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That's right. $3.00 is a very reasonable price, isn't it?
:)
To me, too high or too low are both unreasonable. Too high, people don't come, too low people may come (some people will think that since it is cheap it is not worth much and will not come anyway!) but when you will try to charge them a fair price for what they get, they will back down. To be cheap is fine for Dollarama, but not for all types of goods and services.
With such prices you are killing a bit the market. We have a WGM coming in Montreal and I heard that people from Quebec City are working to setup the same kind of event and help pay her trip from Montreal to Quebec.
I suggest the creation of a Canadian Chess Masters Union to make sure there is known rules to be followed otherwise CCF and Canadian Chess will go bankrupcy.
To me, too high or too low are both unreasonable. Too high, people don't come, too low people may come (some people will think that since it is cheap it is not worth much and will not come anyway!) but when you will try to charge them a fair price for what they get, they will back down. To be cheap is fine for Dollarama, but not for all types of goods and services.
What is the optimal price for such an event ?
Yes, $3 is cheap and may lower the perceived value of the event. However, I will state the case again, this event is FREE. The Hamilton Club is sponsoring this event and paying Artiom a negotiated fee (not based on $3 /board). Garvin was simply warning our guests of the regular $3 club dues.
So what would most chess players be willing to pay? The Mississauga club hosted an event a few years ago with Kevin Spraggett. He did a lecture and then a simul. We sold 26 seats at $20 each. We may do it again.
So the Hamilton club decided to sponsor this event to promote chess and hopefully attract new members. We really didn't expect any complaints about the price (= FREE). No wonder we have trouble getting sponsors!
Opinions? Suggestions?
Last edited by Bob Gillanders; Tuesday, 8th September, 2009, 02:47 PM.
To me, too high or too low are both unreasonable. Too high, people don't come, too low people may come (some people will think that since it is cheap it is not worth much and will not come anyway!) but when you will try to charge them a fair price for what they get, they will back down. To be cheap is fine for Dollarama, but not for all types of goods and services.
To me, the price isn't as important as the person you are playing. If chess fans think IM Artiom Samsonkin will give them a tough game I think they would pay a variety of prices to play him.
Also, consider we are promoting chess in the Hamilton area and you need spectacles like this to get some attention. Since we had the money to pay Artiom regardless of entries it seemed worth doing something like this if it helps grow our club and local chess in the long run. (As long as chess keeps growing we will make money overall.)
We can't do stuff like this every day of course. But hopefully, we can pick and choose a few events each year that will give the local chess scene a shot in the arm..
Re: Would you like to play an International Master?
While keeping on the subject of costs for simuls:
Jean Hébert will be giving a simul in Montreal on Sat. Sept. 19, 1 pm.
Address: 9930 Parthenais (Ahuntsic Chess Club)
Cost: $10 (free for Club members).
Re: Would you like to play an International Master?
Just what this country needs another union. Let's pay all the masters the same fee for simuls, appearances, etc. , in fact let's just give everyone the same prize no matter how they do in a tournament. What about sick days? Will chess masters get to accumulate them and cash them in when they retire?
BUT, we are not talking about how much the master gets for the simul, but what is charged. If the Hamilton Chess Club can afford to pay Artiom a fee he is happy with, what does it matter what is charged? If the HCC members don't like where their dues are going should they form a union also?
So the Hamilton club decided to sponsor this event to promote chess and hopefully attract new members. We really didn't expect any complaints about the price (= FREE). No wonder we have trouble getting sponsors!
Opinions? Suggestions?
Can't you by yourself give a fair value to a simul given by an IM who is one of the top 10 players in Canada ? For example, to you is it worth at least a night at the movie (ticket price about 10$) ? Compare the opportunities to go see a movie (every day of the year at different theaters) and those to play an IM (maybe once a year or less). Isn't it worth somewhat more than 3$, which is about the price of the ice cream bar at the theatre ?
You ask for opinions and suggestions, but then as soon as you have finished reading them, you call them complaints and sponsor turn offs.
"We" don't really have trouble getting sponsors, "we" are simply not looking for them and marketing our product accordingly. 3$ simuls and "prize funds based on" tournaments do not need sponsors. Sponsors have no place into schemes like that.
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