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Vlad, Gary, Bonham, and Kitich and some of their buddies could actually be recognized by FIDE as a separate federation. Under category 4) above if mental disability counted...
Speaking of which what kind of scary monster do you see me as being?
It is David Lavin, so the date might more be be 2008. He came on Montreal by himself and had a talk with the FQE. He had good ideas apparently. However, when he came back, his ideas were not approved by the CFC. I can't tell who exactly decided this.
The second negociation I was referring to was when Mallon was president (sorry again, we would have to search for the exact dates). Some negociations also took place with Van Dusen, but I don't have much details about it.
Well, David Lavin was President a couple years after I was, so I'm not sure how I could have negotiated with you after him... Also it was definitely NOT the CFC that caused the failure of the 2008 negotiations.
As for the ones in 2005 that I had with the FQE... The people I spoke with only ever wanted to talk about talking, or about what the CFC could do for the FQE (covering FIDE rating expenses for Quebec tournaments seems to come up frequently), but were unwilling to give at all.
Just out of curiosity, would you characterize the 2008 offer in the same way?
I am only familiar with 1980s and 90s, sorry.
As I pointed out in other threads, the CFC and FQE have worked together successfully on specific limited-duration projects the past few years. This is the way to proceed that makes the most sense to me given the difference of funding of the two organizations.
The FQE and CMA also appear to have a much better relationship these past few years and that, to me, was even more important.
Re: Why did the CFC and FQE relationship fall apart?
I'm not going to dispute any of the more than 100 posts already made on this very important topic.
But I will add that, so far as I know, chess is the only sporting endeavour in Canada where two separate organizations exist, and are for the most part in conflict over important issues, and are not cooperating in any meaningful or significant way.
Look at every other sport: it's a national body which has the provincial bodies as equal and fully cooperating members.
And chess may be in worse shape from an organizational standpoint than any other sporting endeavour in Canada. I think there is a strong connection there.
But I will add that, so far as I know, chess is the only sporting endeavour in Canada where two separate organizations exist, and are for the most part in conflict over important issues, and are not cooperating in any meaningful or significant way.
I don't know where this leads, but: Jeux de la Francophonie has teams from Quebec, New Brunswick, and Canada.
I know that you are dying to know. Chess Community is also very interested as well.
Don't worry Paul or someone will reply to your request very shorty, and it will be revealed to us very soon :D
You speak for the whole Chess Community now? I know you see yourself as an elite coach but does that really mean you speak for the Chess Community?
However, let's see if you are right. Let's see if Paul gets back to me soon. Not just someone else. I accept no substitutions because Paul is the one who sees grizzly bears and things. He mentioned a whole bunch of us so I'm sure he has us all labeled already. Like you he prefers to insult as many people as possible.
Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Wednesday, 7th March, 2012, 08:09 PM.
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