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When we did a comparison last summer between FQE/FIDE and CFC rating (based on every player that was active in both federation), we saw that the average difference was much higher for lower rated players. In many cases, the difference was between 200 and 300 points (or even more).
There is indeed an enormous problem (that affects the CFC credibility), but obviously no player will want to see his rating reduced.
Underrated junior players will only remain so for two or three tournaments, if they really are underrated, bonus points or not.
Felix, we disagree on so many levels, where do I begin? :(
I think I'll just move onto something else. Have a nice day.
I'll just wait until I see your proposals, then vote No. ;)
With so many isolated pools of players in Canada (or the US for that matter), I wonder how long CFC ratings (localized or national) could be expected to stay at approximate parity with FIDE ratings before another 'correction' might be needed to restore such parity.
Last edited by Kevin Pacey; Tuesday, 9th April, 2013, 12:16 PM.
Reason: Grammar
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I disagree. The bonus system is working well and solving the problem of underrated juniors.
Felix, your analysis is superficial, it is based on a crude comparison of CFC and FIDE ratings of the top 100 players only.
If you want to "adjust" CFC ratings based on this, then your solution should be to "adjust" just the ratings of those top 100 players. You could propose a formula to reduce the CFC ratings of those top 100 players. Not something I would do, but go ahead if you are so convinced there is a problem. But please limit your tinkering to the top 100 players.
Good luck getting them to agree to lower their ratings. :D
The main issue I think there is with the bonus point system is that juniors who may not be "underrated" are able to gain bonus points from let's call them "over rated seniors." I think that if a system's intent is accuracy rather than simply to have the highest possible ratings, there should be an equivalent penalty for players on the decline, as there are bonus points for players on the rise.
It's quite the PITA... I copied all your text into a text editor and replaced all the tabs with 4 spaces and then manually lined everything up. Once that is done (the key thing is to avoid creating the text with any tab characters) I enclosed it within a CODE and /CODE tag pair... eg:
{CODE}
this is carefully formatted
{/CODE}
of course, in the above example I replaced the usual [ and ] with { and } so that you can see what I mean.
I *really* *really* wish this crappy VBulletin forum software had the ability to post items as-is but the CODE tag seems to be the only way to leave things more or less unmolested.
table works too, though including all tds and trs is painful too.
Thanks Egid... I think I tried that once too, but including all those tags manually was a big hassle. There are freeware utilities out there to create html tables from text or via typing into a GUI interface, but that seems like a lot of work as well.
At least the {CODE} tag seems to be more or less like "leave it alone" but there are drawbacks: a maximum size and then it makes it a scroll window; it leaves the word 'code' as a sort of silly heading etc. Overall, I wish the forum software had some better features.
Thanks Egid... I think I tried that once too, but including all those tags manually was a big hassle. There are freeware utilities out there to create html tables from text or via typing into a GUI interface, but that seems like a lot of work as well.
At least the {CODE} tag seems to be more or less like "leave it alone" but there are drawbacks: a maximum size and then it makes it a scroll window; it leaves the word 'code' as a sort of silly heading etc. Overall, I wish the forum software had some better features.
Does opening the original file in PDF and then using the take a snapshot feature not work. I used this when I was copying tables over from financial annual reports for a school project.
When we did a comparison last summer between FQE/FIDE and CFC rating (based on every player that was active in both federation), we saw that the average difference was much higher for lower rated players. In many cases, the difference was between 200 and 300 points (or even more).
There is indeed an enormous problem (that affects the CFC credibility), but obviously no player will want to see his rating reduced.
Underrated junior players will only remain so for two or three tournaments, if they really are underrated, bonus points or not.
FIDE ratings are virtually useless in Canada for all but a handful of players. Go ahead, tell me how many players in Canada played at least 20 FIDE rated games last year.
Last edited by Duncan Smith; Tuesday, 9th April, 2013, 11:10 PM.
FIDE ratings are virtually useless in Canada for all but a handful of players. Go ahead, tell me how many players in Canada played at least 20 FIDE rated games last year.
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