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  • #46
    Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

    Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
    Utter stuff and nonsense of course.
    Nope. I sold shares I held in B.C. companies for that very reason.


    Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
    No, it's because an incompetent Federal government doesn't understand finance and is doing all the exact right things to make the disaster even worse than it is, for instance keeping the external exchange rate on the Canadian dollar far too high.
    What do you suggest they do to stop the demand for Canadian dollars? Lower interest rates more? What's the point in negotiating higher wages if the government devalues the dollar to nullify the higher wages? Do you want our dollar to be like the Venezulan Bolivar?

    Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
    This could be a text book example of a simple non sequiter. That last sentence just shows you don't comprehend how parliamentary democracy works. Hardly surprising in a person with such an apparent unquestioning faith in big business, I suppose.
    Sure I understand it. The opposition bet the Conservatives couldn't get us through this economic mess. They guessed wrong. Likely because they didn't have an alternative. The liberals had a chance to form a coalition government but decided against it. The first rule of politics is to gain power as quickly as possible so you can implement your own policies.

    As an example, the Conservatives once got the most seats in Ontario. They had enough for a minority. Bob Rae threw his support to the Liberals and the conservative turned the government over to them.

    Are you sure you understand how parliamentary democracy works?
    Gary Ruben
    CC - IA and SIM

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    • #47
      Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

      Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
      What do you suggest they do to stop the demand for Canadian dollars?
      Stop the measures they are currently using to keep it artificially high.

      Lower interest rates more?
      Hardly possible currently.

      What's the point in negotiating higher wages if the government devalues the dollar to nullify the higher wages?
      Lowering the external exchange rate makes Canadian goods more attractive to those outside our borders and increases the amount of stuff they buy from us. This makes more jobs and keeps current pay rates pretty well level if not carried to extremes.

      Do you want our dollar to be like the Venezulan Bolivar?
      Why should that happen? Is not what we make valuable to others? I am not suggesting that we artificially lower exchange rates, but rather allow exchange rates to fall to their proper levels instead of artificially pumping them up as we are doing now.

      The rest of your rant only shows that you don't actually have any real understanding of of what happens in parliament, or what happens in the rest of the country.

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      • #48
        Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

        Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
        Stop the measures they are currently using to keep it artificially high.
        Like what? You seem to be deliberately side stepping the question.

        Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
        Lowering the external exchange rate makes Canadian goods more attractive to those outside our borders and increases the amount of stuff they buy from us. This makes more jobs and keeps current pay rates pretty well level if not carried to extremes.
        Our goods are already attractive to those outside our border. Oil, Natural gas, gold, metals. Many have already left or outsourced in the manufacturing sector. We import. Are you suggesting the government subsidize our exports to make them more attractive? The American dollar dropped against our dollar because they screwed up.

        Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
        Why should that happen? Is not what we make valuable to others? I am not suggesting that we artificially lower exchange rates, but rather allow exchange rates to fall to their proper levels instead of artificially pumping them up as we are doing now.
        Nonsense. You couldn't even tell me how they should lower the dollar much less how they are artificially pumping it up.

        Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
        The rest of your rant only shows that you don't actually have any real understanding of of what happens in parliament, or what happens in the rest of the country.
        You're giving us uninformed drivel. What's happening in Parliament is a minority government is pretty much working like a majority. The opposition is afraid to defeat them for fear of losing their seats in an election. The liberals and ndp's greatest handicap is their leader.
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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        • #49
          Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

          Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
          Utter stuff and nonsense of course.
          Perhaps you could tell that to a few friends of mine...

          finning - moved to Alberta due to high taxes/ anti business environment under the NDP reign... Friends dad worked there, and he was told exactly why they were moving...

          Waverider - used to be one of salmon arms largest employers, left BC due to high taxes / anti business environment... One of my best friends lost his job and the owner told him exactly why they were moving.

          Acc Pac - Friend of mine is a Sr. Project leader and has been there since the early 80's... said that they are outsourcing so much work to India that he was lucky to keep his own job... reason? they could pay the Indian workers 1/10 the wages and they didn't have to deal with BC labour laws.

          I could keep going, but I'm sure you get the point.

