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You have changed the quote from what I wrote to what suits you. That's basically dishonest. Would you kindly edit that so the quote is exact?
Hi Gary:
It is quite common on this board to highlight the part of a post being responded to, by deleting the part of the post that is not so relevant, so long as removing the context, does not change the intention of the part of the post left.
I do not think that the elimination of the part of your post I deleted, changed the technical legal point you were making, and to which I was responding, with the example I had in my original post (to which you were responding).
However, there is often disagreement on whether a statement has been taken "out of context". If you feel your statement is somehow altered by my editing of it, of course I will edit my post and insert your full post. I'll go do it now.
Sorry you see it that way, but we all are entitled to form our own opinions, especially here on Chesstalk.
Despite the predictable return of the status quo (2 Libs and 2 Cons before and after) it's clear that the Harper regime has been firmly rebuked by the voters. Christopher Majka of Project Democracy notes as follows ...
Originally posted by C. Majka
In all four ridings Conservatives lost significant support, from 17.8 per cent of their support in Provancher (a Conservative fortress) to 61.6 per cent of their support in Toronto Centre. In the only race that very nearly resulted in an upset, Liberal candidate Rolf Dinsdale drew 11,814 votes (42.7 per cent) of the votes in Brandon-Souris (another Conservative stronghold), only narrowly losing to Conservative candidate Larry McGuire, who with 12,205 votes received the support of 44.1 per cent of those who turned out to vote. Given that these ridings were located in three provinces (Quebec, Ontario, and Manitoba) it's hard to interpret these results as anything but a rebuke of the Harper Conservatives.
The Liberals should be happy with across-the board increases in numbers, even in ridings in which they lost. However, the results are less likely an indicator of support for the Liberals and more likely a reflection of the unpopularity and precipitous drop in support of the Conservatives. Other than the two known Conservative strongholds, the NDP can find solace in their strong second place in both Toronto Centre and Bourassa. The presence of Linda McQuaig in Parliament would have undoubtedly sent panic-stricken Conservatives scurrying in all directions and would have been a formidable intellectual presence in the NDP back benches. Let's hope she runs again. The Greens went up in some, and down in others, but they aren't yet in contention in any of these ridings.
The appalingly low electoral turnout should be a reality check for all. The turnout for Byelections is commonly smaller than for general elections, as with these 2013 Byelections ... "with turnout declining by an astounding 52 per cent in Bourassa, 43 per cent in Provancher, 37 per cent in Toronto Centre, and 21 per cent in Brandon-Souris."
Incumbents seem to do well in such situations. Any party that can get out a significant portion of the non-voting electorate, clearly, can win such (by)elections. Those who try to predict the future exclusively based on past results may get a very unpleasant, but deserved, surprise.
I know you don't believe in polls, Gary, but they do often have currency. I knew you'd want to know about this one - will stir your commitment to get that $ 20 saved up in advance!!
Don't count the NDP out too soon - they may yet form the next federal government of Canada.
Bob A
Yes and the polls showed the Liberals were up 29% in the riding that they ultimately lost. I wouldn't trust questionable polls. The real question is what is going to happen with the CBC with its major source of advertising (NHL Hockey) gone.
Well, Bob, I think your wager just got a bit safer. Not a lot, but a bit.
I think the Cons gave away the next federal election. That over the end of home delivery for mail. Probably Mr. Trudeau is in the right place at the right time if he promises to continue home mail service.
Provincially, someone should give Ms. Wynne a history book which covers Joe Clarke's attempt to try to win re-election on a gasoline price hike. Hudak is sure starting to look good to me. I hope he won't suffer fallout from the federal postal bungle.
Horvath is complicit in the provincial government's numerous blunders as she is continually propping them up. Horvath is an equal evil to the present government. Ontario voters have shown that they are stupid but they are not that stupid as to hand a mandate to someone who is largely responsible for making sure that the government doesn't (so far) pay for its many billion dollar blunders. You can't be in bed with the rascals and then pretend that you are offering an alternative.
The biggest problem with the left is that they seem to be of the opinion that huge new tax increases and more green energy projects will get us out of this mess. Green energy will destroy the province all by itself by raising electricity prices through the roof and killing any manufacturers who are not generating their own power.
It's hard to calculate. Each party has their core supporters. Likely they will all get that vote. Swing voters decide. The NDP numbers seem to me to be inaccurate quite often with the real support being higher than the numbers we see. Probably their own polling numbers are more accurate and I don't know what that shows.
Horvath could form a minority government with the help of the liberals. I don't think they will get a majority. But likely none will get a majority. A better question is who will win the least number of seats.
If I were still working I'd vote for the party I thought was most likely to keep me in my job. But I'm old and retired so it doesn't really make much difference who wins. They all talk a good game.
If the voter turnout is much larger than normal it will likely indicate a change in government.
In the aftermath of the ice storm I'm surprised at all the food spoilage and the amount the government is putting into replacing spoiled food.
We were out of our home for a few hours shy of 5 days. From our fridge and freezer we threw out very little. Some stuff where the package had been opened and there was a bit of thawing as well as some fish which wasn't frozen solid. Most in our freezer hadn't even started to thaw. In the refrigerator the milk was still good. A bag and a half from a three bag pack which has now been drank. All the dairy products were still good.
We cooled down under 10 C in the first day. Then it slowly dropped to plus 1 C. I have a temp. console which holds the high and low temperatures both indoors and outdoors.
Is it possible under those temps for a freezer to thaw and food to spoil so quickly?
Amazing that with all the real chess news, you guys will still post your nonsense crap on here. I guess it's all about you..... there are other sites available...if they'll let you on!
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