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  • Francis Rodriguez
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    Will visitors be allowed in the playing hall? May I take some pictures? Thnx.
    The media certainly, particularly in the first minutes of
    the round as at the Olympiads - and we can appoint you
    the official photographer Egis - your work is excellent!

    Francis

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Francis Rodriguez View Post
    the NAYCC
    Will visitors be allowed in the playing hall? May I take some pictures? Thnx.

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  • Francis Rodriguez
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    I'm sure Larry will help elucidate all your queries! :-)

    Just to keep you posted -

    Entries for the NAYCC have already started pouring in this
    weekend, predictably as you might have guessed, from the US!

    Have fun!
    Francis

    Francis Rodrigues, Regional Director
    Chess 'N Math Association, toronto@chess-math.org
    tel: 416-488-5506; fax: 416-486-4637;
    701 Mt. Pleasant Road, Toronto, ON, M4S 2N4.
    website: www.chess-math.org

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  • George Zhou
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    sounds reasonable, if you promised something then yes...

    might be an interesting topic:
    Official player in WYCC means a lot, free accommodation, less entry fee etc, most winners probably choose it if possible.
    but so little is the value of being an official player in Pan American or NAYCC, experience from last year's Pan America, it was worth $300(paying $300 less than accompanying person in same hotel) if only the player himself/herself goes, I noticed many American families with two or more accompanying persons chose booking their own hotel and pay a penalty of being not staying in designated hotels.

    Wondering what is the benefits of being official players in NAYCC, free accomocation in shared double occupancy with breakfast, and two meals ,Those who wish single occupancy may pay the difference, how much does it worth? The single room is $99 and double room is $106, so if one parent and one official player comes, the accommodation worth $106 / 2 = $53 per night, totally being official means $53x4=$212, am I correct?

    my understanding is that the student's room can only allow one person in single room or two people in double room(I haven't got reply back from the chestnut to confirm this, any one can confirm this?), if the official's both parents or even siblings will come, then they have to stay in two rooms, the total cost will be higher than staying in a 3 star hotel. Am I correct?
    Last edited by George Zhou; Monday, 6th May, 2013, 09:46 PM.

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  • Andrei Botez
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    Originally posted by Larry Bevand View Post
    ...if you promise something you are obliged to make it happen.
    Larry

    I like the way you think ;)

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  • Larry Bevand
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    Originally posted by Andrei Botez View Post
    You have a good point Larry.

    What would be your solution in the case of a youngster that finished on 3rd place last year CYCC, where the champion was the official Canadian representative in Slovenia WYCC, the 2nd place winner was the official Canadian representative at PanAmerican Youth and he/she is now to old to participate in that section?


    Andrei
    Honestly, If I were the CFC (which thank God I am not :) I would allow the 2012 qualifiers to play in the 2013 NAYCC as they were promised that perk. As the CFC I would absorb that cost....afterall money was made last year...so it is no as though they have to break open a piggy bank here :). In otherwords...if you promise something you are obliged to make it happen.

    More important is 2013: If I were the CFC I would eat the cost of the 2012 qualifiers. I would tell the 2013 CYCC qualifiers...you will be our official reps...and CMA will will be stuck with that bill :)

    Larry

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  • Andrei Botez
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    Originally posted by Felix Dumont View Post
    It is not clear if it's last year's CYCC that qualifies for the 2013 NAYCC or this year's CYCC. I guess someone will have to clarify that.
    Some facts:

    2012 CYCC - July 3-6 2012

    * WYCC - November 2012
    * Pan American Youth Championships 2012 Lima, Peru 21-Jul-2012 30-Jul-2012
    * North American Youth Chess Championship - Mexico May 31-June 4 2012

    If a player wins a personal right to participate in a championship (WYCC) - FIDE gives that player the right even he/she changes the age category meantime.

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  • Felix Dumont
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    Originally posted by Larry Bevand View Post
    I have no problem with any of this.

    Obviously I would have preferred that the top place finishers of the 2013 CYCC could opt to be the official reps at the 2013 NAYCC...but I am only a pawn in this game :).

