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    I don't see what a foul mouthed analysis by a comedian has to do with the issue. I don't know who writes his jokes but the way he laughed while delivering them it appeared it might be the first time he saw them. New to him.

    I'm as much an expert on your CFC presidency as you are on climate change. You see, I read Kevin's blog and he tells me. Hell, he tells the world and it's funnier than that clip you posted.

    In the end the voters will decide and from that clip it would appear those voters are turning against the movement.
    Gary Ruben
    CC - IA and SIM

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      That clip also lacked truth. It is not every scientist in the world who subscribes to the whole global warming cabal's orthodoxy and dogma. They will do their best to discredit and black ball anyone who opposes their nonsense. They got caught in many lies and though their special investigations of the climategate emails found no wrong doing the rest of the world is not nearly so gullible. There are no pots of gold anymore at the end of the global warming rainbow (well maybe in Ontario until the government Liberals are handed their well deserved walking papers). This whole thing was just another UN power and money grab. It failed. Get over it.

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        The Feb. 6th temperature forecast for Whale Cove.

        Whale Cove, Canada
        Forecast Details:
        Windy. Snow flurries and a few snow showers throughout the day. Dangerous wind chills as low as -55F. High -21F. Winds NNW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of snow 30%.
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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          From this guy Tom who posted a comment on WikiLeaks oil post that I made today on Facebook:

          "Two things I have learned to NOT debate is Peak Oil and Climate Change. You will never convince a denier that their belief is incorrect no matter how much data you present to them that they are wrong. This is because theirs is a belief based view of both situations and not a fact based one.

          One thing I have noticed is that in most cases if you discuss it with them enough, is you'll find that the main reasons they are really denying both facts are:

          1). They don't want their taxes to go up.
          2). They don't want their lifestyles to change.

          So it is going to be interesting to see how tortured their logic will become as they continue to try and rationalize away decreasing oil production, and the resulting sky rocketing prices, and climate disasters.

          Maybe they'll realize something is up, when some good old boys are standing knee deep in sea water at a gas station that used to be a half mile from the ocean in Charleston SC. And they are pumping $15/gallon gas into their pickups, on a balmy 125 degree day in late May.

          Or will they continue to think both are still liberal conspiracies? Stay tuned..."

          My guess is that they will still think both are liberal conspiracies...

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            Doesn't want to debate. Says it was a learned response.

            Of course he doesn't want to debate. From the remainder of his piece he would sooner simply give his worthless OPINIONS and wait for his fellow groupies to blow sunshine up his butt. That's what I call real global warming.

            In the meantime here's the weather in Whale Cove. It's in Nanuvat, you know, and it's reality.

            Whale Cove, Canada
            SEVERE WEATHER ALERT
            Forecast Details:
            Mostly cloudy and windy. Snow flurries and a few snow showers. Cold. Extreme wind chills may approach -65F. High around -30F. Winds NNW at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of snow 40%
            Gary Ruben
            CC - IA and SIM

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              Poor Gary; he has lost his marbles. The only value in any of his posts is humor; and he absolutely must have the last word.

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                Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                Doesn't want to debate. Says it was a learned response.

                Of course he doesn't want to debate. From the remainder of his piece he would sooner simply give his worthless OPINIONS and wait for his fellow groupies to blow sunshine up his butt. That's what I call real global warming.

                In the meantime here's the weather in Whale Cove. It's in Nanuvat, you know, and it's reality.

                Whale Cove, Canada
                SEVERE WEATHER ALERT
                Forecast Details:
                Mostly cloudy and windy. Snow flurries and a few snow showers. Cold. Extreme wind chills may approach -65F. High around -30F. Winds NNW at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of snow 40%
                That's awfully cold. Of course the AGW crowd will say its cold because of global warming. LOL.

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                  Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                  That's awfully cold. Of course the AGW crowd will say its cold because of global warming. LOL.
                  Or, they will claim it feels warmer because it's a dry cold. :)

                  They sure don't show pictures of open water in those temperatures.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                    Paul, I don't know if you've seen this article. I found it interesting.

                    Click Here...

                    Now, on the topic of solar, you might recall I mentioned a company which is into that area along with their other business divisions. It seems the solar part of the business is money losing and drawing down on the profits of the company. They are having problems in France, or so I understand, and subsidies after the next Ontario election are not a sure thing.

                    According to the information to shareholders, they are in the process of either selling the solar division or they will spin it off as a separate company to their existing shareholders.
                    Gary Ruben
                    CC - IA and SIM

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                      Gary, thanks for the link to the article on extreme weather; I will need to investigate the source papers that it is based on as it pertains directly to some of my work. Thanks again.

                      Regarding solar, if you have a south facing roof make sure you laden it with panels before the microFIT program reduces the payments...

