GM Nigel Short crushed by 18 year old WGM Nurgyul Salimova

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  • GM Nigel Short crushed by 18 year old WGM Nurgyul Salimova

    Vergani Cup, Rd 8, 2022

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah0Nio4Z0zI

    Poor old Nige no longer 'hard-wired' to play chess at the higher levels, ha!

  • #2
    “While it is difficult, or perhaps impossible, to define exactly which combination of attributes is necessary to become a strong chess player, the existence of fundamentally different cerebral structures between the sexes is, in my view, the ultimate irreducible obstacle to equality in this specific field,” Now eat my boy ,,eat,,

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    • #3
      Interesting read from a few days ago on Chessable blog...

      https://www.chessable.com/blog/gender-gap-chess/

      Great to see GM Short lumped in with other misogynists such as GM Fischer, ha!

      How this clown got to be FIDE VP is totally understandable!!!

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      • #4
        This clown knows a thing or two about chess.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Marc Andre Beaudry View Post
          This clown knows a thing or two about chess.
          but is clearly misogynistic and that should be a problem.
          ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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          • #6
            I might be misogynistic myself but women haven't demonstrated true equality in chess as of now.

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            • #7
              Hope Nigel can grin and bear it. Seriously give the poor man a chance to fully recover from the effects of Covid.

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              • #8
                It should also be noted that Nigel is now 56 y.o.. His Standard rating of 2633 is not too shabby.

                In these times, the best players are much younger: Magnus Carlsen: 31 y.o. (30 November 1990); Alireza Firouzja: 18 y.o.(born 18 June 2003).

                Bob A

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                  It should also be noted that Nigel is now 56 y.o.. His Standard rating of 2633 is not too shabby.

                  In these times, the best players are much younger: Magnus Carlsen: 31 y.o. (30 November 1990); Alireza Firouzja: 18 y.o.(born 18 June 2003).

                  Bob A
                  He's as strong as Canada's Bareev, but Anand tops the list of his contemporaries. And seniors Huebner, Gulko, Dorfman and Timman are still playing. And Spraggett is still in the top 10 seniors.

                  1. Anand, Viswanathan IND 2751 1969
                  2. Ivanchuk, Vasyl UKR 2678 1969
                  3. Gelfand, Boris ISR 2669 1968
                  4. Kozul, Zdenko CRO 2639 1966
                  5. Short, Nigel D ENG 2633 1965
                  6. Bareev, Evgeny CAN 2631 1966
                  7. Dreev, Aleksey RUS 2623 1969
                  8. Smirin, Ilia ISR 2614 1968
                  9. Illescas Cordoba, Miguel ESP 2613 1965
                  10. Dautov, Rustem GER 2596 1965
                  11. Sokolov, Ivan NED 2588 1968
                  12. Gurevich, Mikhail BEL 2579 1959
                  13. Christiansen, Larry USA 2577 1956 close to 65
                  14. Krasenkow, Michal POL 2576 1963
                  15. Huebner, Robert 2574 1948 top 65
                  16. Agrest, Evgenij 2568 1966
                  17. Georgiev, Kiril 2564 1965
                  18. Graf, Alexander GER 2562 1962
                  19. Jussupow, Artur GER 2559 1960
                  20. Agdestein, Simen NOR 2557 1967
                  21. Kaidanov, Gregory USA 2556
                  22. Novikov, Igor USA 2551 1962
                  23. Gonzalez Zamora, Juan Carlos MEX 2544 1968
                  24. Gulko, Boris USA 2542 1947 2nd 65
                  25. Nikolic, Predrag BIH 2541 1960
                  26. Huzman, Alexander ISR 2539 1962
                  27. Dorfman, Iossif FRA 2538 1953 3rd 65
                  28. Rozentalis, Eduardas LTU 2537 1963
                  29. Ibragimov, Ildar RUS 2533 1967
                  30. Timman, Jan H NED 2533 1951 4th 65

                  66. Spraggett, Kevin CAN 2487 1954 9th 65

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Erik Malmsten View Post

                    He's as strong as Canada's Bareev, but Anand tops the list of his contemporaries. And seniors Huebner, Gulko, Dorfman and Timman are still playing. And Spraggett is still in the top 10 seniors.

