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  • How many CFC members are female?

    As of May 2019, how many CFC members are female?

    Is it somewhere around 100?

    Thanks in advance!

  • #2
    Hi Neil:

    You need to ask for two statistics: Adult Female; Junior Girl.

    The percentages are dramatically different and an average is just playing with statistics.

    IMHO

    Bob A

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    • #3
      Hi Bob, thanks so much for your interesting reply.

      Without getting into the weeds, Junior or not, isn't a female membership still just a female membership?

      And that number, as of May '19, sits somewhere around 100 members?

      Thanks again.

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      • #4
        Hi Neil:

        Of course you are right that there is merit in knowing the unaged female membership in the CFC.

        I am proposing that the analysis can be more beneficial if more sophisticated statistics are teased out.

        For example, it will be obvious if the CFC will supply the statistics I have requested in this thread, that the percentage of junior girls among juniors has skyrocketed (Compared to past historical periods). Yet the percentage of adult female members, as a percentage of all adult members, is still totally abysmal.

        Questions:

        1. Why are we so unable to attract women to play official tournament chess? Any suggestions?

        2. Given the expected percentage of girl members among current juniors, why is the attrition rate at 20 years old (Date of adult membership) - and it is in fact earlier than that when the percentage plummets - so high? Why is it that girls play chess and women don't?? Any suggestions.

        Bob A

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        • #5
          I wonder if the membership database has a field for gender. Because if not, I would not want to sort out who is who, so I suspect that unless the CFC has previously made an effort to track this, the answer is anybody's guess. If there is a gender field, and the data is up to date and complete then I would hope the answer to the question should be easy to find. (IMHO) I too would be interested to know.

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          • #6
            That fewer women play chess than men is something we suspect. That the ratio would be so further skewed by the statistics in the CFC database can be explained by the types of events that chess players become known to the CFC. Long weekend slugfest tournaments that last all day and are generally attended by eccentric fellows sweating it out until they drop. This is not a scene that appeals to any more than maybe three woman in a million - and they would have to be semi-decent chess players at that...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ian Anderson View Post
              I wonder if the membership database has a field for gender. Because if not, I would not want to sort out who is who, so I suspect that unless the CFC has previously made an effort to track this, the answer is anybody's guess. If there is a gender field, and the data is up to date and complete then I would hope the answer to the question should be easy to find. (IMHO) I too would be interested to know.
              The CFC database does have a field for gender although in my experience, it is usually blank.

              Speaking as an organizer, I do not collect gender when taking in entries so gender is never specified to the CFC. I suspect that is true for most organizers.

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              • #8
                Hi Bob,

                Thanks for another thought provoking reply!

                First of all I completely agree with you on the matter of being able to drill down on data. The more data the better one can understand their current state and abilities ... or lack thereof. But, with my queries, all I want to do is put the finishing touches on a animated infographic which, by the numbers, describes the Chess Federation of Canada.

                And yes, to your questions I do have a suggestion.

                If it were up to me I'd reach out to WIM Agnieszka Matras-Clement. See if she'd be interested in this whole matter ...and then some.

                Thanks again!

                peace.
                n.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Roger Patterson View Post
                  The CFC database does have a field for gender although in my experience, it is usually blank.
                  The CFC website provides through search option Top list including male/female selection

