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Now we do, in this thread, have evidence that you trust Fox news, which for someone who is presumably educated is virtually the equivalent of believing PRAVDA or TRUD back in the 1960's. I saw through them then, and I see through their equivalents today.
Harvey Oberfield, long time Canadian journalist and hardly a raging left winger disects Fox quite nicely in his blog today. Since he marshals his facts well and writes better than I can I will pass you over to him if you are interested in learning something.
I see no science or substance in your rebuttal. Simply a hack job on the messenger. If that's the best you can do, I guess it's 30 years of Global Cooling coming up.
You are, appearantly, more familiar with those publication you mentioned than am I. I had to google Trud to find it was a labour newspaper. Did you have to read them regularly to know you shouldn't believe them?
Paul, more on the glaciers. Are you still writing on this Climate Change subject or have you decided to withdraw? I've you've decided to resign, it's OK with me.
This is a debate thread. You are an imbicile with a low I.Q. I suspect you are the American from the state of Mass. where the Kennedy senate seat went to a Republican.
I'd say your left wing style of persuasion is an example of the kind of attack ads used by the Dems to try to win that Senate seat. The public didn't buy it and I don't buy it either.
Mr Ruben: And this is a chess site, not a Gary Ruben debating society! You have been posting on here for at least five years with your nonsense, riling up people. Your suspicions couldn't be further from the truth, so this independent observer is calling your bluff finally. Over and out.
Your suspicions couldn't be further from the truth, so this independent observer is calling your bluff finally. Over and out.
Being around to watch me for 5 years without posting any chess material speaks volumes. Three mindless posts from you in all that time and all to me. Don't you feel that other fellow is good enough to defend himself and maybe he doesn't need you? Protecting him is an insult or don't you understand that. I makes it appear he can't defend himself in the discussion.
For the record I will defend Gary as not in any way being a troll that I can see. He did, not, for instance, start the thread, as you would expect a troll to do. He is just, in my opinion, ill educated about science and over reliant on dubious sources, such as Fox news. But I don't see how that makes him a troll.
Here is a more balanced link, relatively free of the oh so obvious spin from the Fox news site.
It basically says the same thing in a different way. They admit the scare based on speculations and then try to sugar coat it with the horrors of what they claim will be the distant future.
Clinton made her $100 Billion dollar committment at Copenhagen. An obscene amount of money in view of the world economies in general. The American people will have to decide if they want to support such give aways in view of their own economic problems, or change the government in the next election to one which is more respectful of their hard earned tax dollars.
I figure if Canada has a federal election in the next 9 months the Conservates will come very close to a majority and might even get the majority. The Liberals, for whom I often vote, are not telling me what I want to hear. When Ignatieff speaks I'm not hearing the passion and committment I'm listening for. All I'm hearing is tax and spend and I'm tuning him out.
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Clinton made her $100 Billion dollar committment at Copenhagen. An obscene amount of money
It's a commitment for ten years in the future, 2020. The current USA GDP in 2008 was just over 14 TRILLION dollars, and at a 2% rate of growth it will be 17.75 TRILLION by 2020, when the commitment kicks in. A hundred billion dollars amounts to 0.56% of the 2020 GDP. Most of this will be spent in the USA where it will contribute to stimulating the economy.
The 2010 "defense" budget in the USA is already at $680 billion per year, nearly 7 times Clinton's promise for 2020, and if amortized at the same rate of 2% will be over 800 billion by 2020, or more than 8 times the 100 billion promised for climate change abatement. And of course the US defence budget is already mostly just waste.
So, a promise of 12.6% of the probable defense budget, ten years in the future.
Oh, and 100 billion is also around one tenth of the money already spent to bail out the big banks, the total cost of which may exceed $4 trillion according to a story by CNN published here. A hundred billion is 2.5% of four trillion.
I figure if Canada has a federal election in the next 9 months the Conservates will come very close to a majority and might even get the majority.
Currently according to EKOS, they are at 31.5 percent, six tenths of a percent ahead of the Liberals at 30.9 percent. That would likely result in a Liberal minority if it held up until election day, because the Liberal vote is generally more efficiently distributed.
That says nothing about what an election result would be a couple of years from now, of course, but it certainly isn't evidence for a Conservative majority any time soon.
But then a week is a long time in politics and so one should, if one is concerned about one's predictive reputation, be careful about predicting the results a couple of years from now.
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