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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View PostActually it is worst then even Sharia law in America sneaking up on us. Here is how the Mosque in Callfornia tries to rationalize its hatred of Jews (we meant to say "destroy them, not to annihilate them" as per the explanation the Mosque sent to Breitbart news.
Mosque Defends Imam: He Meant ‘Destroy’ Jews, Not ‘Annihilate’ Them 4294 19everytime it hurts, it hurts just like the first (and then you cry till there's no more tears)
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Originally posted by Peter McKillop View PostHi Bob. The tide may finally have turned. When a prominent Republican like Graham speaks out so explicitly against Trump you can bet there's a lot more going on behind the scenes.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/27/linds...-sessions.html
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Originally posted by ben daswani View PostWow, brave you. Eager to sacrifice the freedoms of American women, communities of color and LGBTQ people for what you acknowledge is a tiny chance that Trump will buck the trend and stop being influenced by religious extremists and racists, at least when it comes to international relations.
And you're basically acknowledging that Americans voted against their own interests when they elected Trump. You're now arguing that Trump's election was in the world's interests, not the American people's.
In the list of atrocities committed around the world dismissing a bunch of transsexuals from serving is really low on my list. I hope Trump starts dismissing women serving overseas in pointless neverending conflicts next. Then men. Let national defence mean exactly that.Last edited by Tom O'Donnell; Friday, 28th July, 2017, 11:27 AM."Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
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Originally posted by ben daswani View PostWhat about when their aims are to impinge on the freedoms of others? You have more reverence for the law than you do for freedom itself? Yeah, you're a real libertarian.
Before someone starts posting about these guys using polygamy as a smokescreen for marrying underage girls and basically brainwashing them, I am speaking more generally about group marriages with competent adults able to consent, not be coerced, etc.
To clarify (from an earlier ruling): http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...court-1.856480
" ... Likewise, Canada's polyamorists — people with multiple partners outside a religious context — said they were relieved because Bauman said the law shouldn't apply to them unless they decide to formalize their unions.
"The formality of marriage is really not a big issue in the polyamorous community," said John Ince, the spokesman for the Canadian Polyamoury Advocacy Association.
But George MacIntosh, the lawyer appointed by the court to argue against the law, said the decision unfairly criminalizes the actions of consenting adults and he may appeal the decision.
"Three consenting adults who are causing no harm ought not to be committing a crime. The judge found that people in that circumstance are committing a crime if there was some celebration of the marriage, and we don't think that the section says that," said MacIntosh. ..."Last edited by Tom O'Donnell; Friday, 28th July, 2017, 07:33 AM."Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
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The Donald hires only quality people - not.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-l...d-steve-bannon"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
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Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
This is the most ironic thing I've ever read on this board. Trump, and the Republican Party as a whole, are notoriously bad at working with the other. It's truly the party of straight, white males.
"Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
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Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View PostA couple of men in Bountiful, BC were convicted of polygamy a few days ago. In general, personally I think competent adults marrying groups of other competent adults should be legal. That doesn't mean they should just ignore the law. Using your logic, a pro-life person might say that the freedom of the "unborn baby" is more important than the freedom of the woman to abort and therefore kidnapping her and forcing her to birth is "more free". Your super-genius judgement doesn't entitle you to ignore laws. It does allow you to try and change them.
Before someone starts posting about these guys using polygamy as a smokescreen for marrying underage girls and basically brainwashing them, I am speaking more generally about group marriages with competent adults able to consent, not be coerced, etc.
To clarify (from an earlier ruling): http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...court-1.856480
" ... Likewise, Canada's polyamorists — people with multiple partners outside a religious context — said they were relieved because Bauman said the law shouldn't apply to them unless they decide to formalize their unions.
"The formality of marriage is really not a big issue in the polyamorous community," said John Ince, the spokesman for the Canadian Polyamoury Advocacy Association.
But George MacIntosh, the lawyer appointed by the court to argue against the law, said the decision unfairly criminalizes the actions of consenting adults and he may appeal the decision.
"Three consenting adults who are causing no harm ought not to be committing a crime. The judge found that people in that circumstance are committing a crime if there was some celebration of the marriage, and we don't think that the section says that," said MacIntosh. ..."
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View PostThat one is too easy. The bigot is Ben Daswani.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqAkUXKT5Y
Edit: please add some screeching at the end. I'm too lazy to look it up."Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
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Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View PostDo you know the gender, sexual preferences, and ethnicity of all the people in that picture? Who is the bigot?
"Trump, and the Republican Party as a whole, are notoriously bad at working with the other. It's truly the party of straight, white males."
All I said was that Trump, and the Republican Party as a whole, are bad at working with people other than straight, white males. This is a demonstrable fact. Both in their voting block and in the makeup of the party--both at the state and federal level--the party is vastly underrepresented by women, people of color, and people from queer communities, especially when compared to the Democratic Party.
Then I posted a picture that exemplifies that. I did nothing more. I never said I knew anything about every individual in the picture. Get a clue. Be a big boy. Respond to the shit in bold. You said you like people who can work with others; then why do you support Trump, when the Republican Party, and Trump in particular, have trouble working with those different from themselves?everytime it hurts, it hurts just like the first (and then you cry till there's no more tears)
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Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Posthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqAkUXKT5Y
Edit: please add some screeching at the end. I'm too lazy to look it up.
Make up your collective Trump-loving mind.everytime it hurts, it hurts just like the first (and then you cry till there's no more tears)
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Originally posted by ben daswani View PostYou're no more clever than Belzberg or Drkulec. You're arguing against points I've never attempted to make. I never said I knew the "gender, sexual preferences, and ethnicity of all the people in the picture." Revisit what I said:
"Trump, and the Republican Party as a whole, are notoriously bad at working with the other. It's truly the party of straight, white males."
All I said was that Trump, and the Republican Party as a whole, are bad at working with people other than straight, white males. This is a demonstrable fact. Both in their voting block and in the makeup of the party--both at the state and federal level--the party is vastly underrepresented by women, people of color, and people from queer communities, especially when compared to the Democratic Party.
Then I posted a picture that exemplifies that. I did nothing more. I never said I knew anything about every individual in the picture. Get a clue. Be a big boy. Respond to the shit in bold. You said you like people who can work with others; then why do you support Trump, when the Republican Party, and Trump in particular, have trouble working with those different from themselves?
Trump seems to get along with Putin. Putin has nukes. I care more about whether two guys with nukes get along than if Trump gets along with Meryl Streep, Rosie O'Donnell or Alex Baldwin. That's why I referenced Clinton talking about Putin when I said "getting along with folks". I guess that was me not being clear.
To clarify, here is the link and my comment referencing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqAM1rTY6jA
I prefer people who can work with other folks. I am no fan of Putin but if the US can have military bases around the world, why can't other countries?Last edited by Tom O'Donnell; Friday, 28th July, 2017, 11:31 AM."Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
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