                  Top 100
                  1 Matras-Clement, Agnieszka Leduc, AB 2351 2019-07-01
                  2 Zhou, Qiyu Ottawa, ON 2291 2019-04-22
                  3 Agbabishvili, Lali York, ON 2280 2019-04-02
                  4 Botez, Alexandra Burnaby, BC 2280 2019-08-04
                  5 Burtasova, Anna Toronto, ON 2253 2019-04-02
                  6 Golubeva, Oksana Toronto, ON 2226 2019-04-02
                  7 Khoudgarian, Natalia Toronto, ON 2221 2017-12-31
                  8 Gansvind, Valeria Victoria, BC 2123 2019-04-22
                  9 Starr, Nava Thornhill, ON 2123 2019-04-02
                  10 Syeda, Shabana Edmonton, AB 2083 2019-05-12
                  11 Tian, Shi Yuan (Sherry) Richmond, BC 2045 2019-08-05
                  12 Cui, Cynthia Fredericton, NB 2023 2019-08-20
                  13 He, Emma Toronto, ON 1990 2019-08-20
                  14 Gibbard, Alina Iuliana Langley, BC 1988 2019-08-05
                  15 Konara, Harshani Winnipeg, MB 1985 2019-07-30
                  16 Botez, Andrea Burnaby, BC 1899 2019-07-09
                  17 Qiao, Cindy North York, ON 1895 2019-09-02
                  18 Baylon, Glenda Brampton, ON 1888 2019-06-09
                  19 Hua, Michelle Waterdown, ON 1882 2019-09-22
                  20 Cao, Yingying (Lucy) Edmonton, AB 1876 2019-08-30
                  21 Qu, Greta Mississauga, ON 1816 2019-08-20
                  22 Peng, Sarah Toronto, ON 1790 2019-08-20
                  23 Guo, Haotong Hazel Markham, ON 1773 2019-09-02
                  24 Wang, Rachel Zihan Longueuil, QC 1763 2019-09-08
                  25 Gu, Stephanie Vancouver, BC 1718 2019-07-18
                  26 Gilani, Mysha Toronto, ON 1701 2019-07-10
                  27 Ruchinskaya, Valerie Woodbridge, ON 1591 2019-09-29
                  28 Guo, Yu Han (Veronica) Vancouver, BC 1589 2019-08-05
                  29 Myrzaibraimova, Aibike Winnipeg, MB 1581 2019-09-24
                  30 Qian, Jessica Richmond, BC 1580 2019-07-10
                  31 Tao, Ellen Windsor, ON 1578 2019-05-12
                  32 Guo, Anni Markham, ON 1519 2019-09-29
                  33 D'Souza, Carina Toronto, ON 1505 2019-09-02
                  34 Xie, Joanna (Ruo Jin) Oakville, ON 1503 2019-08-20
                  35 Shen, Isamel Markham, ON 1492 2019-08-20
                  36 Lin, Angela Toronto, ON 1472 2019-08-25
                  37 Plostak, Larysa Coquitlam, BC 1470 2019-08-05
                  38 Zhuang, Jinrong (Winnie) Richmond Hill, ON 1431 2019-08-20
                  39 Liao, Yilin Richmond Hill, ON 1419 2019-08-20
                  40 Zhong, April Yunwei North York, ON 1417 2019-09-29
                  41 Singh, Anya Markham, ON 1407 2019-09-02
                  42 Zhang, Joyce Surrey, BC 1403 2019-08-20
                  43 Mok, Gillian Vancouver, BC 1399 2019-08-05
                  44 Surya, Dania Mississauga, ON 1392 2019-08-20
                  45 Wu, Ingrid Toronto, ON 1348 2019-08-11
                  46 Anand, Nandhitha Mississauga, ON 1314 2019-07-24
                  47 Rusonik, Alyssa Thornhill, ON 1277 2019-01-13
                  48 Enkhtaivan, Michelle Edmonton, AB 1258 2019-08-30
                  49 Moayyed, Dorsa North York, ON 1250 2019-08-11
                  50 Chen, Helen Calgary, AB 1248 2019-08-20
