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  • #16
    Re: Candidate for CFC President

    Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
    Are you saying that the CFC FIDE rep travels at his own expenses ?
    I think he reported that (after Greece), and he asked to establish a fund for travels (500CAD). However, the last travel was partly (or fully) paid by FIDE as he was working in one of the committees (Qualification or Rules ?). (I think all this were written here at chesstalks)

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    • #17
      Re: Candidate for CFC President

      Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
      Are you saying that the CFC FIDE rep travels at his own expenses ? I did not know that Hal was that well off. I knew I had still much to learn... ;)
      I am not certain about that. Perhaps it is buried in one of the GLs somewhere...

      Perhaps what Egidijus is referring to is the recent stint where Hal was an arbiter - he may have been paid by FIDE to do that job (including expenses?) - I really don't know.

      I just cannot imagine the CFC paying for the FIDE rep to travel to FIDE meetings... but it might be the case.
      ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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      • #18
        Re: Candidate for CFC President

        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
        I notice the year over year membership numbers are down in the latest disclosure (you'll find it on the CFC web site). What will you do to increase the membership? We're really talking about promoting chess and bringing the membership over the 2,000 mark as a start.

        How do you intend to make the organization more appealing to the entire nation rather than mainly the "golden horseshoe"?

        Looking at your purposed "team", why should anyone think there will be changes?
        Good question Gary. The naked truth is that I have no magic bullet that will generate new members and revenues quickly. Until and unless some generous sponsor with deep pockets, or the next Bobby Fischer emerges from our ranks, we are left with only one option, hard work! But certainly that doesn't mean we can't enjoy it. We are blessed with many hard working volunteers across the country. What we need is an effective umbrella organization to compliment local efforts.

        The CFC is certainly better off today compared to the near death experience of 2006-7. The wounds still cut deep, but they are healing. I also note with alarm the drop in membership this year. I will consider this our primary measure of success or failure.

        As a minimum target, I would like to see 2,000 members by May 1st, 2011.

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        • #19
          Re: Candidate for CFC President

          Perhaps the question of whether CFC FIDE Rep expenses are reimbursed is purposefully left ambiguous in public documents such as motions.

          As part of its committment to FIDE, CFC would obviously pay those expenses if it could afford to. So tax donation receipts can be issued for non-reimbursed FIDE expenses (although it might be argued that they are a "benefit" to the donor, if he is the FIDE Rep. I've been to FIDE meetings; I'd vote for it not being a "benefit"). Were there a motion or other statement reflecting the reality (if it is a reality) that the CFC does not reimburse FIDE Rep expenses, then the tax people could come back more strongly in an attempt to disallow the tax receipts.

          Sometimes the absence of something is just as telling as the finding of it. Just the wild guess of an ex-officer of the CFC. I haven't had anything to do with such things since 1984. Even in 1984, this scenario would simply have been surmise on my part.

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          • #20
            Re: Candidate for CFC President

            Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
            What we need is an effective umbrella organization to compliment local efforts.
            Surely you mean "complement". The "compliment" part we already know that you are going to perform admirably. :)

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            • #21
              A Suggestion

              Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
              Good question Gary. The naked truth is that I have no magic bullet that will generate new members and revenues quickly. Until and unless some generous sponsor with deep pockets, or the next Bobby Fischer emerges from our ranks, we are left with only one option, hard work! But certainly that doesn't mean we can't enjoy it. We are blessed with many hard working volunteers across the country. What we need is an effective umbrella organization to compliment local efforts.

              The CFC is certainly better off today compared to the near death experience of 2006-7. The wounds still cut deep, but they are healing. I also note with alarm the drop in membership this year. I will consider this our primary measure of success or failure.

