How many CFC members are female?

[Neil Frarey]

As of May 2019, how many CFC members are female?

Is it somewhere around 100?

Thanks in advance!

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Neil:

You need to ask for two statistics: Adult Female; Junior Girl.

The percentages are dramatically different and an average is just playing with statistics.

IMHO

Bob A

[Neil Frarey]

Hi Bob, thanks so much for your interesting reply.

Without getting into the weeds, Junior or not, isn't a female membership still just a female membership?

And that number, as of May '19, sits somewhere around 100 members?

Thanks again.

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Neil:

Of course you are right that there is merit in knowing the unaged female membership in the CFC.

I am proposing that the analysis can be more beneficial if more sophisticated statistics are teased out.

For example, it will be obvious if the CFC will supply the statistics I have requested in this thread, that the percentage of junior girls among juniors has skyrocketed (Compared to past historical periods). Yet the percentage of adult female members, as a percentage of all adult members, is still totally abysmal.

Questions:

1. Why are we so unable to attract women to play official tournament chess? Any suggestions?

2. Given the expected percentage of girl members among current juniors, why is the attrition rate at 20 years old (Date of adult membership) - and it is in fact earlier than that when the percentage plummets - so high? Why is it that girls play chess and women don't?? Any suggestions.

Bob A

[Ian Anderson]

I wonder if the membership database has a field for gender. Because if not, I would not want to sort out who is who, so I suspect that unless the CFC has previously made an effort to track this, the answer is anybody's guess. If there is a gender field, and the data is up to date and complete then I would hope the answer to the question should be easy to find. (IMHO) I too would be interested to know.

[Ian Anderson]

That fewer women play chess than men is something we suspect. That the ratio would be so further skewed by the statistics in the CFC database can be explained by the types of events that chess players become known to the CFC. Long weekend slugfest tournaments that last all day and are generally attended by eccentric fellows sweating it out until they drop. This is not a scene that appeals to any more than maybe three woman in a million - and they would have to be semi-decent chess players at that...

[Roger Patterson]

I wonder if the membership database has a field for gender. Because if not, I would not want to sort out who is who, so I suspect that unless the CFC has previously made an effort to track this, the answer is anybody's guess. If there is a gender field, and the data is up to date and complete then I would hope the answer to the question should be easy to find. (IMHO) I too would be interested to know.

The CFC database does have a field for gender although in my experience, it is usually blank.

Speaking as an organizer, I do not collect gender when taking in entries so gender is never specified to the CFC. I suspect that is true for most organizers.

[Neil Frarey]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for another thought provoking reply!

First of all I completely agree with you on the matter of being able to drill down on data. The more data the better one can understand their current state and abilities ... or lack thereof. But, with my queries, all I want to do is put the finishing touches on a animated infographic which, by the numbers, describes the Chess Federation of Canada.

And yes, to your questions I do have a suggestion.

If it were up to me I'd reach out to WIM Agnieszka Matras-Clement. See if she'd be interested in this whole matter ...and then some.

Thanks again!

peace.
n.

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

The CFC database does have a field for gender although in my experience, it is usually blank.

The CFC website provides through search option Top list including male/female selection