                  51 Chen, Rae Mississauga, ON 1226 2019-07-27
                  52 Ksenych, Alexa Etobicoke, ON 1220 2019-07-10
                  53 Dahale, Siddhi North York, ON 1214 2019-08-20
                  54 Plotkin, Julia Thornhill, ON 1211 2019-09-29
                  55 Wu, Vivian Richmond Hill, ON 1165 2019-06-02
                  56 Yan, Yunhui Toronto, ON 1146 2019-09-02
                  57 Chiriac, Nicole Kitchener, ON 1144 2019-07-23
                  58 Wang, Sophia Richmond Hill, ON 1142 2019-08-20
                  59 Chen, Alina Yuexi Mississauga, ON 1123 2019-09-22
                  60 Li, Julia Toronto, ON 1111 2019-06-22
                  61 Ling, Cici Saint John, NB 1083 2019-03-31
                  62 Wu, Nora Richmond Hill, ON 1083 2019-08-11
                  63 Rabinovich, Inna Sidney, BC 1075 2019-04-22
                  64 Liu, Lily Richmond Hill, ON 1063 2019-09-02
                  65 Wood, Monika Hamilton, ON 1042 2019-05-03
                  66 Ran, Alice Oakville, ON 1034 2019-08-20
                  67 Liao, Jody Mississauga, ON 1008 2019-08-20
                  68 Boucher, Anne-Marie Haileybury, ON 1005 2019-07-10
                  69 Yang, Amanda Vancouver, BC 1005 2019-08-05
                  70 Tao, Kaitlyn Windsor, ON 984 2019-09-24
                  71 Liu, Gloria Mississauga, ON 973 2019-08-20
                  72 Gauthier, Annie Earlton, ON 961 2019-07-10
                  73 Li, Mengbai Burnaby, BC 956 2019-09-02
                  74 Morin, Sato Oakville, ON 948 2019-10-01
                  75 Kaur, Eveleen Windsor, ON 920 2019-08-11
                  76 Guan, Marie Richmond Hill, ON 917 2019-08-20
                  77 Xu, Carol Aurora, ON 903 2019-06-02
                  78 Shan, Lyvia Coquitlam, BC 895 2019-09-02
                  79 deCosta, Dayna Toronto, ON 892 2019-08-20
                  80 Sorgard, Abigail Churchbridge, SK 870 2019-07-18
                  81 Souchko, Larissa Etobicoke, ON 855 2019-09-23
                  82 Caron, Ashley Guelph, ON 846 2019-04-14
                  83 Takeuchi, Nobuko Oakville, ON 822 2019-10-01
                  84 Sreekumar, Gauri Brampton, ON 819 2019-07-24
                  85 Eisenberg, Colette Vancouver, BC 799 2019-04-22
                  86 Green, Hallie Toronto, ON 799 2019-08-11
                  87 Liao, Jocelyn Mississauga, ON 799 2019-08-20
                  88 Wang, Jessica Oakville, ON 799 2019-05-30
                  89 Yang, Isabella Mississauga, ON 791 2019-09-02
                  90 Guan, Isabelle Markham, ON 784 2019-08-20
                  91 Inozemtseva, Milana Queensville, ON 784 2019-08-20
                  92 Luo, Margaret Aurora, ON 781 2019-06-02
                  93 Zhu, Victoria Windsor, ON 709 2018-05-13
                  94 Qian, Ashley Newmarket, ON 653 2019-08-20
                  95 Zhao, Catherine Xiquan Toronto, ON 651 2019-08-20
                  96 Tang, Gwendolyn Vancouver, BC 607 2019-08-05
                  97 Zeng, Chloe Thornhill, ON 590 2019-08-11
                  98 Semianiuk, Catherine Toronto, ON 582 2019-03-30
                  99 Johnson, Katelyn Waterdown, ON 578 2019-08-27
                  100 Liu, Kailey Scarborough, ON 578 2019-06-27
                  For >100 would be necessary to look in a raw database.


