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The thread "Can Biden Win?" is now officially superseded, since he has indeed won. Now the question is, can he govern?
I'd be interested to hear how many think there will be a civil war in the USA within the next 4 year, especially in light of Democrat control of the Senate after January 20th.
It looks like Democrats have won both senate seats in Georgia. So good bye to Moscow Mitch. Trump s/b gone in a couple of weeks. Biden needs to ignore the billionaires, do what is popular, slash defence spending, tax the super rich, raise minimum wage, neuter the oil industry. That would be a start. I am not saying it will happen, just what I hope will be the first step.
Hi Bob G: Though Biden will obviously be better than Trump, Trump has set the bar very low.
One must recognize that Joe is the poster boy for the Establishment, the body in the Dem's that gutted, or tried to gut, their very moderate left wing.
I expect nothing very radical except putting the old "good" things back into place.
The oil industry will definitely not be shut down. The left wing's Green Plan will be so watered down as to be of little help re negative climate change (With an almost agreed on "Tipping Point" being reached in only 10 years now: Jan. 1, 2031.)
Defence Spending will go UP.
The elite 1% will still control the Dem Establishment.
There are four tax options in the capitalist system:
1. greatly steepen the progressive income tax (Individual & Corporate), and close loopholes only beneficial to the 1%.
2. Eliminate Sales Tax (Disproportionately borne by the 99%);
3. An Inheritance Tax;
4. A Wealth Tax.
There are four tax options in the capitalist system:
1. greatly steepen the progressive income tax (Individual & Corporate), and close loopholes only beneficial to the 1%.
2. Eliminate Sales Tax (Disproportionately borne by the 99%);
3. An Inheritance Tax;
4. A Wealth Tax.
Bob
Why do some people like to target someone else's money, instead of finding ways to make their own, or finding ways to eliminate the corrupt systems which unfairly prevent them from making their own?
Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Wednesday, 6th January, 2021, 03:38 PM.
Hi Dilip: My Principle: Those who benefit most from the system (The wealthy) should carry a significant part of the costs of the system (By taxation of them, that recovers a significant part of the cost). The Commoner benefits somewhat as well, and so they also should bear some of the cost through paying general tax revenue.
Hi Dilip: My Principle: Those who benefit most from the system (The wealthy) should carry a significant part of the costs of the system (By taxation of them, that recovers a significant part of the cost). The Commoner benefits somewhat as well, and so they also should bear some of the cost through paying general tax revenue.
Bob A
If a few people 'benefit more from the system' than others can, either there is something wrong with the system, which needs to be rectified quickly, or the system itself is neutral towards all, but some are just rewarded as per what they do... in the latter case, the one who is rewarded does not owe anything to anyone else, though he or she may choose to make huge charitable donations...
If a few people 'benefit more from the system' than others can, either there is something wrong with the system, which needs to be rectified quickly, or the system itself is neutral towards all, but some are just rewarded as per what they do... in the latter case, the one who is rewarded does not owe anything to anyone else, though he or she may choose to make huge charitable donations...
Interesting that words like 'legally' (e.g. the one who is legally rewarded) don't appear in your post. Was that intentional?
p.s. "the one who is rewarded does not owe anything to anyone else" - baloney!! At absolute minimum they owe for their share of the common assets and other resources - same as any other citizen.
Last edited by Peter McKillop; Wednesday, 6th January, 2021, 05:39 PM.
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
At absolute minimum they owe for their share of the common assets and other resources - same as any other citizen.
I agree, Peter. Its just that if everyone equally owes to a common system (and indirect taxation in general), it is different from one group owing to the other, as Bob Armstrong suggested...
'Legally' is a term which can be misused...Everything 'legal' in a communist country is not necessarily desirable... much of it is outright unethical...
This thread has taken an interesting philosophical direction to do with taxation... but I see no one has commented on the U.S. civil war question I asked.
And yet today, there are ARMED PRO-TRUMP ACTIVISTS INSIDE THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES, and a person has been shot, and police have drawn their weapons.
This is just the beginning. Donald Trump Jr. and his brother Eric are inciting the mobs to a frenzy. The fact that the mob actually made it into the chambers of Congress will embolden them in the future, and it is this future we need to pay mind to now. Especially with the Senate now in control of the Democrats.
I am predicting comprehensive civil war in the United States before the next U.S. Presidential election in 2024.
Oh, and by the way, there's a mutation of the Covid virus in South Africa that is proving resistant to antibody drugs and is in a stage of commiuity spread.. Get ready for a 2021 that is worse than 2020.
A lot pf the future south of the border depends on what the U.S. Justice system does with Donald Trump. He may try to pardon himself before leaving office in two weeks, but that would only cover federal crimes. The New York State justice people are working on several cases involving him and his companies, pardons won't matter there.
Lots of video coming out showing DC law enforcement actually ALLOWING AND ENCOURAGING the mob to enter the Capitol building. Also, Trump in his morning rally exorted the mob to walk the mile up Pennsylvania Ave. to the Congress and "take back our country".
This goes very high up in the food chain.... months of investigations are coming into just this day's events.
Meanwhile, the division continues.... members of Congress and Senators still objecting to the electoral college ballot counting.... still believing Trump's lies....
This is not going away. The mob backed down for today, but that doesn't mean much.
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