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  • #31
    Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    Do you remember why the Big M was traded? Last I heard he's a Senator.
    It's all in Wikipedia. One interpretation of what they wrote is that, ultimately, he had to leave because he was playing for the Leafs. He was sensitive.

    As a kid I was a huge Red Wings fan, and therefore hated the Leafs in their cup years. Well, there were other reasons to hate the Leafs, but that suffices. By 1968 I wasn't watching much hockey on Saturday night, but it was something of a frisson to hear Mahovlich's efforts as part of a Wing or Canadien (my second favourite team, then) offensive. Mon Canadien comprend des Mahovlich. Don't forget that The Big M won two cups with C=H on his chest. And later his little bro', Peter.

    Just to save making another post, the other reasons were:
    1. it seemed like all the televised games were Leafs games;
    2. announcer Foster Hewitt's voice was as annoying as Howard Cosell's;
    3. if they got a one-goal lead, Leafs'd just shut down the game into a defensive shell for the next 40 minutes. More depressing than a Maroczy Bind.
    Last edited by Jonathan Berry; Thursday, 7th April, 2011, 10:47 PM.

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    • #32
      Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

      Ben,

      The real question is, how are the Devils going to win the Stanley Cup this year now that they managed to finish out of the top 8 in the "meaningless" regular season?

      That was a rhetorical question... don't bother with your retaliations about my weight since you cannot come back with anything remotely intelligent. I won't be back to read it ;-)

      Jordan
      No matter how big and bad you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone, you answer it.

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      • #33
        Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

        The one and only hockey thread. Yes, this is chesstalk, but
        I'm sure that if it were 1967 we'd be hearing about George and
        Johnny and Tim and Red and Frank ... After a season (or is it
        some dozens of seasons) of mostly abstinence, I've been
        watching the playoffs.

        The local newspaper announced that the city is going to build
        temporary bleachers at Harbourfront Plaza so that more can
        watch the finals games on the big screen. Yes, the buzz is
        building here on the left coast in a decidedly un-laid-back
        way, intensified by the novelty that the local boys are the
        favourites. Cue the obnoxious fans.

        Chicago is the keyword. Before that series, Henrik said that
        as far as he was concerned, the Black Hawks were the champions
        and Vancouver the underdogs, despite finishing a distant first.
        In the first two games, Vancouver went full bore, "total hockey"
        if you like. Yet, in the end, it was a series that could have
        gone either way. The teams were equal, somebody had to win.
        Had the butterfly fallen on the other side of the knife edge,
        it would have been a different, more familiar and plaintive
        buzz.

        NHL players are, of course, superbly conditioned athletes, but
        IMHO, the Canucks are a notch above. They play closer to the
        max than the other teams do, and that's why they have had so many
        injuries (though their most famous injury was a simple accident).
        Providently, they developed and traded for further talent,
        because they had seen the injury scenario so many times before.
        If they lose a key player in the finals, it won't be time for
        the melting puddle of despond, they'll have somebody to
        adequately fill the skates. Not a star necessarily, but
        somebody who will pass the puck to the guys in the same
        colour uniform. And always take the body.

        So, Vancouver has depth; they're fast, big, they pass rather
        than carry the puck, they clear the zone (unlike Canucks teams
        of memory, mired down passively for minutes at a time in their
        own end), they've got goaltending, they take the body, they're
        almost brutal, almost dirty. OK, they're not the Broadway Bullies
        (Broadway (9th Avenue) is the archetypal Vancouver street; Broad
        Street Bullies was the nickname of some Philadelphia Flyers teams
        of the 1970s, loaded with thugs; even some of their skill players
        were chippy). The closest Vancouver has to a thug, Raffi Torres,
        is also a skill player. His 2 goals and 2 assists in the playoffs
        so far, is, if anything, a bit on the unlucky side.

        Against Chicago, it looked like the Canucks didn't know how to
        put the puck in the net. Sure, they could crowd the goalmouth
        and bang away at it, but flair was missing. So, whatever the
        Black Hawks did defensively, that was the right thing. Whatever
        San Jose did, was the wrong thing. Beautiful three-way passing
        goal between Burrows and the Sedins? How did all three of them
        get open?