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                  • #10
                    No Quebec players...such as Maili-Jade Ouellet? She has a rating of 2292. It shows her with a CFC membership expiry date of 2014.09.01, and she has played in many CFC events since then. Why aren't FQE members recognized as CFC members in the database?

                    Also - where does Qiyu Zhou live? The CFC reads "Ottawa ON"; the FQE site reads "Outaouais" - meaning the Quebec side of the Ottawa River - in the Gatineau area.
                    Last edited by Hugh Brodie; Sunday, 6th October, 2019, 09:50 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
                      No Quebec players...such as Maili-Jade Ouellet?

                      Her CFC membership is expired. She does show up on the list if you change the filter from "current members" (the default) to "all members". I'm assuming that most Quebec players don't have a current CFC membership given the relationship/agreement between the CFC and FQE.

                      Steve

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Steve Douglas View Post


                        Her CFC membership is expired. She does show up on the list if you change the filter from "current members" (the default) to "all members". I'm assuming that most Quebec players don't have a current CFC membership given the relationship/agreement between the CFC and FQE.

                        Steve
                        I had probably edited my post after you posted your response.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

                          The CFC website provides through search option Top list including male/female selection

                          Top 100
                          1 Matras-Clement, Agnieszka Leduc, AB 2351 2019-07-01
                          2 Zhou, Qiyu Ottawa, ON 2291 2019-04-22
                          3 Agbabishvili, Lali York, ON 2280 2019-04-02
                          4 Botez, Alexandra Burnaby, BC 2280 2019-08-04
                          5 Burtasova, Anna Toronto, ON 2253 2019-04-02
                          6 Golubeva, Oksana Toronto, ON 2226 2019-04-02
                          7 Khoudgarian, Natalia Toronto, ON 2221 2017-12-31
                          8 Gansvind, Valeria Victoria, BC 2123 2019-04-22
                          9 Starr, Nava Thornhill, ON 2123 2019-04-02
                          10 Syeda, Shabana Edmonton, AB 2083 2019-05-12
                          11 Tian, Shi Yuan (Sherry) Richmond, BC 2045 2019-08-05
                          12 Cui, Cynthia Fredericton, NB 2023 2019-08-20
                          13 He, Emma Toronto, ON 1990 2019-08-20
                          14 Gibbard, Alina Iuliana Langley, BC 1988 2019-08-05
                          15 Konara, Harshani Winnipeg, MB 1985 2019-07-30
                          16 Botez, Andrea Burnaby, BC 1899 2019-07-09
                          17 Qiao, Cindy North York, ON 1895 2019-09-02
                          18 Baylon, Glenda Brampton, ON 1888 2019-06-09
                          19 Hua, Michelle Waterdown, ON 1882 2019-09-22
                          20 Cao, Yingying (Lucy) Edmonton, AB 1876 2019-08-30
                          21 Qu, Greta Mississauga, ON 1816 2019-08-20
                          22 Peng, Sarah Toronto, ON 1790 2019-08-20
                          23 Guo, Haotong Hazel Markham, ON 1773 2019-09-02
                          24 Wang, Rachel Zihan Longueuil, QC 1763 2019-09-08
                          25 Gu, Stephanie Vancouver, BC 1718 2019-07-18
                          26 Gilani, Mysha Toronto, ON 1701 2019-07-10
                          27 Ruchinskaya, Valerie Woodbridge, ON 1591 2019-09-29
                          28 Guo, Yu Han (Veronica) Vancouver, BC 1589 2019-08-05
                          29 Myrzaibraimova, Aibike Winnipeg, MB 1581 2019-09-24
                          30 Qian, Jessica Richmond, BC 1580 2019-07-10
                          31 Tao, Ellen Windsor, ON 1578 2019-05-12
                          32 Guo, Anni Markham, ON 1519 2019-09-29
                          33 D'Souza, Carina Toronto, ON 1505 2019-09-02
                          34 Xie, Joanna (Ruo Jin) Oakville, ON 1503 2019-08-20
                          35 Shen, Isamel Markham, ON 1492 2019-08-20
                          36 Lin, Angela Toronto, ON 1472 2019-08-25
                          37 Plostak, Larysa Coquitlam, BC 1470 2019-08-05
                          38 Zhuang, Jinrong (Winnie) Richmond Hill, ON 1431 2019-08-20
                          39 Liao, Yilin Richmond Hill, ON 1419 2019-08-20
                          40 Zhong, April Yunwei North York, ON 1417 2019-09-29
                          41 Singh, Anya Markham, ON 1407 2019-09-02
                          42 Zhang, Joyce Surrey, BC 1403 2019-08-20
                          43 Mok, Gillian Vancouver, BC 1399 2019-08-05
                          44 Surya, Dania Mississauga, ON 1392 2019-08-20
