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Thanks for all the opinions! Nicolas I'm sorry my words make no sense to you, but what I mean to say is that although DIRECT physical contact isn't used in chess, physical activity in OTHER things, MAY help in chess. This is why I included how physical activity can improve focus in school. Also, it is being debated as to whether chess will be played in the olympics! If it is SO obvious that chess isn't a sport, then why is this such a hard decision to make? However, I am enjoying the input from both perspectives nevertheless! :D
Chess doesn't meet the classic definition of a sport. This is pretty obvious, just read it a couple times. Chess will become a sport only if they change the definition by removing the word 'physical'. Hence arguing that chess is a sport is pointless.
Also, your argument made my day that crap made no sense.
I think you're being slightly critical. I am not the only one that thinks chess is a sport, and that has been demonstrated through this thread. Thus, "Hence arguing chess is a sport is pointless" is invalid. The whole point of this thread was to see different opinions of others, not to criticize them like you're doing.
I have written an article in a prior Scarborough Community of Toronto Chess News & Views, the newsletter of the Scarborough CC, some time ago, with extensive arguments why chess could be, and should be, considered a " sport " .
My favorite quote from Nicolas Haynes' last post :
Even though I am not very good at it, I love so much about chess, it is so much part of the fabric of my life, but how the heck can I call it a sport?! Even if the definition of the word "sport" were changed, there is simply not enough physical requirement. Seriously, when was the last time any of us had to battle through physical pain from a chess injury? When was the last time we had to conquer our fears of being literally knocked out before trying a gambit? When was the last time you heard of a chess player who had to retire before reaching senior years, just because of physical wear and tear on his body? When was the last time you had to stretch out the pain after playing chess, and then shower?!
Although most sports make you retire before senior years, and chess doesn't it, the fact remains, that skill level decreases as age increases. The main cause of this the reduced level of focus as you get older. Like I said, chess is not a direct use of physical activity, but indirectly. In my opinion, I believe chess is a sport. An intellectual one, but still a sport. The definition of sport also, does not state how much physical activity must be involved, just that there needs to be a physical component in it. It's small, and it's hard to see, but it's definitely there. Especially in very competitive play. :)
I have written an article in a prior Scarborough Community of Toronto Chess News & Views, the newsletter of the Scarborough CC, some time ago, with extensive arguments why chess could be, and should be, considered a " sport " .
The attempt is not pointless, as Zach notes.
Bob
Thanks for the hand Bob, I just hope that more people can see the purpose behind this thread as well. :D :D
"Chess is a Sport" in google gets 13,200 hits. So there's a pretty good chance that anybody's thoughts on the subject have already been expressed and recorded.
A pertinent question is: "Is Chess a Sport in Canada?" Yes and no. Yes, according to Captain Hugh Plante, who as President convinced the Executive of the Sports Federation of Canada to admit the CFC. That was in the late 1970s. No, according to the federal funding people. The answer also seems to vary with the language the question is asked in. English, usually no. Other languages, often yes.
In the Netherlands, chess is both a sport (i.e., an elite sport) and a game (i.e. a recreation).
This is such a pointless discussion that keeps cropping up every year or so - why the heck does it matter whether chess is a 'sport','game', 'pastime' or whatever? Whatever you call it, it's an enjoyable activity for many people, and one that some take very seriously.
Hi Bob, I sincerely hope you are kidding. Others might feel differently, but I find it almost revolting to call the great game of chess something else, just for the money. Maybe you mean that the government definitions of what should be funded should be changed, but that is different, and an honourable lobbying effort. On the other hand, there are many sports, with many problems, to the point that I feel calling chess a sport debases chess.
It's a game... If you call chess a sport, then you're pretty much calling any game a sport.
Time stopped! I think the battery in my wrist watch needs replacing. I hate when that happens.
Pro Line here in Ontario played with my mind. After betting sports with their game for several year, in spite of not having played pro line for quite a while now, I can't watch a sporting event without having a couple of dollars on the outcome. I can watch a chess game from start to finish.
The reason I don't bet the game anymore is because the odds aren't large enough for doing a 3 to 6 game parlay. Even if I win the payout doesn't justify the risk.
When teams such as Nashville and many more came into the league they were often not included on the betting sheet. They were considered not to be competitive. I don't expect to see chess on the betting sheets any time in the future.
After all my illusions concerning chess when I was younger had been shattered one by one, I came to the conclusion chess is a game that is simply a recreation. At best a glorified recreation.
Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer
It has become interesting to see how this thread has progressed. I would like to re-state the fact that it was a matter of opinion, just to see how chesstalkers felt. I hope noone takes this thread TOO seriously. I have no intention of proving chess is a sport in any way. I just stated MY opinion, and it seems like many others have different opinions, which I am glad to see. However, as to where government would fund chess if it were a sport, like Bob said, should be in another thread completely, if in one at all. :)
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