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          • #50
            Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

            Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
            The liberals and ndp's greatest handicap is their leader.
            lol pretty much bang on for the liberals, don't they have anyone who isn't a lame duck?

            The federal NDP has never had policies that were attractive the majority of Canadians no matter who their leader is.

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            • #51
              Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

              Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
              Like what? You seem to be deliberately side stepping the question.
              You seem to me to be deliberately missing the obvious.

              I am not going to reply to the rest of your message since we appear to have left the thread topic. I will leave you with a link and will try to only reply to on topic posts from you.

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              • #52
                Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                What's happening in Parliament is a minority government is pretty much working like a majority.
                Do you mean to say Joe Clark is back? :D
                Only the rushing is heard...
                Onward flies the bird.

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                • #53
                  Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                  Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
                  You seem to me to be deliberately missing the obvious.

                  I am not going to reply to the rest of your message since we appear to have left the thread topic. I will leave you with a link and will try to only reply to on topic posts from you.
                  Nice list of nations in that laughable report.

                  Actually, the main topic on this site is chess. Do you play any chess or do you like that pretty much anyone can fit into the chess community?
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                  • #54
                    Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                    Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post
                    Do you mean to say Joe Clark is back? :D
                    Clark misjudged the resolve of Trudeau to govern. I see no such resolve in the current opposition. Do you?

                    Another example might go back even further. Diefenbaker was once handed a minority government. He claimed the opposition wouldn't allow him to govern, went back to the voters asking for a majority, and he got it.

                    Diefenbaker won a minority in 1957, called a snap election the next year, and won the big majority.

                    You might have read about it but I remember it.
                    Gary Ruben
                    CC - IA and SIM

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                    • #55
                      Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                      Looks to be a backlash in Ontario.

                      http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/...-backlash?bn=1

                      I expect a 'green backlash' here in BC as well with the Carbon tax. Many people I know who are 'natural' liberal voters are very upset. The problem is that we have no one else to vote for. After the 90's anyone with a memory won't vote NPD and The Greens are even more on the fringe... we have no choice here.

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                      • #56
                        Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                        Nice list of nations in that laughable report.
                        Not above a little shooting the messenger yourself I see.

                        Do you know the word for someone who does what he complains about in others?

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                        • #57
                          Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                          Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                          Actually, the main topic on this site is chess.
                          Do you understand the difference between the site and a thread on the site? Which word did I use?

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                          • #58
                            Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                            Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
                            Not above a little shooting the messenger yourself I see.

                            Do you know the word for someone who does what he complains about in others?
                            Actually, I'm glad you posted that. People can see the kind of policies the left thinks is appropriate for Canada.
                            Gary Ruben
                            CC - IA and SIM

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                            • #59
                              Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                              Originally posted by Jason Lohner View Post
                              Looks to be a backlash in Ontario.

                              http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/...-backlash?bn=1

                              I expect a 'green backlash' here in BC as well with the Carbon tax. Many people I know who are 'natural' liberal voters are very upset. The problem is that we have no one else to vote for. After the 90's anyone with a memory won't vote NPD and The Greens are even more on the fringe... we have no choice here.
                              I subscribe to the Toronto Star so they deliver it every day.

                              The liberals here will probably lose the next election. Lots of spending scandals, tax increases and so forth. This is only one in a long string of obscene spending excesses. I guess a lot of elected liberals will lose their riding. That might be a reason some are quitting now to try for municipal politics.

                              The conservatives in this province are no prize either which is why they lost the last election. They proposed an unpopular funding measure for the school system.

                              About the only thing a voter can do is keep changing government until one comes along which gets it right.
                              Gary Ruben
                              CC - IA and SIM

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                              • #60
                                Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                                Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                                Actually, I'm glad you posted that. People can see the kind of policies the left thinks is appropriate for Canada.
                                Still sill shooting at that darned messenger, I see. Trouble is you are firing blanks.

                                Reasonable people know that "the left" is no more monolithic than "the right". So picking on one allegedly "left wing" web site and generalizing to everyone else who disagrees with you is rather laughable to them, I imagine.

                                But you've now shown yourself as someone who thinks that it's OK for him to do what he disparages in others. Have you figured out what the word for that is yet Gary?

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