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Paul, just letting things run their course is not an option. Eventually, enough humans will realize climate change is real and action will be taken. It is only a matter of time. But the longer we wait, the tougher it will be.
But I do like your alien Greenland scenario. That is really thinking outside the box.
Glad you like the Greenland mothership concept. I've been liking your recent posts on this thread, your writing has improved quite a bit. Also, even though you believe in AGW, you are willing to accept that others are skeptics, whereas most others posting here are being quite extreme and simply not tolerating anyone who has another viewpoint.
For me, the skeptical part has more to do with whether we can do anything to "save humanity" from itself at all. You aren't going to be able to tell China, let alone the U.S., to stop burning coal and oil. As the famous saying goes, "You guys are going to keep doing that until someone loses an eye". The world will keep doing what it's doing right up until its last dying breath.
I am also somewhat skeptical of the science and the data behind the AGW claims. It's like having a drug company proclaim that they have a cure for cancer, and you find out that they haven't actually tested it on people, they are just basing their claim on a computer simulation of how they expect the drug to act inside the human body, and the simulation is based on their current set of knowledge about the human body. Well, the human body is IMMENSELY complicated, and no such simulation could ever possibly be accurate because there's TOO MUCH WE DON'T YET KNOW. The unintended side effects, sometimes fatal, of even today's modern drugs is a perfect example of how little we understand.
So it is, I believe, with global climate. Simply too complicated to ever really KNOW FOR SURE. For Beckwith to claim that all the evidence is in, and anyone doubting is an idiot, is only evidence that he has abandoned our reality and entered a world of his own making.
But even though we can't ever know for sure, we can observe and measure trends. And there is a definite trend to global warming, that I am not skeptical of. Man probably does have something to do with it. But as to how long it will last and how severe it will get... well, yes, it might melt the ice caps and all that other stuff, but we DON'T REALLY KNOW. There is a non-zero chance that it could all shift to global cooling starting next year.
The complications of everything around us, including even the quantum world of the stuff everything is made of, are such that we aren't even close to being Gods. We have to continue to admit that we MIGHT BE WRONG about such complicated matters as the human body and the planet and the universe.
Gary, the earthquake effect on the planet was negligible. What is your point? Nothing alleged about climate change, to bad you were not in Ottawa where I would give you a comp. to attend my climatology course.
What you are calling climate change is also based on measurement increases which are negligible. Assuming they are correct.
It was a hot day here yesterday. In today's newspaper they reminded us the record high temperature in this area was not broken and was set Aug. 25, 1948. I remember hot summers back then. Week after week but it wasn't in this area. It was on the prairies.
I think I'll pass on the climatology course. I'd sooner work in a cow pasture but that's a personal preference.
I'm going to ramble a bit and take in a few of the post from today rather than individual replies.
If you don't mind, what degrees do you hold and in what disciplines. There are some weird credit courses around, like underwater basket weaving.
The U.S. is very big in burning oil and coal. Much bigger than Canada. Why not lobby them and picket the coal mines in the Appalachians? They are ripping the tops off mountains to get at the coal. A lot of the pollution we get here comes from the U.S. Not that I think the miners will be sympathetic to environmentalists.
Regarding the redo on your picket sign, it's not far from what is happening. Many waste treatment plants use the "merde" to make gas which they use along with natural gas from the utility. The BTU count is not as high as they get from the utility but high enough to use it. I guess it's also cheaper per million BTU's than what they buy. So when you talk about the fossil fuel industry it should be noted every time you take a dump you may very will be contributing to the burning of fossil fuels if you're using the public sewage system.
As far as I know a heat wave in these parts is 3 days in a row of heat above 32C degrees. The average daily high at this time of the year in this area is around 27C degrees.
you have to realize hot weather and cold weather is not considered to be inclimate weather. However, if there's lightning around I wouldn't want to be working on a pipeline.
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Vlad, this is priceless drivel. I am copying and pasting your comments above and in some earlier posts to some critical web sites for analysis. I will leave your name off so that you are not subjected to ridicule outside of the Chesstalk community. Unless you want to stand up and defend your comments in the larger community. Let me know. Great stuff, you are clearly a master of invective, or perhaps even a GM...
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The astronauts about who you speak are a bunch of old timers, sitting in their meetings being brainwashed by one astronaut who is being paid huge sums of money from Exxon and other oil guys to speak to the public. None of these guys are climatologists. This is a pure BS PR snow job.
You said that "This is about the science needing to be proved". Absolutely. The science is "proved" in the minds of 98% of the people who spend their lives via careers in studying the issue. Just not in the feeble disillusioned non-technical mind of Mr. Kitich, the financial and tax guy who thinks that things must be true since they come out of his facial orifice.