        Boston has shown its ability to adapt, really savvy
        coaching staff. You might say "they're professionals, of
        course they can adapt!" If I may interject an observation
        from another sport, remember the Expos? The greatest
        championship team that never quite was. I remember
        listening to the Expos on the radio, two situations they
        could never learn how to handle. Numero uno, they would
        load the bases with nobody out. That gives a lot of
        chances to score: a fly ball, a nubber, a walk, a bunt ...
        of course a hit or a home run. But I wish I had a million
        dollars for every time they'd load the bases with nobody
        out and then ... not score, not even a single run. Numero
        dos, they had a talented starter who didn't have a lot of
        stamina. Four scoreless innings, then in the 5th inning,
        everything would bog down. The Expos manager never took
        him out until several runs had been scored. Probably some
        preconception about needing their starter to become the
        pitcher of record. The pitcher? Don Stanhouse. He became
        famous as "Stan the Man Unusual", relieving two years later
        for the Baltimore Orioles in the World Series. He was a
        premier reliever (for Baltimore), but his notoriety rested
        more on being so slow that batters would step out of the
        box, causing the sedate game of baseball to become
        krikkitian; galaxies could die between pitches. That of
        course was a Bad Thing, but it did annoy sportscaster
        Howard Cosell, so what's not to like? Expos weren't yet
        contenders when they had Stanhouse, but still they could
        have used him more effectively. And kept him. The failure
        to score with the bases loaded and nobody out continued
        through the Expos' years of near glory.

        Anyway, Boston Bruins can adapt. They have superlative
        goaltending and, of course, that huge Chara guy. Late in
        the Tampa Bay series, they stationed Chara in front of the
        opposing net as a screen. It worked. Remembering how well
        a similar strategy with Byfughlien (did I put in enough
        silent consonants?) by the 2009-2010 Black Hawks worked
        against Luongo and the Canucks, this might also work. Of
        course, it is risky to have only one defenceman back,
        especially against a team as speedy as the Canucks are.
        Doubtless, it's a strategy that awaits its moment. One
        might be power plays. During the playoffs, Boston has
        developed great discipline to refrain from penalties, a
        discipline they'll have to continue to nurture against
        a team so comfortable playing with, and so deadly playing
        against, four skaters.

        Vancouver could lay back and wait until the games are
        closer together (only one off day between) before going for
        total physicality. But I don't think they will. They are
        the favourites; the high-speed, high-contact game is what
        brought them here; they'd never forgive themselves if they
        played some cagey strategy and then went on to lose.
        Boston has the luxury, nay the necessity, to adapt.
        Both teams are well-rested, which should favour Boston.
        Vancouver has a couple of key players coming back from
        (what else?) injury. I look forward to a gritty series. It
        won't be Morphy, it'll be more like the complex close
        combat chess brought to us by Grischuk and Gelfand in games
        2 and 6 of their recent match.

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        • #34
          Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

          Originally posted by Jonathan Berry View Post
          So, Ben, would you say that Kovalchuk and the Devils peaked too soon or too late?
          their first half was just too bad. 27 points out after 41 games. the record, at any point in the season, is being 12 points out and going on to make it in. the devils cut it to 6, and that included 2 losses against ottawa interrupting an otherwise perfect 2+ weeks. if only...

          nice analysis of the canucks series. i didn't see your post at the time. i think the canucks could have survived without any one of a number of their players, but hamhuis may have been the toughest. not only is he their best all-around D, but he turns bieksa from a mook into a stud. pretty hilarious that boom boom got 4.3 for 5 after his inflated worth was so clearly demonstrated in scf games 3-7

          as someone who grew up in vancouver and has always cheered for the canucks to come out of the west, even though i've been a devils fan since the 90s, it was weird watching them lose the cup on home ice and feeling kinda good about. i call this the luongo effect. his comments after game 5 exemplify why nearly everyone who wasn't a canucks fan was cheering for the bruins

          after game 7 i went downtown. the buses weren't travelling there so i had to run across the granville st bridge. a bunch of whites were acting like idiots on the streets. i guess an unfavourable finish for a team one doesn't follow is as good a reason as any to effectuate the chance to take a facebook profile pic in front of a burning car

          not interested in the nonsense, i went to the vancity (this was before the boycott, faithful readers) to watch malick's BADLANDS. it was amazing

          http://www.howmanydaysuntilhockey.com

          i hate summer...
          everytime it hurts, it hurts just like the first (and then you cry till there's no more tears)