                          45 Wu, Ingrid Toronto, ON 1348 2019-08-11
                          46 Anand, Nandhitha Mississauga, ON 1314 2019-07-24
                          47 Rusonik, Alyssa Thornhill, ON 1277 2019-01-13
                          48 Enkhtaivan, Michelle Edmonton, AB 1258 2019-08-30
                          49 Moayyed, Dorsa North York, ON 1250 2019-08-11
                          50 Chen, Helen Calgary, AB 1248 2019-08-20
                          51 Chen, Rae Mississauga, ON 1226 2019-07-27
                          52 Ksenych, Alexa Etobicoke, ON 1220 2019-07-10
                          53 Dahale, Siddhi North York, ON 1214 2019-08-20
                          54 Plotkin, Julia Thornhill, ON 1211 2019-09-29
                          55 Wu, Vivian Richmond Hill, ON 1165 2019-06-02
                          56 Yan, Yunhui Toronto, ON 1146 2019-09-02
                          57 Chiriac, Nicole Kitchener, ON 1144 2019-07-23
                          58 Wang, Sophia Richmond Hill, ON 1142 2019-08-20
                          59 Chen, Alina Yuexi Mississauga, ON 1123 2019-09-22
                          60 Li, Julia Toronto, ON 1111 2019-06-22
                          61 Ling, Cici Saint John, NB 1083 2019-03-31
                          62 Wu, Nora Richmond Hill, ON 1083 2019-08-11
                          63 Rabinovich, Inna Sidney, BC 1075 2019-04-22
                          64 Liu, Lily Richmond Hill, ON 1063 2019-09-02
                          65 Wood, Monika Hamilton, ON 1042 2019-05-03
                          66 Ran, Alice Oakville, ON 1034 2019-08-20
                          67 Liao, Jody Mississauga, ON 1008 2019-08-20
                          68 Boucher, Anne-Marie Haileybury, ON 1005 2019-07-10
                          69 Yang, Amanda Vancouver, BC 1005 2019-08-05
                          70 Tao, Kaitlyn Windsor, ON 984 2019-09-24
                          71 Liu, Gloria Mississauga, ON 973 2019-08-20
                          72 Gauthier, Annie Earlton, ON 961 2019-07-10
                          73 Li, Mengbai Burnaby, BC 956 2019-09-02
                          74 Morin, Sato Oakville, ON 948 2019-10-01
                          75 Kaur, Eveleen Windsor, ON 920 2019-08-11
                          76 Guan, Marie Richmond Hill, ON 917 2019-08-20
                          77 Xu, Carol Aurora, ON 903 2019-06-02
                          78 Shan, Lyvia Coquitlam, BC 895 2019-09-02
                          79 deCosta, Dayna Toronto, ON 892 2019-08-20
                          80 Sorgard, Abigail Churchbridge, SK 870 2019-07-18
                          81 Souchko, Larissa Etobicoke, ON 855 2019-09-23
                          82 Caron, Ashley Guelph, ON 846 2019-04-14
                          83 Takeuchi, Nobuko Oakville, ON 822 2019-10-01
                          84 Sreekumar, Gauri Brampton, ON 819 2019-07-24
                          85 Eisenberg, Colette Vancouver, BC 799 2019-04-22
                          86 Green, Hallie Toronto, ON 799 2019-08-11
                          87 Liao, Jocelyn Mississauga, ON 799 2019-08-20
                          88 Wang, Jessica Oakville, ON 799 2019-05-30
                          89 Yang, Isabella Mississauga, ON 791 2019-09-02
                          90 Guan, Isabelle Markham, ON 784 2019-08-20
                          91 Inozemtseva, Milana Queensville, ON 784 2019-08-20
                          92 Luo, Margaret Aurora, ON 781 2019-06-02
                          93 Zhu, Victoria Windsor, ON 709 2018-05-13
                          94 Qian, Ashley Newmarket, ON 653 2019-08-20
                          95 Zhao, Catherine Xiquan Toronto, ON 651 2019-08-20
                          96 Tang, Gwendolyn Vancouver, BC 607 2019-08-05
                          97 Zeng, Chloe Thornhill, ON 590 2019-08-11
                          98 Semianiuk, Catherine Toronto, ON 582 2019-03-30
                          99 Johnson, Katelyn Waterdown, ON 578 2019-08-27
                          100 Liu, Kailey Scarborough, ON 578 2019-06-27
                          For >100 would be necessary to look in a raw database.

                          This rating list only includes players with established ratings. As was suggested already the default is current CFC members. A better query is to include All members having played a game in the past year or two years. All members is a bad term, it should have been all players.

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                          • #14
                            Gao, Lucy not in the list, where is she? may need check the database details

                            :-)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Grey Guo View Post
                              Gao, Lucy not in the list, where is she? may need check the database details

                              :-)
                              Seems her membership lapsed on 2019-10-01. Per database she has F.

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