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Awesome photoshop work Mr Bonham. I think that I will use your version of my poster in my next presentation, thanks.
Climate change is proceeding at rates much faster than anyone would have imagined. It is a given that humanity severely reduce our emissions. However the rapidity of the change now requires regional geoengineering in the Arctic to keep the sea ice intact throughout the melt season. Failing to do this commits our planet to an unrecognizably warmer climate and global chaos. The geoengineering would only buy us more time, unfortunately the planet is committed to massive warming, nothing we can do will stop this. After all, we are just a planet filled with dumb-ass humans.
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Ceramic engineer. If I was a ceramic engineer I would be able to construct an enormous toilet bowl and but people like yourself and Vlad inside. Interesting how you can propagate misinformation so easily, it must be like second nature to you.
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Mr Kitich, your first sentence indicates that you have no idea what science is about. Science cannot prove anything. Never in the history of Chesstalk has such a basic error been made. Stick to finance.
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Mr. Kitich. A mere preschool toddler could demolish your argument in which you are lambasting Bob G. for being "willing to believe what you are told". Your fantasies of being a renaissance man who is expert in every subject are just fantasies. Here is how the world works, kid. Different people specialize in different areas and others "are willing to believe what they are told" when these specialists comment on their field of specialty. For example my specialty is physics, engineering, and climatology and I am working hard to know more in these technical areas than anyone else. You know f### all about these areas. However you do have your own specialty in which I would approach you for information that I required relating to it.
OK, your specialty is finance and Gary claims to be a guru on stocks. So tell me what personal investments/stocks/financial plans would allow me to make bags of money in the event that I am absolutely correct with my projections of climate change. I know what not to invest in, but what would be good to invest in.
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I agree that you know nothing about climate change Zeljko, and that is very obvious to all of the readers on this board (excepting Vlad and Gary, perhaps). Hopefully you know something about the subjects that you spend your time studying.
I spend my time on climate change, thus I know a great deal about it. I concede that you know more about your specialty than mine. I would not expect you to have the balls to reciprocate this comment about me and my specialty.
Socrates would roll over in his grave or spit at your feet if he was to see how you pull his quotes out of the air and try to use them completely out of context. You think it makes you look scholarly however Chesstalk readers can see right through your charade.
I am well past the point of wasting time by attempting to enlighten yourself and other laymen like Vlad in the science of climate change. No point. Lost cause.
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Bob, the more accurate term for Vlad and others is climate change denier. Overwhelming evidence exists regarding climate change, so denial is the proper term. Skeptic is too generous a term. It is good to be skeptical of things since that means you are thinking for yourself and basing views by weighing the evidence. When the evidence is overwhelming most reasonable people accept the evidence, those that do not are no longer skeptics but deniers.
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Some help with definitions Mr Kitich. A "heat wave" is a period of time that is hotter than NORMAL. Of course Greece has a climate warmer than ours, it is a Mediterranean climate. It has been much hotter than "normal" recently, thus the expression.
I am always pleased to help you improve your command of the English language.
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Group think. Zeljko has learned well from his mentor Vlad, hopefully he is still salvageable and has not dropped too far down into the make-believe land of fantasy that his mentor inhabits. My views on climate change come from reading thousands of peer reviewed papers and switching my career to study and address the problem.
Does gravity exist Mr Kitich? Do you subscribe to the group-think regarding gravity. Perhaps you do but you certainly do not call it group-think. Climate change is exactly the same.
Ceramic engineering? Once again you say whatever pops into your facsimile of a brain. Where is that from? Another lie is 1987, I got degrees on other years but nothing in 1987. Thanks for the embellishment, and there is no such thing as cool aid. Literacy is not one of your stronger points.
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Vlad is either having a time-out from reality or just having a Forest Gump moment.
The people that have made big bucks are the climate deniers since they are working at the beck and call of the fossil fuel industry. Meanwhile, the little guys who mostly work for free in their momentous task to inform the public about the grave dangers of climate change are doing it in the sincere belief that climate change and associated severe weather like floods and droughts is quickly threatening our food supply and way of life.
Vlad is very ingenious in always accusing the good guys of what his fossil fuel brainwashers are doing themselves.
He also lies about what other people do, for example calling me a ceramic engineer. WTF, where did that come from. Never had I worked with sinks and toilet bowls. Clearly he is delusional.
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Gary, the earthquake effect on the planet was negligible. What is your point? Nothing alleged about climate change, to bad you were not in Ottawa where I would give you a comp. to attend my climatology course.
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