              As a minimum target, I would like to see 2,000 members by May 1st, 2011.
              Hi Bob,

              Perhaps the CFC should broaden its definition of "Member". A CFC member in the past has always been defined (not on paper but in practice) as the serious tournament player...but that is the tip of the chess iceberg...I will let your mind work with that :)

              Larry

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              • #22
                Re: Candidate for CFC President

                Originally posted by David Ottosen View Post
                Saying 4/7 is a bit unfair as he can hardly control who the past president is. It's really 3/6.
                Actually as came up two years ago, the AGM can actually elect *any* past president to be the serving Past President, it just defaults to the most recent one.
                Christopher Mallon
                FIDE Arbiter

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                • #23
                  Re: Candidate for CFC President

                  Good luck Bob.

                  One anecdote - I had 30 minutes before a business meeting in Concord a couple of years ago and ventured into a local restaurant. They also had a pool table and I noticed on the wall a great marketing poster for a pool players association. I went to the site - http://www.poolplayers.ca/ and realized this was a great grass roots idea to attract the typical casual pool player and I wondered if it could be converted for chess. You might notice that they have organized all public restaurants, bars, ... whomever has a pool table into events and now boast 260,000 members, which no doubt helps in advertising, government assistance, etc.

                  Larry is right - the ticket is to chase the casual player base. The question is the best method and resources to do so.

                  Brian

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                  • #24
                    Re: Candidate for CFC President

                    Originally posted by Brian Hartman View Post
                    Larry is right - the ticket is to chase the casual player base. The question is the best method and resources to do so.
                    Starting with a FREE and frequent e-magazine (not a 95 page one...) would be a good start. But what do I know...

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                    • #25
                      Re: Candidate for CFC President

                      I will be supporting this slate and look forward to working with Bob as President and with Mark out here in BC.

                      As for the question of discretionary funds, I recall from Maurice Smith's budget (voted on but results not yet known) that there was a small surplus.
                      Aside from funding what I have referred to as the 5 core activities, should there be any resources remaining, a high priority for me would be to move the E.D. position back to a full time CFC employee.

                      Aside from that, all expenditures should benefit the membership in general, not specific events, locations or regions. A bad example would be to subsidize an event to bring in a big name foreign GM. A good example would be to reduce membership costs for new players as an incentive to join the CFC.
                      Paul Leblanc
                      Treasurer Chess Foundation of Canada

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                      • #26
                        Re: Candidate for CFC President

                        Originally posted by Paul Leblanc View Post
                        I will be supporting this slate and look forward to working with Bob as President and with Mark out here in BC.
                        What's there to do? The membership dropped and there is no action plan to increase it.

                        This is like the Borg. I am three of 62 and I vote for the collective.

                        Since you propose a full time ED position, what do you propose the person do to justify the extra expenditure? A legitimate question. Provide some specifics and not general stuff like increase the membership and pray for world peace.
                        Gary Ruben
                        CC - IA and SIM

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                        • #27
                          Re: Candidate for CFC President

                          Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                          I will forego the typical election platform manifesto, in favour of a dynamic online Q&A format.
                          Really! So we are entering the era of cyber presidents, cyber chess, cyber AGM's . Where are the personalities and the faces going?

                          Scarry if you ask me.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Candidate for CFC President

                            Less scary then the current CFC where decisions are made in the shadows led by the invisible man Eric Van Dusen. We were told years ago to believe in the CFC, that effective management was occurring on the secret bulletin board and maze of secretive emails amongst insiders. Eventually it became clear very little was occurring at all and more recently Eric couldn't get access to the internet ( one of the lamest things I have ever heard in my life ).

                            I understand when decent volunteers like Hal Bond discuss his frustrations hearing the complaints, but unfortunately the complaints have been well earned. Every organization has the right to operate as they wish, but if you are going to take the secretive arrogant route of management ( ie "we" know best ), you better damn well be effective. Or stop taxing the players. Its that simple. Hopefully the new guys get it or blow a hole in it start new chess organizations with more appropriate attitude.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Candidate for CFC President

                              Originally posted by Brian Hartman View Post
                              noticed on the wall a great marketing poster
                              Bob G. was talking about it (posters for casual chess players in public places) several months ago.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Candidate for CFC President

                                Originally posted by Anthony Cheron View Post
                                cyber AGM's . Where are the personalities and the faces going?
                                Lets guess how many Governors will to the AGM this year
                                15-20

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