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GM Nigel Short crushed by 18 year old WGM Nurgyul Salimova
“While it is difficult, or perhaps impossible, to define exactly which combination of attributes is necessary to become a strong chess player, the existence of fundamentally different cerebral structures between the sexes is, in my view, the ultimate irreducible obstacle to equality in this specific field,” Now eat my boy ,,eat,,
It should also be noted that Nigel is now 56 y.o.. His Standard rating of 2633 is not too shabby.
In these times, the best players are much younger: Magnus Carlsen: 31 y.o. (30 November 1990); Alireza Firouzja: 18 y.o.(born 18 June 2003).
Bob A
He's as strong as Canada's Bareev, but Anand tops the list of his contemporaries. And seniors Huebner, Gulko, Dorfman and Timman are still playing. And Spraggett is still in the top 10 seniors.
1. Anand, Viswanathan IND 2751 1969
2. Ivanchuk, Vasyl UKR 2678 1969
3. Gelfand, Boris ISR 2669 1968
4. Kozul, Zdenko CRO 2639 1966
5. Short, Nigel D ENG 2633 1965
6. Bareev, Evgeny CAN 2631 1966
7. Dreev, Aleksey RUS 2623 1969
8. Smirin, Ilia ISR 2614 1968
9. Illescas Cordoba, Miguel ESP 2613 1965
10. Dautov, Rustem GER 2596 1965
11. Sokolov, Ivan NED 2588 1968
12. Gurevich, Mikhail BEL 2579 1959
13. Christiansen, Larry USA 2577 1956 close to 65
14. Krasenkow, Michal POL 2576 1963
15. Huebner, Robert 2574 1948 top 65
16. Agrest, Evgenij 2568 1966
17. Georgiev, Kiril 2564 1965
18. Graf, Alexander GER 2562 1962
19. Jussupow, Artur GER 2559 1960
20. Agdestein, Simen NOR 2557 1967
21. Kaidanov, Gregory USA 2556
22. Novikov, Igor USA 2551 1962
23. Gonzalez Zamora, Juan Carlos MEX 2544 1968
24. Gulko, Boris USA 2542 1947 2nd 65
25. Nikolic, Predrag BIH 2541 1960
26. Huzman, Alexander ISR 2539 1962
27. Dorfman, Iossif FRA 2538 1953 3rd 65
28. Rozentalis, Eduardas LTU 2537 1963
29. Ibragimov, Ildar RUS 2533 1967
30. Timman, Jan H NED 2533 1951 4th 65
He's as strong as Canada's Bareev, but Anand tops the list of his contemporaries. And seniors Huebner, Gulko, Dorfman and Timman are still playing. And Spraggett is still in the top 10 seniors.
1. Anand, Viswanathan IND 2751 1969
2. Ivanchuk, Vasyl UKR 2678 1969
3. Gelfand, Boris ISR 2669 1968
4. Kozul, Zdenko CRO 2639 1966
5. Short, Nigel D ENG 2633 1965
6. Bareev, Evgeny CAN 2631 1966
7. Dreev, Aleksey RUS 2623 1969
8. Smirin, Ilia ISR 2614 1968
9. Illescas Cordoba, Miguel ESP 2613 1965
10. Dautov, Rustem GER 2596 1965
11. Sokolov, Ivan NED 2588 1968
12. Gurevich, Mikhail BEL 2579 1959
13. Christiansen, Larry USA 2577 1956 close to 65
14. Krasenkow, Michal POL 2576 1963
15. Huebner, Robert 2574 1948 top 65
16. Agrest, Evgenij 2568 1966
17. Georgiev, Kiril 2564 1965
18. Graf, Alexander GER 2562 1962
19. Jussupow, Artur GER 2559 1960
20. Agdestein, Simen NOR 2557 1967
21. Kaidanov, Gregory USA 2556
22. Novikov, Igor USA 2551 1962
23. Gonzalez Zamora, Juan Carlos MEX 2544 1968
24. Gulko, Boris USA 2542 1947 2nd 65
25. Nikolic, Predrag BIH 2541 1960
26. Huzman, Alexander ISR 2539 1962
27. Dorfman, Iossif FRA 2538 1953 3rd 65
28. Rozentalis, Eduardas LTU 2537 1963
29. Ibragimov, Ildar RUS 2533 1967
30. Timman, Jan H NED 2533 1951 4th 65
66. Spraggett, Kevin CAN 2487 1954 9th 65
This list is a bit dated as Shirov (1972) and Adams (1971) are now #2 and #3 in 50+ ---- while Christiansen is #1 in the 65+ group.
He's as strong as Canada's Bareev, but Anand tops the list of his contemporaries. And seniors Huebner, Gulko, Dorfman and Timman are still playing. And Spraggett is still in the top 10 seniors.
1. Anand, Viswanathan IND 2751 1969
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66. Spraggett, Kevin CAN 2487 1954 9th 65
typo: I think you meant Spraggett is in the top 100 seniors?
Interesting how Bob and Hans are diverting the issue. Yes, he was severely sick just before the tournament an yes he is aging. But do not miss the whole picture. Unless you did this intentionally ,in the same breath(sentence) it should be mentioned the misogyny of the FIDE viceprez.
I think women are men are one. Patriarchy has damaged part of this one. As when examining any dynamic ,changing system : static(photographic) accounts are useless. We have to look at the rates of change. The results are pretty good wherever we eliminate vestiges of patriarchy.
typo: I think you meant Spraggett is in the top 100 seniors?
Yes, players over 65. I searched to make a list of active players born until 1957, including Larry Christiansen, Spraggett is 11th. In the list born before 1970 (NOT 50+), he was 66th.
1. Christiansen, Larry USA 2577 1956
2. Huebner, Robert 2574 1948
3. Gulko, Boris USA 2542 1947
4. Dorfman, Iossif FRA 2538 1953
5. Timman, Jan H NED 2533 1951
6. Pinter, Jozsef HUN 2528 1953
7. Ribli, Zoltan HUN 2521 1951
8. Kurajica, Bojan CRO 2519 1947
9. Beliavsky, Alexander G SLO 2518 1953
10. Speelman, Jon S ENG 2504 1956
11. Spraggett, Kevin CAN 2487 1954
Last edited by Erik Malmsten; Monday, 10th January, 2022, 05:23 PM.
Reason: added b year
This list is a bit dated as Shirov (1972) and Adams (1971) are now #2 and #3 in 50+ ---- while Christiansen is #1 in the 65+ group.
Is a list of Seniors published somewhere? Adams turned 50 on Nov 17, 2021 but Shirov won't be 50 until July 4, 2022. You're right about Christensen, he didn't show up on my search list as I only went up to 1956.
I just went to the FIDE site and used the advanced rating search. Anyone turning 65 or 50 this year are considered eligible for those age categories all year.
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