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          • #35
            Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

            How did this thread get 264,000+ views? Wow!
            "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
            "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
            "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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            • #36
              Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

              Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
              How did this thread get 264,000+ views? Wow!
              Amazing. All I could think of was that it got a hockey-friendly index in some search engine(s). Or there's a spider searching for Kovy.

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              • #37
                Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                great game by kovalchuk the other night. 3 points including the gwg :D

                it's a shame you didn't get him in your pool this year, gary!
                everytime it hurts, it hurts just like the first (and then you cry till there's no more tears)

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                • #38
                  Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                  Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
                  great game by kovalchuk the other night. 3 points including the gwg :D

                  it's a shame you didn't get him in your pool this year, gary!
                  I *did* take him in my pool (thanks to you Ben...) and I enjoyed the points he grabbed for me the other night and look forward to a lot more! I have referred to him as "Koval-choke" in the past (out of frustration) but when he is on his game he is as good as anyone. I just want him to stay on his game... small requirement, no?
                  ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                    Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
                    great game by kovalchuk the other night. 3 points including the gwg :D

                    it's a shame you didn't get him in your pool this year, gary!
                    Yeah. I don't have him this year. I have Crosby on one of my teams. Maybe he'll be back before the All Star Break. At least I can carry him as my DL player.
                    Gary Ruben
                    CC - IA and SIM

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                    • #40
                      Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                      Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
                      great game by kovalchuk the other night. 3 points including the gwg :D

                      it's a shame you didn't get him in your pool this year, gary!
                      After reading this I made an offer to the guy who has Kovalchuk. The guy needs a goalie. I offered Theodore and Johan Franzen. He wanted either Lundqvist or Fleury plus Franzen so it didn't get done.

                      I have a pretty good team anyhow and can play 2 of the 3 goalies.
                      Gary Ruben
                      CC - IA and SIM

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                      • #41
                        Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                        wow! 3-straight 3-point games for kovalchuk. once again, kovalchuk naysayers of yore, where are you?!


                        king kovalchuk with his jesters elias and the ever-youthful-looking zajac

                        even with injuries to the devils' three top centres, kovalchuk is now 14th in league scoring and 8th in points per game with 50 points in 47 games. expect a top-5 finish from this talented, broad-shouldered gentleman

                        gary, did you ever manage to acquire kovy in your pool?
                        everytime it hurts, it hurts just like the first (and then you cry till there's no more tears)

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                        • #42
                          Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                          Originally posted by ben daswani View Post

                          gary, did you ever manage to acquire kovy in your pool?
                          No. I'm still playing Franzen instead. He has 42 points. And Fleury, whom he also wanted, is playing pretty steady goal.

                          My team's in 3rd and his in second out of 12 so we'll likely fight it out for first. The team in first has played more games in the positions and will likely run out of games with a month or so to go in the season.
                          Gary Ruben
                          CC - IA and SIM

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                          • #43
                            Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                            an exciting kovalchuk gif from this season to get everyone psyched for a long devils playoff run



                            KOVALCHUK IS LORD
                            everytime it hurts, it hurts just like the first (and then you cry till there's no more tears)

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                            • #44
                              Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                              He had a decent season after last season. No doubt about it.
                              Gary Ruben
                              CC - IA and SIM

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                              • #45
                                Re: Where will Kovalchuk end up?!

                                It's Snow White versus the Seven Dwarves. That's Philadelphia versus seven stingy (Stingy ?) teams that tend to go for the low scores. Give me a D.

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