                    1. Anand, Viswanathan IND 2751 1969
                    2. Ivanchuk, Vasyl UKR 2678 1969
                    3. Gelfand, Boris ISR 2669 1968
                    4. Kozul, Zdenko CRO 2639 1966
                    5. Short, Nigel D ENG 2633 1965
                    6. Bareev, Evgeny CAN 2631 1966
                    7. Dreev, Aleksey RUS 2623 1969
                    8. Smirin, Ilia ISR 2614 1968
                    9. Illescas Cordoba, Miguel ESP 2613 1965
                    10. Dautov, Rustem GER 2596 1965
                    11. Sokolov, Ivan NED 2588 1968
                    12. Gurevich, Mikhail BEL 2579 1959
                    13. Christiansen, Larry USA 2577 1956 close to 65
                    14. Krasenkow, Michal POL 2576 1963
                    15. Huebner, Robert 2574 1948 top 65
                    16. Agrest, Evgenij 2568 1966
                    17. Georgiev, Kiril 2564 1965
                    18. Graf, Alexander GER 2562 1962
                    19. Jussupow, Artur GER 2559 1960
                    20. Agdestein, Simen NOR 2557 1967
                    21. Kaidanov, Gregory USA 2556
                    22. Novikov, Igor USA 2551 1962
                    23. Gonzalez Zamora, Juan Carlos MEX 2544 1968
                    24. Gulko, Boris USA 2542 1947 2nd 65
                    25. Nikolic, Predrag BIH 2541 1960
                    26. Huzman, Alexander ISR 2539 1962
                    27. Dorfman, Iossif FRA 2538 1953 3rd 65
                    28. Rozentalis, Eduardas LTU 2537 1963
                    29. Ibragimov, Ildar RUS 2533 1967
                    30. Timman, Jan H NED 2533 1951 4th 65

                    66. Spraggett, Kevin CAN 2487 1954 9th 65
                    This list is a bit dated as Shirov (1972) and Adams (1971) are now #2 and #3 in 50+ ---- while Christiansen is #1 in the 65+ group.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Erik Malmsten View Post

                      He's as strong as Canada's Bareev, but Anand tops the list of his contemporaries. And seniors Huebner, Gulko, Dorfman and Timman are still playing. And Spraggett is still in the top 10 seniors.

                      1. Anand, Viswanathan IND 2751 1969
                      ...
                      ...
                      ...
                      66. Spraggett, Kevin CAN 2487 1954 9th 65
                      typo: I think you meant Spraggett is in the top 100 seniors?
                      ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                      • #12
                        Interesting how Bob and Hans are diverting the issue. Yes, he was severely sick just before the tournament an yes he is aging. But do not miss the whole picture. Unless you did this intentionally ,in the same breath(sentence) it should be mentioned the misogyny of the FIDE viceprez.

                        I think women are men are one. Patriarchy has damaged part of this one. As when examining any dynamic ,changing system : static(photographic) accounts are useless. We have to look at the rates of change. The results are pretty good wherever we eliminate vestiges of patriarchy.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post

                          typo: I think you meant Spraggett is in the top 100 seniors?
                          Yes, players over 65. I searched to make a list of active players born until 1957, including Larry Christiansen, Spraggett is 11th. In the list born before 1970 (NOT 50+), he was 66th.

                          1. Christiansen, Larry USA 2577 1956
                          2. Huebner, Robert 2574 1948
                          3. Gulko, Boris USA 2542 1947
                          4. Dorfman, Iossif FRA 2538 1953
                          5. Timman, Jan H NED 2533 1951
                          6. Pinter, Jozsef HUN 2528 1953
                          7. Ribli, Zoltan HUN 2521 1951
                          8. Kurajica, Bojan CRO 2519 1947
                          9. Beliavsky, Alexander G SLO 2518 1953
                          10. Speelman, Jon S ENG 2504 1956
                          11. Spraggett, Kevin CAN 2487 1954
                          Last edited by Erik Malmsten; Monday, 10th January, 2022, 05:23 PM. Reason: added b year

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fred McKim View Post

                            This list is a bit dated as Shirov (1972) and Adams (1971) are now #2 and #3 in 50+ ---- while Christiansen is #1 in the 65+ group.
                            Is a list of Seniors published somewhere? Adams turned 50 on Nov 17, 2021 but Shirov won't be 50 until July 4, 2022. You're right about Christensen, he didn't show up on my search list as I only went up to 1956.

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                            • #15
                              I just went to the FIDE site and used the advanced rating search. Anyone turning 65 or 50 this year are considered eligible for those age categories all year.

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