Pacey Jays Call - Mega Mistake ?

[Bindi Cheng]

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[Nigel Hanrahan]

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Bindi, try to stick to the subject and refrain from personal attacks on other people here. Thanks.

[Rene Preotu]

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[Nigel Hanrahan]

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lol. Here's some cheese to go with your ...

[Bindi Cheng]

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Nigel I don't understand your definition of a personal attack. It's obvious to anyone who read it that I wrote that post as a satire to show what a disrespectful post really looks like. You have such a great sense of humor!

[Duncan Smith]

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The Montreal Expos have a better chance of being re-established into MLB and winning this season's World Series than the Jays do of just making the playoffs.

There, I said it!!!!

Jordan :D

How is that fast track franchise request coming for the Expos ? Were you thinking that the Marlins were coming ?

[Duncan Smith]

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Your benchmark is already a complete failure. And we aren't even at the all star break yet. I warned you nothing truly is clear at all until
the all star game, for many reasons. For starters, its when most teams decide if they are buyers or sellers before the trading deadline.

I'll admit your Yankees still have a shot but if I had to guess I think they may fade second half.

[Gary Ruben]

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This weekends series with Baltimore is a big one. The Orioles have been playing well.

[Bindi Cheng]

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This weekends series with Baltimore is a big one. The Orioles have been playing well.

Chris Davis is a monster this year, hitting just like Bautista when he first broke out. I don't know how long he can keep this up but he's been destroying the Jays so far this year. I think last time we faced them, every time there was a runner on 2nd, we IBBed Davis. The next 10 games against the Orioles, Rays and Red Sox are crucial. I'm hoping for something like 7-3 but realistically speaking, 5-5 or 6-4 would be fine as well. Should be exciting

[Duncan Smith]

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Chris Davis is a monster this year, hitting just like Bautista when he first broke out. I don't know how long he can keep this up but he's been destroying the Jays so far this year. I think last time we faced them, every time there was a runner on 2nd, we IBBed Davis. The next 10 games against the Orioles, Rays and Red Sox are crucial. I'm hoping for something like 7-3 but realistically speaking, 5-5 or 6-4 would be fine as well. Should be exciting

Jays are on a roll, and with recent pitching injuries for Tampa and Boston the timing is not too bad to play them. My main concerns are how Dickey and Wang will pitch, because Dickey can literally be anything this year and Wang I don't know how he'll do once the scouts get a good look at him. I get the feeling Rogers is for real, they only need 5 good innings from him, kind of what they wanted from Happ. I'm not sure what they'll do if Happ and Morrow get healthy. I've been thinking they could trade Johnson/Bonofocio for young talent and still contend if they have 5 healthy starters. Its too bad that Texas is one of their main competitors for playoff chances because Texas has an extra infielder and they might otherwise swing the trade for their own playoff push. Morrow might be done for the season though which changes your depth.

[Gary Ruben]

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Jays are on a roll, and with recent pitching injuries for Tampa and Boston the timing is not too bad to play them. My main concerns are how Dickey and Wang will pitch, because Dickey can literally be anything this year and Wang I don't know how he'll do once the scouts get a good look at him. I get the feeling Rogers is for real, they only need 5 good innings from him, kind of what they wanted from Happ. I'm not sure what they'll do if Happ and Morrow get healthy. I've been thinking they could trade Johnson/Bonofocio for young talent and still contend if they have 5 healthy starters. Its too bad that Texas is one of their main competitors for playoff chances because Texas has an extra infielder and they might otherwise swing the trade for their own playoff push. Morrow might be done for the season though which changes your depth.

I don't think Morrow would change much. He never won more than 11 games in a season and last season was the only one where he had the real low ERA. At some point, and that might be pretty close to now, the Jays have to look at their starters and say, these are our five guys for this season.

Reyes has missed a lot of time and might be rusty. Age isn't on his side. The scouts should know Wang as he's been around a long time. The problem is hitting him because even though he might have lost a bit off his stuff he has the experience to mix his pitches up better.

Chris Davis looks like he's on his way to a 50 HR season. Let's hope he doesn't hit too many against the Jays. The dome is like a launching pad.

[Gary Ruben]

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The heart of the Orioles lineup are: Markakis, Jones, Davis and Hardy. Hardy can really hit them far for a SS.

[Kevin Pacey]

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Your benchmark is already a complete failure. And we aren't even at the all star break yet. I warned you nothing truly is clear at all until
the all star game, for many reasons. For starters, its when most teams decide if they are buyers or sellers before the trading deadline.
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Err... a complete failure of the benchmark would be if the Jays qualify for post-season play by clinching a wildcard spot. That's what the benchmark (9+ games out of the last such spot) specified.

A partial failure would be if the Jays held a wildcard spot temporarily later on, but then lost it and ultimately failed to make the post-season.

If the Jays make the post-season this year, I'll use a picture I have of an extremely goofy animal for my chesstalk avatar until the 2014 Jays regular season starts. I only make gentleman's wagers, but also I have the edge in the current standings, so it would be unfair to ask you to put up a similar symbolic stake. That's even though I'm not sure one or both of us is widely considered to be a gentleman. :D

[Kerry Liles]

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Err... a complete failure of the benchmark would be if the Jays qualify for post-season play by clinching a wildcard spot. That's what the benchmark (9+ games out of the last such spot) specified.

A partial failure would be if the Jays held a wildcard spot temporarily later on, but then lost it and ultimately failed to make the post-season.

If the Jays make the post-season this year, I'll use a picture I have of an extremely goofy animal for my chesstalk avatar until the 2014 Jays regular season starts. I only make gentleman's wagers, but also I have the edge in the current standings, so it would be unfair to ask you to put up a similar symbolic stake. That's even though I'm not sure one or both of us is widely considered to be a gentleman. :D

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"I'll use a picture I have of an extremely goofy animal for my chesstalk avatar until the 2014 Jays regular season starts"
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[Bindi Cheng]

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Jays are on a roll, and with recent pitching injuries for Tampa and Boston the timing is not too bad to play them. My main concerns are how Dickey and Wang will pitch, because Dickey can literally be anything this year and Wang I don't know how he'll do once the scouts get a good look at him. I get the feeling Rogers is for real, they only need 5 good innings from him, kind of what they wanted from Happ. I'm not sure what they'll do if Happ and Morrow get healthy. I've been thinking they could trade Johnson/Bonofocio for young talent and still contend if they have 5 healthy starters. Its too bad that Texas is one of their main competitors for playoff chances because Texas has an extra infielder and they might otherwise swing the trade for their own playoff push. Morrow might be done for the season though which changes your depth.

Dickey can look fantastic at times (Giants) but also horrible as well (Chicago). I don't know what's wrong with him but people have noted that he can't throw his knuckleball as hard as before so that may account for something. He also tends to walk a lot more hitters this year than before, hopefully a problem that can go away as the weather warms up. Yeah I'm not too confident in having Wang pitch on Saturday as he's just getting by on smoke and mirrors but hopefully we won't need him once Morrow comes back. I don't think Boni has much trade value at this point as he's been just awful so far this year although his bat and defence has been picking up as of late. Morrow's actually a fantastic pitcher the past couple years Gary as he has a real nice strikeout ratio and lowered his walk rate every year since his first. People were saying he had trouble pitching out of the stretch (with runners on) and that was why his ERA is so inflated although his XFIP and FIP (fielding independent stats, k rate, walk rate, home run rate) were indicative of an ace pitcher. This year in limited starts, Morrow has an inflated home run ratio on fly balls as compared to previous and a low left on base percentage but with everyone clicking, I'm hopeful he can get back to what he was last year.

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