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It's a silly quote. More often wrong than right. It doesn't explain why Chamberlain who was very familiar with the history of The Great War, allowed himself to be duped by Hitler into a passive stance that was a cause of WW2. Yeah, he knew history. Yeah, he repeated it. Yeah the world repeated another world war. It doesn't explain why the French who knew Germany very well didn't come out of their fortifications to face Hitler when the Nazis crossed the Rhine. Hitler was ready to run back into his hole back then. It doesn't explain why the Japanese, who knew from the Great War that it was better to side with the Allies, decided to switch sides and ally with Hitler. They also knew that if the US got involved they would win any war. Still they provoked the US into entering the war by attacking Pearl Harbour - an attack they botched because they did not wipe out the entire US aircraft carrier force that wasn't even in port. And that was even given that a lot of the Japanese had gone to school in the US! So much for the silly quote. But I guess we are doomed to keep hearing it from hipsters and anyone else who wants to sound profound.
Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Sunday, 5th May, 2013, 09:10 AM.
"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
you are saying
"That was then -- this is now."
Wow, you are putting words in my mouth. Literally. With quotes even. Dislike the presumption behind that.
My answer is go study some actual history. Learn about events and broad themes. Don't just rely on some pithy saying to replace the real study of history. There are many uses and abuses of history. Hitler for example was a wonderful abuser of history.
Or perhaps from my main field of finance I am saying past performance is no guarantee of future success. So be cautious of what you invest in.
Re: Re : Re: Re : Eric Hansen - Officially #1 in Canada!
Reading the tables in the handbook, am I understanding it properly to say that for the IM title, one would need to finish in the top three, while for an FM, one would need a 65% score (i.e. 6/9) in the Zonal?
There hasn't been much discussion on the Canadian forums, but I think they've changed the rules .....
That's what I meant. After reading Vlad's post, I went and checked the handbook and, as of Canada day, 2013, we'll have a new set of rules. I was wondering if I'd interpreted the table in the handbook properly.
Sorry Zeljko, as much as you'd like to believe I spend 23 hours and 55 minutes (5 minutes on chess talk, of course) a day sitting in my ivory tower overlooking Lake Lugano studying chess, I do enjoy history and philosophy quite a bit.
Sorry Zeljko, as much as you'd like to believe I spend 23 hours and 55 minutes (5 minutes on chess talk, of course) a day sitting in my ivory tower overlooking Lake Lugano studying chess, I do enjoy history and philosophy quite a bit.
And as much as you want to imply that I spend a similar time span cleaning out the pig sties in some similarly obscure location, because I apparently didn't recognize or agree with your pithy quote about history (one of the blandest) to your satisfaction - I have heard of philosophy. I'm glad to hear that you enjoy philosophy and history. I'm also quite willing to believe that by now you have mastered chess and so also have time for other things. However, if you simply want to go back over what you've written, I think you might see that you made the implication about who does and doesn't know philosophy.
Perhaps you can one day give a glimpse into some of what you have learned. Perhaps you can explain why people who knew all about the Great War ended up repeating it in the Second World War? If I was to return your quote to some kind of correct statement it would read like this: People who do or don't know history are doomed either to repeat or not repeat it, depending on current circumstances at the time. Not very useful I will grant but at least not a dangerous over simplification.
Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Tuesday, 7th May, 2013, 09:43 AM.
Perhaps you can one day give a glimpse into some of what you have learned. Perhaps you can explain why people who knew all about the Great War ended up repeating it in the Second World War? If I was to return your quote to some kind of correct statement it would read like this: People who do or don't know history are doomed either to repeat or not repeat it, depending on current circumstances at the time. Not very useful I will grant but at least not a dangerous over simplification.
Obviously you still don't understand the meaning of the quote. I think it's time to hang up the skates...
Disagreeing with the quote does not mean I don't understand it. Is this the sort of dogmatic thinking you always apply to discussions like this? I hate to tell you but it is in no way intellectual. It's one of the most banal, silly, over quoted remarks about history which everyone on the planet has heard of by now. Paris Hilton understands it, Brittney Spears has it tattooed on her back side. It's right up there with a stitch in time saves nine, spare the rod spoil the child, madam if I was your husband I would drink it etc. It is supposed to stress how important the study of history is. Study history and you will have a chance of never repeating the same mistakes of the past. So study history and you won't get bogged down in another war like the Iraqi war, sorry I mean Vietnam, sorry I really mean Korean war, or do I mean WW2 or WW1? It's not only not true it is also not helpful.
I'm explaining why I disagree by providing actual historical references. You are just retorting with silly remarks like time to hang up the skates. You must be one of those people that think one liners and pithy quotes are the be all and end all of knowledge. Facebook and Twitter must be a real boon to you; there you can post Einstein and Gandhi quotes (don't even have to be real quotes) and one liners to your hearts content. Impress your friends. So wise, so profound this guy just quoted Einstein and Gandhi, so he must be super smart and a real deep thinker. Paris Hilton is retweeting him, what a guy. I'll have to have a good chuckle about this when I meet my history prof for coffee.
Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Tuesday, 7th May, 2013, 10:47 AM.
Sorry Zeljko, as much as you'd like to believe I spend 23 hours and 55 minutes (5 minutes on chess talk, of course) a day sitting in my ivory tower overlooking Lake Lugano studying chess, I do enjoy history and philosophy quite a bit.
Get back to work Hikaru - we want to see you as World Champion and with a summer home in Canada.:D
Perhaps you can one day give a glimpse into some of what you have learned. Perhaps you can explain why people who knew all about the Great War ended up repeating it in the Second World War? If I was to return your quote to some kind of correct statement it would read like this: People who do or don't know history are doomed either to repeat or not repeat it, depending on current circumstances at the time. Not very useful I will grant but at least not a dangerous over simplification.
Please read over what you wrote here a couple times.
No thanks. You've not shown one shred of historical knowledge, so I think the debate is at an end for me. There is no use discussing history without discussing some history. Or to put it in terms you will understand, as expressed within the Twitter character limit you seem to speak in:
Douse the camp fire, stick a pin in the inflatable doll, take down the volleyball net and let's move on.
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