Top 100

1	Matras-Clement, Agnieszka	Leduc, AB	2351	2019-07-01
2	Zhou, Qiyu	Ottawa, ON	2291	2019-04-22
3	Agbabishvili, Lali	York, ON	2280	2019-04-02
4	Botez, Alexandra	Burnaby, BC	2280	2019-08-04
5	Burtasova, Anna	Toronto, ON	2253	2019-04-02
6	Golubeva, Oksana	Toronto, ON	2226	2019-04-02
7	Khoudgarian, Natalia	Toronto, ON	2221	2017-12-31
8	Gansvind, Valeria	Victoria, BC	2123	2019-04-22
9	Starr, Nava	Thornhill, ON	2123	2019-04-02
10	Syeda, Shabana	Edmonton, AB	2083	2019-05-12
11	Tian, Shi Yuan (Sherry)	Richmond, BC	2045	2019-08-05
12	Cui, Cynthia	Fredericton, NB	2023	2019-08-20
13	He, Emma	Toronto, ON	1990	2019-08-20
14	Gibbard, Alina Iuliana	Langley, BC	1988	2019-08-05
15	Konara, Harshani	Winnipeg, MB	1985	2019-07-30
16	Botez, Andrea	Burnaby, BC	1899	2019-07-09
17	Qiao, Cindy	North York, ON	1895	2019-09-02
18	Baylon, Glenda	Brampton, ON	1888	2019-06-09
19	Hua, Michelle	Waterdown, ON	1882	2019-09-22
20	Cao, Yingying (Lucy)	Edmonton, AB	1876	2019-08-30
21	Qu, Greta	Mississauga, ON	1816	2019-08-20
22	Peng, Sarah	Toronto, ON	1790	2019-08-20
23	Guo, Haotong Hazel	Markham, ON	1773	2019-09-02
24	Wang, Rachel Zihan	Longueuil, QC	1763	2019-09-08
25	Gu, Stephanie	Vancouver, BC	1718	2019-07-18
26	Gilani, Mysha	Toronto, ON	1701	2019-07-10
27	Ruchinskaya, Valerie	Woodbridge, ON	1591	2019-09-29
28	Guo, Yu Han (Veronica)	Vancouver, BC	1589	2019-08-05
29	Myrzaibraimova, Aibike	Winnipeg, MB	1581	2019-09-24
30	Qian, Jessica	Richmond, BC	1580	2019-07-10
31	Tao, Ellen	Windsor, ON	1578	2019-05-12
32	Guo, Anni	Markham, ON	1519	2019-09-29
33	D'Souza, Carina	Toronto, ON	1505	2019-09-02
34	Xie, Joanna (Ruo Jin)	Oakville, ON	1503	2019-08-20
35	Shen, Isamel	Markham, ON	1492	2019-08-20
36	Lin, Angela	Toronto, ON	1472	2019-08-25
37	Plostak, Larysa	Coquitlam, BC	1470	2019-08-05
38	Zhuang, Jinrong (Winnie)	Richmond Hill, ON	1431	2019-08-20
39	Liao, Yilin	Richmond Hill, ON	1419	2019-08-20
40	Zhong, April Yunwei	North York, ON	1417	2019-09-29
41	Singh, Anya	Markham, ON	1407	2019-09-02
42	Zhang, Joyce	Surrey, BC	1403	2019-08-20
43	Mok, Gillian	Vancouver, BC	1399	2019-08-05
44	Surya, Dania	Mississauga, ON	1392	2019-08-20
45	Wu, Ingrid	Toronto, ON	1348	2019-08-11
46	Anand, Nandhitha	Mississauga, ON	1314	2019-07-24
47	Rusonik, Alyssa	Thornhill, ON	1277	2019-01-13
48	Enkhtaivan, Michelle	Edmonton, AB	1258	2019-08-30
49	Moayyed, Dorsa	North York, ON	1250	2019-08-11
