada between the players on this list. I would argue that Bator's exceptional and certainly unparalleled experience in Canadian weekenders is less useful than those who compete against strong foreign IM's, GM's and future Olympiad opponents on a semi to regular basis.

And, as Victor mentioned, its embarrassing to bring up the fact that no strong player plays in Canada when Canada has not had a decent tournament to offer in quite some time.