Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

[Bob Armstrong]

Year End Review: Canada - Next 2015 Federal Gov't?

Poll suggests Tories and NDP currently in statistical tie: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...d.html?cmp=rss

I know you don't believe in polls, Gary, but they do often have currency. I knew you'd want to know about this one - will stir your commitment to get that $ 20 saved up in advance!!

Bob A, NDP supporter

An end of year look at months of results from six different pollsters suggests:

Trudeau's Liberals remain imperviously buoyant,
Harper's Tories have seen only marginal gains despite a number of issues breaking their way, and
NDP fortunes are stalled, notwithstanding Mulcair's widely lauded parliamentary performance.

In the past week alone, national polls from recognized opinion surveyors have shown the following figures:

Liberal support as high as 41 per cent (Forum Research) and as low as 32 per cent (EKOS),
Conservative support from 33 to 31 per cent, and
NDP support at 19 (Leger), 20 (Forum) and 17 per cent (EKOS).

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/federal-po...171334532.html

Well, that's not all that helpful.........except for the fact that it seems my $ 20 bill, sitting on my bookshelf in my study, is getting used to the fact that the NDP will not form the next Canadian federal government, as per my bet with Gary. So it looks pretty much at this point, like it will be migrating to live with Checkmate.....but hey, 10 months in politics is a life-time...never give up my little $ 20 friend!

Bob A

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Year End Review: Canada - Next 2015 Federal Gov't?

Well, that's not all that helpful.........except for the fact that it seems my $ 20 bill, sitting on my bookshelf in my study, is getting used to the fact that the NDP will not form the next Canadian federal government, as per my bet with Gary. So it looks pretty much at this point, like it will be migrating to live with Checkmate.....but hey, 10 months in politics is a life-time...never give up my little $ 20 friend!

Bob A

Actually, I didn't consider the financial implications when I made the bet. Smarter would have been to make the bet in US dollars. Our Canadian dollar was worth around $1.05 against the U.S. dollar during the 2011 election. Now it has collapsed to a mere approx. 85 cents. Our dollar hasn't fallen as much as the Russian Ruble but it's not that far off. Something the newspapers and politicians are not exactly forthcoming in telling us. We're being punished almost as much as the Russians by the drop in oil price.

The players in the NHL are doing better than those in the KHL. NHL players are payed in U.S. dollars while KHL players are paid in Russian Rubbles. (SIC).

It's a good thing Alberta is so strongly conservative and likely to support the governing political party. It's not outside the realm of possibility oil could test the $30. range although that would be extreme.

The problem is this. I think we've been fed a bunch of baloney which passed for science. It's likely oil is as plentiful underground as water is above ground. It's simply a matter of finding methods of extracting the oil and the ones who can do that at the lowest prices will dictate the selling price.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Year End Review: Canada - Next 2015 Federal Gov't?

Here's a little something which might have some effect on the choices people make of the stance they want the government to take on foreign affairs. Kind of makes my tagline of 2015 being the year of the Nuke "interesting".

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/12...litary-threat/

[Nigel Hanrahan]

Year End Review

Here's a little something which might have some effect on the choices people make of the stance they want the government to take on foreign affairs.

Anyone who makes a habit of reading the National Post has already decided how they're going to vote in the next election, don't you think?

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Year End Review

Anyone who makes a habit of reading the National Post has already decided how they're going to vote in the next election, don't you think?

No. It likely indicates the person has a tablet and downloaded the free app.

[Nigel Hanrahan]

Year End Review review

No. It likely indicates the person has a tablet and downloaded the free app.

haha. What a clever reply. But, I dunno. Wouldn't they get the app from RT if they wanted information about the new Russian military doctrine rather than from a source that would likely be critical and negative? I mean, doesn't everyone go to original sources first?

That's why I say that someone reading the Nazional Post has probably already made up their mind, politically speaking. But who's to say...

BTW, RT has smartphone AND tablet versions. They are the first newschannel to break the one billions hits on their YouTube channel. Amazing.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Year End Review review

That's why I say that someone reading the Nazional Post has probably already made up their mind, politically speaking. But who's to say...

BTW, RT has smartphone AND tablet versions. They are the first newschannel to break the one billions hits on their YouTube channel. Amazing.

Personally, I wouldn't believe much I read from RT anymore than I'd believe everything I read in the Canadian papers. Maybe I'll have a look sometime and see if you're directing me to some Boshevik rantings.

Today is my 48th wedding anniversary so I can't get into politics other than to tell you I'm most likely to vote for someone who will promise to keep my door to door mail delivery intact. It's really the main issue for me.

This is a busy time of the year, Nigel. Boxing day (which co-incidently is Checkmate's birthday) the crowd comes over and more eating. This year was very nice because I had a 10 year old chess student. Then one day of rest and left overs. Then anniversary and more eating. Two days to recover and it's just in time for New Years Eve and probably visitors on New years day. I suppose my pension cheque will come rolling in somewhere along the line.

January 2nd the diet starts.

[Nigel Hanrahan]

Re: Year End Review review

Personally, I wouldn't believe much I read from RT anymore than I'd believe everything I read in the Canadian papers. Maybe I'll have a look sometime and see if you're directing me to some Bolshevik rantings.