    Let me see if I understand...a youngster qualifies for the 2013 NAYCC based on their result at the CYCC - July 2012...a year ago...and now may get to play in a section they never participated in as they are now older...call me stupid...duh :)

    Larry
    It is not clear if it's last year's CYCC that qualifies for the 2013 NAYCC or this year's CYCC. I guess someone will have to clarify that.

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  • Andrei Botez
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    Originally posted by Larry Bevand View Post
    I have no problem with any of this.

    Obviously I would have preferred that the top place finishers of the 2013 CYCC could opt to be the official reps at the 2013 NAYCC...but I am only a pawn in this game :).

    Let me see if I understand...a youngster qualifies for the 2013 NAYCC based on their result at the CYCC - July 2012...a year ago...and now may get to play in a section they never participated in as they are now older...call me stupid...duh :)

    Larry
    You have a good point Larry.

    What would be your solution in the case of a youngster that finished on 3rd place last year CYCC, where the champion was the official Canadian representative in Slovenia WYCC, the 2nd place winner was the official Canadian representative at PanAmerican Youth and he/she is now to old to participate in that section?


    Andrei

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  • Larry Bevand
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    Originally posted by Felix Dumont View Post
    This post can only be viewed by governors. However, there's nothing confidential in it, so here's what Michael Barron wrote (pretty much similar to what he previously wrote):
    I have no problem with any of this.

    Obviously I would have preferred that the top place finishers of the 2013 CYCC could opt to be the official reps at the 2013 NAYCC...but I am only a pawn in this game :).

    Let me see if I understand...a youngster qualifies for the 2013 NAYCC based on their result at the CYCC - July 2012...a year ago...and now may get to play in a section they never participated in as they are now older...call me stupid...duh :)

    Larry

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  • Felix Dumont
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    It is more complicated then automatic "3th place goes to the NAYC".

    Read this explanation of the rules: http://www.chesscanada.info/forum/sh...0351#post20351
    This post can only be viewed by governors. However, there's nothing confidential in it, so here's what Michael Barron wrote (pretty much similar to what he previously wrote):
    Every one of 3 CYCC winners can be an official representative at one of 3 international events by their choice:
    the CYCC winner is the first choice,
    the 2nd place winner is the second choice, and
    the 3rd place winner is the third choice.

    In this particular case of 2012 CYCC Under 14 Girls:
    the CYCC winner - Agniya Pobereshnikova,
    the 2nd place winner - Melissa Giblon, and
    the 3rd place winner - Rachel Tao.

    Agniya chose WYCC,
    now it's Melissa's turn to choose.

    Just to clarify:
    All 3 CYCC winners could play at all 3 events, but could be an official representative only at one of them.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Andrei Botez View Post
    Are the Canadian official players the ones who got 3rd place in 2012 CYCC?
    It is more complicated than automatic "3th place goes to the NAYC".

    Read this explanation of the rules: http://www.chesscanada.info/forum/sh...0351#post20351

    As Felix pointed, the link only for CFC Governors. sorry.
    Last edited by Egidijus Zeromskis; Monday, 6th May, 2013, 02:52 PM. Reason: added text

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  • Larry Bevand
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    Originally posted by Andrei Botez View Post
    Are the Canadian official players the ones who got 3rd place in 2012 CYCC?
    That seems to be the case based on the info I received from a parent yesterday. Obviously the CFC decides this.

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  • Francis Rodriguez
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    Originally posted by Felix Dumont View Post
    There's a limited number of official representatives, but all kids can participate (and it's a great opportunity).

    Thanks Felix. Yes, it's open to all kids, and an awesome
    opportunity to gain CM titles, rub shoulders with North
    America's finest, and enjoy four days of top-class chess!

    Francis

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  • Francis Rodriguez
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Scarborough CC is about 1/2 juniors now, so I'd put out some flyers for the NAYCC at our club - let us know when one is available to download. Thanks.

    Bob A
    Thanks Bob, yes, hope to have the flyer in circulation shortly :-)
    I'm sure your trail-blazing TCN will provide excellent coverage!

    Given the current boom in Canadian youth chess, we're looking
    at providing a large and strong opposition to the inevitable surge
    of master-level youth that will be flocking here from the south! :-)

    Francis

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