50	Chen, Helen	Calgary, AB	1248	2019-08-20
51	Chen, Rae	Mississauga, ON	1226	2019-07-27
52	Ksenych, Alexa	Etobicoke, ON	1220	2019-07-10
53	Dahale, Siddhi	North York, ON	1214	2019-08-20
54	Plotkin, Julia	Thornhill, ON	1211	2019-09-29
55	Wu, Vivian	Richmond Hill, ON	1165	2019-06-02
56	Yan, Yunhui	Toronto, ON	1146	2019-09-02
57	Chiriac, Nicole	Kitchener, ON	1144	2019-07-23
58	Wang, Sophia	Richmond Hill, ON	1142	2019-08-20
59	Chen, Alina Yuexi	Mississauga, ON	1123	2019-09-22
60	Li, Julia	Toronto, ON	1111	2019-06-22
61	Ling, Cici	Saint John, NB	1083	2019-03-31
62	Wu, Nora	Richmond Hill, ON	1083	2019-08-11
63	Rabinovich, Inna	Sidney, BC	1075	2019-04-22
64	Liu, Lily	Richmond Hill, ON	1063	2019-09-02
65	Wood, Monika	Hamilton, ON	1042	2019-05-03
66	Ran, Alice	Oakville, ON	1034	2019-08-20
67	Liao, Jody	Mississauga, ON	1008	2019-08-20
68	Boucher, Anne-Marie	Haileybury, ON	1005	2019-07-10
69	Yang, Amanda	Vancouver, BC	1005	2019-08-05
70	Tao, Kaitlyn	Windsor, ON	984	2019-09-24
71	Liu, Gloria	Mississauga, ON	973	2019-08-20
72	Gauthier, Annie	Earlton, ON	961	2019-07-10
73	Li, Mengbai	Burnaby, BC	956	2019-09-02
74	Morin, Sato	Oakville, ON	948	2019-10-01
75	Kaur, Eveleen	Windsor, ON	920	2019-08-11
76	Guan, Marie	Richmond Hill, ON	917	2019-08-20
77	Xu, Carol	Aurora, ON	903	2019-06-02
78	Shan, Lyvia	Coquitlam, BC	895	2019-09-02
79	deCosta, Dayna	Toronto, ON	892	2019-08-20
80	Sorgard, Abigail	Churchbridge, SK	870	2019-07-18
81	Souchko, Larissa	Etobicoke, ON	855	2019-09-23
82	Caron, Ashley	Guelph, ON	846	2019-04-14
83	Takeuchi, Nobuko	Oakville, ON	822	2019-10-01
84	Sreekumar, Gauri	Brampton, ON	819	2019-07-24
85	Eisenberg, Colette	Vancouver, BC	799	2019-04-22
86	Green, Hallie	Toronto, ON	799	2019-08-11
87	Liao, Jocelyn	Mississauga, ON	799	2019-08-20
88	Wang, Jessica	Oakville, ON	799	2019-05-30
89	Yang, Isabella	Mississauga, ON	791	2019-09-02
90	Guan, Isabelle	Markham, ON	784	2019-08-20
91	Inozemtseva, Milana	Queensville, ON	784	2019-08-20
92	Luo, Margaret	Aurora, ON	781	2019-06-02
93	Zhu, Victoria	Windsor, ON	709	2018-05-13
94	Qian, Ashley	Newmarket, ON	653	2019-08-20
95	Zhao, Catherine Xiquan	Toronto, ON	651	2019-08-20
96	Tang, Gwendolyn	Vancouver, BC	607	2019-08-05
97	Zeng, Chloe	Thornhill, ON	590	2019-08-11
98	Semianiuk, Catherine	Toronto, ON	582	2019-03-30
99	Johnson, Katelyn	Waterdown, ON	578	2019-08-27
100	Liu, Kailey	Scarborough, ON	578	2019-06-27

