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"Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020. -
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"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De QuinceyComment
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Whatever it may be. Seriously???I hope that the truth on this matter comes out, whatever it may be.
Magnus Carlsen
Still more with the dramatic obfuscation, ha!
Enuff already!
You lost ... get over it!!!Comment
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Ben Finegold ...
https://twitter.com/ben_finegold/sta...C--f6H39krAAAAProbably @MagnusCarlsen should retire and get on some FIDE commission on cheating. Awaiting the next player Magnus will cancel because they may be cheating. I never thought I’d see the day when the World Champion was such a cry-baby. Dizziness due to success.Comment
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Of course, Carlsen's statement is not sufficient. He should go away and tend to his mental health.Comment
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfPzUgzrOcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjtbXxA8Fcc
This is pretty sufficient evidence Hans cheated.
Probability don't lie. Hans games over the past 3 years are being compared with accuracy of prime Fischer games and Feller (who cheated years back) games.
I was convinced after his ridiculous interview after the Firouzja game in St Louis. Now Carlsen's is saying he wasn't even concentrating during their game?
That's just too much.
Last edited by Joshua Guo; Tuesday, 27th September, 2022, 10:13 AM.Comment
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"Probability don't lie" ?? Probability NOTEQUAL CertaintyOriginally posted by Joshua Guo View Post...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.Comment
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Watch the whole video, when the probability is 99.98%, that's pretty certain.Originally posted by Kerry Liles View PostComment
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Looks like I will not cancel my chess.com membership after all.
Carlsen and chess.com knew about Nieman before St Louis tournament.
I call on FIDE to revoke Hans Niemans' GM title and forbid him from playing any FIDE rated tournament.Comment
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Isn't anyone else really uncomfortable with the disparities between the Yosha/Hikaru videos and this:
https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-han...regan-analyzesComment
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From that article in chessbase:
"The verdict
Dr. Regan analyzed all of Hans Niemann's games over the last two years, including online games, such as played on Chess.com and their events, and his conclusion is there is no reason whatsoever to suspect him of cheating. The wide range of results in a bell curve, with some good and some bad, is actually a sign of a healthy distribution of results. Many of the so-called points of suspicion are in fact quite normal and suspicion is really the result of faulty analysis by zealous amateurs. Even online his play has been quite devoid of anything unusual."
As Yosha mentions Ken Regan's work we have a problem with the conclusion/verdict reaching from the statistical data.
With so many Nieman OTB games in 2020 and 2021 reaching 100% correlation to engine moves, statistically you can say not enough data.
My conclusion is that there is cheating.
Time to revise how cheating statistics are viewed. This is a huge job and will need a team with more resources than Kenneth Regan has presently access to . I think he should be part of that new team.Last edited by Mario Moran-Venegas; Tuesday, 27th September, 2022, 01:24 PM.Comment
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A solution to the future of OTB tournaments is an RF shielded room such as NORAD has had North of Canada for years.Comment
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You will have to read it yourself (or watch video in it's entirety), there are many details to explain. People are debating Yosha's video on reddit too https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comme..._games_played/Originally posted by Aris Marghetis View Post
Essentially I think the takeaways are:
1) Statistically, there are different ways to measure accuracy and/or engine-move correlation.
2) Hans didn't cheat every game or every move, of course at his level he doesn't need to. It's about checking how much variance (compared to other GMs) there are over a sizable sample where Hans is suspected of cheating.
3) Non-statistically, there are a number of games that just don't past the "smell test". And only strong players should judge this. For example, his Ng6-g4-h2 computer-like maneuver against Mistra. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2123031
The crazy thing is - not only Black chooses to trap his N on h2 with no clear attacking follow-up, if Black were to play this weird idea one move later (for example a normal move like 0-0-0 and then Nfg4), it doesn't work. Because 16.... 0-0-0 17.Qe2 Nfg4 18 d4 wins.
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For normal criminal investigations the police look for both motive and opportunity. If Neimann cheated his motive is obvious, but what about opportunity? In other words, how the hell does he do it given the anti-cheating protocols in place?
I am beginning to suspect that Magnus threw the game in Saint Louis in order to be able to start this whole mess. If Magnus had crushed Niemann in the game, how much credence could we give to the accusations of cheating? Would Magnus or could Magnus have even made them in the first place?
And even if Niemann turns out to be guilty as charged, the way Magnus has handled this is pathetic.Last edited by Brad Thomson; Tuesday, 27th September, 2022, 02:38 PM.Comment
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