Anthropogenic Climate Change ( title changed ) - Assertion & Denial

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  • Alan Baljeu
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    Re: Climate Change ( 3rd Version ) - Assertion & Denial

    The claim here is that average annual temperature is constant over the specified period because the period started on a warm part of the cycle, and ended on the cold part of the cycle.

    This claim predicts therefore that coming years will involve a return to the warm part and the average temperature will go up. Further, by the time we get to the next cooling cycle, the longer chart from 1998-202x will show a distinct warming trend, even as 1988-2012 shows a warming trend.

    In short, 2013-2016 will be warmer than present. Global mean temperature from 1998-2016 will show an increase.

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  • Mathieu Cloutier
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    Re: Re : Re: UN Climate Report - To Be a Shocker

    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    Odd, they interviewed Jones and he said there hadn't been warming for 16 years but he wouldn't worry until the lull hit two decades. Looks like we should look for some cuts in government spending in this area given the lack of warming.
    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/20...67108.abstract

    Care to comment on that?

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    My latest Sierra Club Canada blog on why meteorologists at Environment Canada and Accuweather and elsewhere can no longer get any seasonal forecasts correct -- they both say Ottawa will be cold and snowy this winter -- don't think so --
    http://www.sierraclub.ca/en/Climate2.0

    Take that climate denying echo chamber fanatical zombie earth haters...

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    Re: Re : Re: UN Climate Report - To Be a Shocker

    On the Arctic now: 1.18 million views so far --- get informed -- get ammunition to trash the climate denial simpletons...
    Live feed mandatory viewing until 8 pm on Thurs. Nov. 15th; become informed about climate change, renewable energy, dirty weather; then you will be armed to completely trash the nonsensical koolaid drinking talking head oil energy stooges that post here...
    http://climaterealityproject.org/

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Re: Climate Change ( 3rd Version ) - Assertion & Denial

    Originally posted by dan hunter View Post
    OMG...this makes as much sense as the other recent posts here!:):D
    I was about to say the same thing.

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    Re: Re : Re: UN Climate Report - To Be a Shocker

    Live feed mandatory viewing until 8 pm on Thurs. Nov. 15th; become informed about climate change, renewable energy, dirty weather; then you will be armed to completely trash the nonsensical koolaid drinking talking head oil energy stooges that post here...
    http://climaterealityproject.org/

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  • Dan Hunter
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    Re: Climate Change ( 3rd Version ) - Assertion & Denial

    Have a good day
    Last edited by Dan Hunter; Thursday, 15th November, 2012, 10:42 AM. Reason: spam deleted

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Re: Re : Re: UN Climate Report - To Be a Shocker

    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    Maybe Bob A. should give you a prize for the best use of approved adjectives in a climate change discussion. :)
    Odd, they interviewed Jones and he said there hadn't been warming for 16 years but he wouldn't worry until the lull hit two decades. Looks like we should look for some cuts in government spending in this area given the lack of warming.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    Their work was taken completely out of context by the scum of the earth climate denial charlatons and their evil overlord oil thugs...they cleared that up the day after the original denialist kool-aid drinking shysters got all excited...
    Maybe Bob A. should give you a prize for the best use of approved adjectives in a climate change discussion. :)

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    To clear the record on the UK meteorological office, they DID not say that global warming stopped 16 years ago. Their work was taken completely out of context by the scum of the earth climate denial charlatons and their evil overlord oil thugs...they cleared that up the day after the original denialist kool-aid drinking shysters got all excited...

    http://earthsky.org/earth/uk-met-off...p-16-years-ago

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Re: Re : Re: UN Climate Report - To Be a Shocker

    Sorry...my bad.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    It is a normal science. You can observe, analyze, make conclusions, create predictions.
    The topic wasn't set up that way. Rather than wording the topic so it's a discussion of climate change, it's been worded in a confrontational manner where there is only the black and white of assertion and denial.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Re: Re : Re: UN Climate Report - To Be a Shocker

    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    We're talking about climate change which is probably not based on real science.
    It is a normal science. You can observe, analyze, make conclusions, create predictions.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: Climate Change ( 3rd Version ) - Assertion & Denial

    Originally posted by dan hunter View Post
    I guess you didn't really read my post, or get my point, so I was wasting my time!

    I live in the Ottawa area, and I have edited the link, which got truncated in the translation.
    I get your point. You like the MET office REVISED models based on temperatures but don't like it when others use weather records temperatures and come to different conclusions.
    Last edited by Gary Ruben; Thursday, 15th November, 2012, 12:18 AM.

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  • Jordan S. Berson
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    Re: Climate Change ( 3rd Version ) - Assertion & Denial

    Originally posted by John Coleman View Post
    Not ok with me. I was hoping the thread would die, and the posters would decamp to a more appropriate forum. Oh well... I don't read it.
    Ditto.....

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