For >100 would be necessary to look in a raw database.

[Hugh Brodie]

No Quebec players...such as Maili-Jade Ouellet? She has a rating of 2292. It shows her with a CFC membership expiry date of 2014.09.01, and she has played in many CFC events since then. Why aren't FQE members recognized as CFC members in the database?

Also - where does Qiyu Zhou live? The CFC reads "Ottawa ON"; the FQE site reads "Outaouais" - meaning the Quebec side of the Ottawa River - in the Gatineau area.

[Steve Douglas]

No Quebec players...such as Maili-Jade Ouellet?

Her CFC membership is expired. She does show up on the list if you change the filter from "current members" (the default) to "all members". I'm assuming that most Quebec players don't have a current CFC membership given the relationship/agreement between the CFC and FQE.

Steve

[Hugh Brodie]

Her CFC membership is expired. She does show up on the list if you change the filter from "current members" (the default) to "all members". I'm assuming that most Quebec players don't have a current CFC membership given the relationship/agreement between the CFC and FQE.

Steve

I had probably edited my post after you posted your response.

[Fred McKim]

The CFC website provides through search option Top list including male/female selection

Top 100

1	Matras-Clement, Agnieszka	Leduc, AB	2351	2019-07-01
2	Zhou, Qiyu	Ottawa, ON	2291	2019-04-22
3	Agbabishvili, Lali	York, ON	2280	2019-04-02
4	Botez, Alexandra	Burnaby, BC	2280	2019-08-04
5	Burtasova, Anna	Toronto, ON	2253	2019-04-02
6	Golubeva, Oksana	Toronto, ON	2226	2019-04-02
7	Khoudgarian, Natalia	Toronto, ON	2221	2017-12-31
8	Gansvind, Valeria	Victoria, BC	2123	2019-04-22
9	Starr, Nava	Thornhill, ON	2123	2019-04-02
10	Syeda, Shabana	Edmonton, AB	2083	2019-05-12
11	Tian, Shi Yuan (Sherry)	Richmond, BC	2045	2019-08-05
12	Cui, Cynthia	Fredericton, NB	2023	2019-08-20
13	He, Emma	Toronto, ON	1990	2019-08-20
14	Gibbard, Alina Iuliana	Langley, BC	1988	2019-08-05
15	Konara, Harshani	Winnipeg, MB	1985	2019-07-30
16	Botez, Andrea	Burnaby, BC	1899	2019-07-09
17	Qiao, Cindy	North York, ON	1895	2019-09-02
18	Baylon, Glenda	Brampton, ON	1888	2019-06-09
19	Hua, Michelle	Waterdown, ON	1882	2019-09-22
20	Cao, Yingying (Lucy)	Edmonton, AB	1876	2019-08-30
21	Qu, Greta	Mississauga, ON	1816	2019-08-20
22	Peng, Sarah	Toronto, ON	1790	2019-08-20
23	Guo, Haotong Hazel	Markham, ON	1773	2019-09-02
24	Wang, Rachel Zihan	Longueuil, QC	1763	2019-09-08
25	Gu, Stephanie	Vancouver, BC	1718	2019-07-18
26	Gilani, Mysha	Toronto, ON	1701	2019-07-10
27	Ruchinskaya, Valerie	Woodbridge, ON	1591	2019-09-29
28	Guo, Yu Han (Veronica)	Vancouver, BC	1589	2019-08-05
29	Myrzaibraimova, Aibike	Winnipeg, MB	1581	2019-09-24
30	Qian, Jessica	Richmond, BC	1580	2019-07-10
31	Tao, Ellen	Windsor, ON	1578	2019-05-12
32	Guo, Anni	Markham, ON	1519	2019-09-29
33	D'Souza, Carina	Toronto, ON	1505	2019-09-02
34	Xie, Joanna (Ruo Jin)	Oakville, ON	1503	2019-08-20
35	Shen, Isamel	Markham, ON	1492	2019-08-20
36	Lin, Angela	Toronto, ON	1472	2019-08-25
37	Plostak, Larysa	Coquitlam, BC	1470	2019-08-05
38	Zhuang, Jinrong (Winnie)	Richmond Hill, ON	1431	2019-08-20
39	Liao, Yilin	Richmond Hill, ON	1419	2019-08-20
40	Zhong, April Yunwei	North York, ON	1417	2019-09-29
41	Singh, Anya	Markham, ON	1407	2019-09-02
42	Zhang, Joyce	Surrey, BC	1403	2019-08-20
