Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

[Jordan S. Berson]

Re: Bill C38 - break it up!

Were you referring to jobs where workers are flown in? It's so many weeks on and then they get flow home and get so many weeks off. Then it's back to the job. I don't think that should be eligible for EI at all.

Gary,

No, that's not the same as seasonal layoff. What you are referring to is called "Lay Days". Lay Days are days that the worker is off work, however he is considered as not unemployed. EI does not pay for those days.

How lay days are determined is mainly a function of the hours worked during a cycle. Suppose a work cycle is three weeks: 14 days working 10 hours, followed by seven days off. During that 21-day period, the worker will work 140 hours, for an average of almost 47 hours per week. Since that exceeds the number of hours that would normally constitute a full work week, then the lay week is considered a part of that cycle and therefore not payable. This is most common in the oil industry, mining, on a boat (i.e. Coast Guard), and in forestry, and generally where the work is in a remote location.

If an employee works 14 straight days and is then laid off during the three-week cycle, then he is entitled to benefits only after the end of the third week of the cycle. On the Record of Employment, the employer would be instructed to put the end date of that cycle as being the last day for which paid.

Seasonal layoff is more a function of the environment, which can sometimes include a boat being tied up for several weeks for a variety of reasons causing a shortage of work. During some times of the year, there could be seasonal layoffs due to fishing restrictions, weather, construction, etc.

Hope that clears things up...

Jordan

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Bill C38 - break it up!

Jordan,

How about places which employ people long enough to qualify for EI, lay them off and hire someone else. Then repeat the process. I've heard this exists but have never seen it first hand.

[Jordan S. Berson]

Re: Bill C38 - break it up!

Jordan,

How about places which employ people long enough to qualify for EI, lay them off and hire someone else. Then repeat the process. I've heard this exists but have never seen it first hand.

There is a project in some high unemployment areas called the Job Creation Partnership Program (JCP) where employers are advised to share the work to give workers some workforce experience at minimum wage. However, JCP hours and earnings are not EI insurable, and therefore they do not qualify for EI claims directly.

Normally, a claimant with little or no attachment to the labour force (LFA) over the prior two years would need 910 hours of work in the past 52 weeks to qualify for an initial EI claim. For a person living in an area with a 20% unemployment rate, that's a lot to ask for.

A claimant with enough LFA who lives in an area with an unemployment rate over 13% only needs 420 hours to qualify for Regular EI benefits. JCP is one way to give workers enough LFA so that they may qualify for benefits a year later if they find 420 hours of regular work.

An employer who lays off an employee and hires someone else is essentially falsifying the Record of Employment (ROE). A "layoff" occurs when there is a shortage of work, meaning the employer is not permitted to replace the worker because he is stating on the ROE that there is no work. If an employer dismisses an employee, then justification must follow, and dismissals are generally permanent in nature.

[Aman Hambleton]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

VOTING ALL NIGHT TONIGHT

[Bob Armstrong]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

We could hope the government would fall, if their benches all deserted the sinking ship!

Bob

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

We could hope the government would fall, if their benches all deserted the sinking ship!

Bob

Hi Bob,

If Bob Rae were to lead the liberals into an election under your scenario he could well end up with more ridings than Mulcair.

I notice the Ontario Liberals are starting to realize the high cost of electricity is costing Ontario jobs and wants to give lower hydro rates for creating jobs.

http://www.thestar.com/business/arti...r-job-creation

I doubt that will help much.

[Bob Armstrong]

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If Bob Rae were to lead the liberals into an election .....

Hi Gary:

Federal: I guess we can let that one go now......

And a new leader is not going to help the Liberals, who have now had their days in the sun, and squandered them with scandals, etc.

Ontario - I have to admit, McGinty has chances in Kitchener, to get back his majority. Low odds on the NDP taking it.

Bob

[Aman Hambleton]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

And it's all finally over...

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

Hi Gary:

Federal: I guess we can let that one go now......

And a new leader is not going to help the Liberals, who have now had their days in the sun, and squandered them with scandals, etc.

With Bob Rae as leader [oops looks like Bob Rae has had enough of the sideshow - Nevermind the Liberals are doomed unless Justin Trudeau can get his act together fairly quickly...] the Liberals will surpass the NDP as the opposition in the next election. Liberals will move away from the left and try to occupy the center/left of the political spectrum. If the Conservatives do too many boneheaded things between now and then, the Liberals might even win a minority government. If the Conservatives refrain from stupidity they will win another majority.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

It looks like McGuinty, who promised us no new taxes over the years and then added taxes, is finding out what it feels like to get jerked around by Horvath..

Judging by last months net job losses I'd say the problems here in Ontario are relatively serious. I wonder how the savings bond program they are advertising on TV is going in view of the political turmoil. Who wants Ontario bonds with the NDP pulling the strings?

I do believe he means to call an election over the budget if they don't pass it without changes. Having the government in these kind of times can not be fun. Whoever wins won't likely be popular after the next four years.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Harper spanks opposition and passes budget.

The tone from the official Opposition was oddly celebratory, given that they’d just faced 22-plus hours of consecutive spankings by the Conservative majority.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06...-vote-wrapped/

LOL! What did Elizabeth May and her NDP/Liberal cohorts accomplish? Exactly nothing. Is that the best that they can do? Delay things 22 hours? I am sure that it was May's finest hour. LOL!

Stephan Harper will be a bit sleepy for the big announcement in Windsor and Detroit for the agreement on building the new DRIC bridge.

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Re: Harper spanks opposition and passes budget.

LOL! What did Elizabeth May and her NDP/Liberal cohorts accomplish? Exactly nothing. Is that the best that they can do? Delay things 22 hours?

Publicity for her and the budget.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Harper spanks opposition and passes budget.

Publicity for her and the budget.

Looks like Horwath is trying to do that in Ontario. If the Liberals don't have the support by the time of the vote I expect them to ask for an election. I doubt they will allow the budget to be voted and defeated or passed as amended by the opposition.

John Diefenbaker did something like that. He was given a minority government. After a few short months he went back to the voters telling them the opposition would not allow him to govern, and asking for a majority. They gave him a huge majority at the time.

Politics in Ontario has suddenly become interesting.

[Jordan S. Berson]

Re: Harper spanks opposition and passes budget.

Publicity for her and the budget.

I would not want my MP to sit idly by and let the budget pass uncontested. Although the 22-hour voting was mostly futile, it's a lot better than not voting at all.

[Bob Armstrong]

Re: Harper spanks opposition and passes budget.

Hi Vlad:

Well, the good result is that everyone now knows 2 things:

1. The Conservatives are abusing their majority, and gutting democracy , by using a budget bill to try to hide all kinds of ideological knives ( aptly called a trojan horse bill by the NDP );

2. We know now for what the Conservatives have the ideological knives out.

They will pay for this at the next election.

Bob A