RT seems to be oriented to a generic "alternative" approach from the MSM. They have left AND right. It's a strange mixture for those who use a traditional political scorecard. They are state-supported, like the CBC and BBC, and also claim to be independent of advertisers and government. Maybe compare RT to Al-Jazeera; both are pretty good on many international issues, with critical coverage not found in the MSM, but their domestic coverage is much less critical.

Anyway, enjoy your new year.

[Mark S. Dutton]

Time for a change in canada!

Stephen Joseph Harper, PC MP (born April 30, 1959) is a Canadian politician who is the 22nd and current Prime Minister of Canada and the Leader of the Conservative Party. Harper became prime minister in 2006, forming a minority government after the 2006 election. He is the first prime minister to come from the newly reconstituted Conservative Party, which formed after a merger of the Progressive Conservative Party and the Canadian Alliance.

The time has come (October 2015) for a change from the current "King of Canada".

For more than 9 years (since Feb. 6, 2006) and 4 elections, Canada keeps voting the "would-be King" back into power. Time for a change? You betcha!

I live in the Federal Riding of Saanich which is represented by the only elected Green Party MP - Elizabeth May!

I sure hope that the rest of Canada wakes up and votes for a candidate who is NOT "conservative". -- that's right -- "ABC" -- anyone but Conservative.

In Ontario, a member of our "chess family" was introduced: Gary Gladstone - The Best Liberal Candidate for King-Vaughan Riding: https://t.co/efELD8M70R

Take a look at this video and consider that it is time to "change the King"

I am hoping that the chess community will support someone like Gary Gladstone!

http://www.garygladstone.ca/pics_vids

[Bob Armstrong]

Mini-Poll (Quebec Only) - Feb.: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

Poll suggests Tories and NDP currently in statistical tie: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...d.html?cmp=rss

I know you don't believe in polls, Gary, but they do often have currency. I knew you'd want to know about this one - will stir your commitment to get that $ 20 saved up in advance!!

Bob A, NDP supporter

Hi Gary:

Now we could go on and on about the value of polls this far in advance of an election, but I'm sure we've covered that ad nauseam in our prior polls. Our fans of this thread ;) probably need some relief from that. So I'll just post the most recent CROP/Quebec poll:

LPC 33 - down 4 - still twice as high as under Iggy (14%)
NDP 30 - up 3
Bloc 17 - steady over 2 months
CPC 16 - steady over 2 months

The main issues for me are two:

1. If CPC gets very few seats in Quebec, and lose some elsewhere, if they could manage to defy odds and polls, it will likely have to be a minority government - at least that may slow down the damage rate some.

2. If the NDP is to just stay in as the official opposition, they cannot collapse in Quebec as some have predicted they are. But it is NOT an #NDP collapse. However, it is true that the #NDP are down 13 points from Layton in 2011 (43%). Still, if Justin manages to put his foot in his mouth on some Quebec hot-button issue, the NDP will be the one to reap the benefit.

What do you think Gary? Who is going to form the government, and majority or minority?

Bob

P.S. My $ 20 bill on my chess book cabinet in my study tells me the room is a bit cold this year. I tell him maybe your place might be warmer than ours next Oct. It goes into hissy fits every time I try to prepare him for this eventuality.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Mini-Poll (Quebec Only) - Feb.: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

What do you think Gary? Who is going to form the government, and majority or minority?

Hi Bob,

I don't know but think it will be a Liberal government. Minority government is not on the ballot, something voters should remember.

Elections are often on a riding by riding basis. Lots of people don't simply head to the polls looking to support a particular leader.

In this riding, which has been split in two with redistribution, the incumbent conservative will be facing a popular councilor who is the Liberals choice. Judging by the lawn signs Door to Door mail delivery is an issue. Also, as the Nuclear plant is scheduled to close in 2020, some literature the Conservative incumbent sent Today says he will propose building a "spent nuclear fuel" recycling facility on the site. We'll see how many folks want that in their back yard.

Without knowing the other party platforms on the issues it's hard to guess who will win.

My guess is this riding goes Liberal. But, it's only a guess.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Mini-Poll (Quebec Only) - Feb.: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

It's hard to know how recent events will effect the federal election, if at all.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/02...es-saying-yes/

This might well help Mulcair.

I'll have to rethink my vote in the federal election.

[Bob Armstrong]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

Poll suggests Tories and NDP currently in statistical tie: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...d.html?cmp=rss

I know you don't believe in polls, Gary, but they do often have currency. I knew you'd want to know about this one - will stir your commitment to get that $ 20 saved up in advance!!

Bob A, NDP supporter

NDP leads!!! A neck and neck 3-way race now.......StephenJustin is self-destructing!

https://twitter.com/hashtag/cdnpoli?src=hash

Need more be said? Start talking to your $ 20 bill now, about moving to my study, Gary!

Bob A

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

Need more be said? Start talking to your $ 20 bill now, about moving to my study, Gary!

Bob A

Hi Bob,

I have no idea who will win the federal election. I'm mostly interested in watching Alberta and their experiment with the NDP. So far the oil and gas sector seems to be voting with their feet.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

By the way, Bob, my $20. tells me it's brave and willing to go out into the world if need be..

Do you think the election will be this fall or next spring?