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                        Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
                        Gary, thanks for the link to the article on extreme weather; I will need to investigate the source papers that it is based on as it pertains directly to some of my work. Thanks again.

                        Regarding solar, if you have a south facing roof make sure you laden it with panels before the microFIT program reduces the payments...
                        No problem. In case you haven't heard Ontario has put the wind on hold and also solar. Won't let them tie into the grid, I think it is.

                        Here's the solar article:

                        http://www.thestar.com/business/arti...ts-put-on-hold

                        Here's the wind article.

                        http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/...nd-power-plans

                        It's starting to look like a new reality. The winds of change are a'blowing in the wind. :)
                        Gary Ruben
                        CC - IA and SIM

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                          Gary, here is a link in todays paper that talks about a number of studies indicating that the frequency of weather extremes is on a sharp rise (which is my view)...
                          http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Su...236/story.html

                          The wind moratorium is for offshore wind only and is temporary; while the solar only applies to a few isolated areas that already have a large excess of electricity supply, and nowhere close by to send the excess to.

                          Wind and solar are both alive, growing strongly, and not going away...

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                            Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
                            Gary, here is a link in todays paper that talks about a number of studies indicating that the frequency of weather extremes is on a sharp rise (which is my view)...

                            The wind moratorium is for offshore wind only and is temporary; while the solar only applies to a few isolated areas that already have a large excess of electricity supply, and nowhere close by to send the excess to.

                            Wind and solar are both alive, growing strongly, and not going away...
                            I guess there are a lot of theories out there. Sounds like the one in the article needs more study. Of course, droughts have been known to happen. Like in the 1930's I think it was. Heat, dirt blowing in the wind, etc. Grass hasn't been growing for the entire life of the earth. I forget how long ago it's thought grass appeared. We can assume many dust storms before the grass bound the dirt together.

                            People worrying about the environment have to have some concerns about the growth in population. The higher the population the more infrastructure and pollutants from the food production. It's not one of my worries but I'd assume you've given it some thought.

                            We'll have to see what happens with wind and solar in this province. If France and Germany can afford it then they should go for it. With the hundreds of nuclear reactors on the drawing board and being built I can't understand why they would want the expensive alternative energies.

                            "Temporary" doesn't have a time frame. Also, those people spent a lot of money on that solar to be told they can't tie in.

                            The next provincial election will be interesting. We'll have to see what the Conservatives offer. The Liberals run on their record.

                            Have you seen the ads the cons are using against the libs? Personal stuff against the leader. The ads are nasty and not something I particularly like to watch. However, the libs aren't replying and I can't help but think that if the leader won't stand up for himself what chance would I have for him to stand up for me. Maybe others see it differently.

                            One afterthought. We sell a lot of coal to other nations. I understand environmentalists don't like coal. Whose more at fault for the pollution from that coal? We who are selling the coal or the nations who are buying and using the coal? After all, if they didn't have coal they couldn't burn it. We supply both metalurgical coal and thermal coal.
                            Gary Ruben
                            CC - IA and SIM

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                              Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                              Have you seen the ads the cons are using against the libs? Personal stuff against the leader. The ads are nasty and not something I particularly like to watch. However, the libs aren't replying and I can't help but think that if the leader won't stand up for himself what chance would I have for him to stand up for me. Maybe others see it differently.
                              The ones that I saw have quotes from Iggy's past which were not the brightest things to say if you wanted to come back to Canada and run for prime minister one day. Most were done on television or in fairly well known magazines or newspapers. Its not like he can disavow them in any way without looking pretty stupid when the clips are played on tv. What can he say? "That was my evil twin" probably won't cut it. Iggy's only chance is if the Conservatives win another minority and he can combine with the other parties in a coalition like Dion tried to do. That is probably the plan. A majority for the conservative will be the end of most of the parties financing from the taxpayer other than tax deductions for party donations.

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                                Wind and solar are both alive, growing strongly, and not going away...
                                Until the next Ontario election or maybe when the class action suit for people living next door to windmills hits the manufacturers. Or when the free trade complaints about the provisions of Ontario's energy act hit the free trade tribunals. Obviously we can't afford to pay twenty to thirty times the going rate for the somewhat useless electricity that they generate which we then have to turn around and pay the Americans and Quebec to take off our hands.

                                Apparently the only hope for the people subjected to the noise of windmills to avoid well known reactions of insomnia, irritability and other debilitating side effects is to move away. Perhaps they need to build a few of those eyesores near the apartment buildings in Toronto instead of the hinterlands of Essex County. It would save on transmission losses. We could see how long the program would last then. Another article in the paper talked about the problems that windmills have with dealing with snow and ice from winters in the maritimes. Global warming had better get here quickly or the windmills won't work in Canadian winters.

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