43	Mok, Gillian	Vancouver, BC	1399	2019-08-05
44	Surya, Dania	Mississauga, ON	1392	2019-08-20
45	Wu, Ingrid	Toronto, ON	1348	2019-08-11
46	Anand, Nandhitha	Mississauga, ON	1314	2019-07-24
47	Rusonik, Alyssa	Thornhill, ON	1277	2019-01-13
48	Enkhtaivan, Michelle	Edmonton, AB	1258	2019-08-30
49	Moayyed, Dorsa	North York, ON	1250	2019-08-11
50	Chen, Helen	Calgary, AB	1248	2019-08-20
51	Chen, Rae	Mississauga, ON	1226	2019-07-27
52	Ksenych, Alexa	Etobicoke, ON	1220	2019-07-10
53	Dahale, Siddhi	North York, ON	1214	2019-08-20
54	Plotkin, Julia	Thornhill, ON	1211	2019-09-29
55	Wu, Vivian	Richmond Hill, ON	1165	2019-06-02
56	Yan, Yunhui	Toronto, ON	1146	2019-09-02
57	Chiriac, Nicole	Kitchener, ON	1144	2019-07-23
58	Wang, Sophia	Richmond Hill, ON	1142	2019-08-20
59	Chen, Alina Yuexi	Mississauga, ON	1123	2019-09-22
60	Li, Julia	Toronto, ON	1111	2019-06-22
61	Ling, Cici	Saint John, NB	1083	2019-03-31
62	Wu, Nora	Richmond Hill, ON	1083	2019-08-11
63	Rabinovich, Inna	Sidney, BC	1075	2019-04-22
64	Liu, Lily	Richmond Hill, ON	1063	2019-09-02
65	Wood, Monika	Hamilton, ON	1042	2019-05-03
66	Ran, Alice	Oakville, ON	1034	2019-08-20
67	Liao, Jody	Mississauga, ON	1008	2019-08-20
68	Boucher, Anne-Marie	Haileybury, ON	1005	2019-07-10
69	Yang, Amanda	Vancouver, BC	1005	2019-08-05
70	Tao, Kaitlyn	Windsor, ON	984	2019-09-24
71	Liu, Gloria	Mississauga, ON	973	2019-08-20
72	Gauthier, Annie	Earlton, ON	961	2019-07-10
73	Li, Mengbai	Burnaby, BC	956	2019-09-02
74	Morin, Sato	Oakville, ON	948	2019-10-01
75	Kaur, Eveleen	Windsor, ON	920	2019-08-11
76	Guan, Marie	Richmond Hill, ON	917	2019-08-20
77	Xu, Carol	Aurora, ON	903	2019-06-02
78	Shan, Lyvia	Coquitlam, BC	895	2019-09-02
79	deCosta, Dayna	Toronto, ON	892	2019-08-20
80	Sorgard, Abigail	Churchbridge, SK	870	2019-07-18
81	Souchko, Larissa	Etobicoke, ON	855	2019-09-23
82	Caron, Ashley	Guelph, ON	846	2019-04-14
83	Takeuchi, Nobuko	Oakville, ON	822	2019-10-01
84	Sreekumar, Gauri	Brampton, ON	819	2019-07-24
85	Eisenberg, Colette	Vancouver, BC	799	2019-04-22
86	Green, Hallie	Toronto, ON	799	2019-08-11
87	Liao, Jocelyn	Mississauga, ON	799	2019-08-20
88	Wang, Jessica	Oakville, ON	799	2019-05-30
89	Yang, Isabella	Mississauga, ON	791	2019-09-02
90	Guan, Isabelle	Markham, ON	784	2019-08-20
91	Inozemtseva, Milana	Queensville, ON	784	2019-08-20
92	Luo, Margaret	Aurora, ON	781	2019-06-02
93	Zhu, Victoria	Windsor, ON	709	2018-05-13
94	Qian, Ashley	Newmarket, ON	653	2019-08-20
95	Zhao, Catherine Xiquan	Toronto, ON	651	2019-08-20
96	Tang, Gwendolyn	Vancouver, BC	607	2019-08-05
97	Zeng, Chloe	Thornhill, ON	590	2019-08-11
98	Semianiuk, Catherine	Toronto, ON	582	2019-03-30
99	Johnson, Katelyn	Waterdown, ON	578	2019-08-27
100	Liu, Kailey	Scarborough, ON	578	2019-06-27

For >100 would be necessary to look in a raw database.

This rating list only includes players with established ratings. As was suggested already the default is current CFC members. A better query is to include All members having played a game in the past year or two years. All members is a bad term, it should have been all players.

[Grey Guo]

Gao, Lucy not in the list, where is she? may need check the database details

:-)

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Gao, Lucy not in the list, where is she? may need check the database details

:-)

Seems her membership lapsed on 2019-10-01. Per database she has F.