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Yeah, you. Deliberately trying to stir up shit by using dated, pre-Omicron information.
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
AFAIR ..... the medical people (Or most) never said the vaccination was a magic bullet.
The position almost universally was:
1. The chance of you getting COVID-19 after being vaccinated dropped substantially.
2. For the vaccinated who did catch COVID-19, the severity of the consequences dropped substantially. The chance of hospitalization dropped substantially.
AFAIR ..... the medical people (Or most) never said the vaccination was a magic bullet.
The position almost universally was:
1. The chance of you getting COVID-19 after being vaccinated dropped substantially.
2. For the vaccinated who did catch COVID-19, the severity of the consequences dropped substantially. The chance of hospitalization dropped substantially.
AFAIR ..... the medical people (Or most) never said the vaccination was a magic bullet.
The position almost universally was:
1. The chance of you getting COVID-19 after being vaccinated dropped substantially.
2. For the vaccinated who did catch COVID-19, the severity of the consequences dropped substantially. The chance of hospitalization dropped substantially.
~ Bob A (T-S/P)
Not according to the epidemiology reports from the Gov't of Canada The more doses, the more the immune system gets destroyed. Greatest Crime against humanity ever perpetrated in history.
Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 23rd July, 2022, 07:02 AM.
We have a COVID-19 variant playbook to rapidly assess a variant’s transmissibilityandseverity, and its potential impact on vaccines and treatment.
Press Briefing by White House March 2 2022
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Oopsy oops!
LOOL!
And your point is what? That Walensky, from 03/21 to 03/22, with an additional year of data to look at, amended her point of view? Why is that an "Oopsy oops!" Do you never alter your opinions based on new information?
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
Not according to the epidemiology reports from the Gov't of Canada The more doses, the more the immune system gets destroyed. Greatest Crime against humanity ever perpetrated in history.
Interesting! Thank you for posting that graphic, Sid. A couple of questions for you:
- It would be interesting to see some age data with the bar graphs. For example, could it be the case that the triple vaccinated group contains a higher proportion of people with an age vulnerability than the unvaccinated group, thereby skewing the numbers?
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
The problem with the graph, in my opinion, is that it is using absolute numbers. If the triple vaccinated group has the most no. of people in it (I'm not saying it does; just as an explanation), then obviously it is going to have the greatest number of cases.
The graph we need is # of cases per 1000 persons, so that we can compare the percentages for each separate group.
For transparency, I am certainly no stats expert; but this does seem logical to me.
The problem with the graph, in my opinion, is that it is using absolute numbers. If the triple vaccinated group has the most no. of people in it (I'm not saying it does; just as an explanation), then obviously it is going to have the greatest number of cases.
The graph we need is # of cases per 1000 persons, so that we can compare the percentages for each separate group.
For transparency, I am certainly no stats expert; but this does seem logical to me.
~ Bob A (T-S/P)
It is not absolute numbers; it is per 100,000.
My question to Sid is whether what is true for the 3 week period shown also holds for much larger periods...
Interesting! Thank you for posting that graphic, Sid. A couple of questions for you:
- It would be interesting to see some age data with the bar graphs. For example, could it be the case that the triple vaccinated group contains a higher proportion of people with an age vulnerability than the unvaccinated group, thereby skewing the numbers?
Peter age-stratified data shows the same results in all cohorts , more doses the more the innate immune system is destroyed. Third dose definitely not helpful to the elderly
It is not absolute numbers; it is per 100,000.
My question to Sid is whether what is true for the 3 week period shown also holds for much larger periods...
Dilip the reason we plotted three weeks periods is the Govt Epidemiology reports lump all the data together going all the way back to Dec 20 2020 when almost no one was vaccinated. After five months after the first injection the vaccine efficacy wears off entirely and in fact shows negative efficacy, THe Govt epidemiologist provided an update report every few weeks and they delete the previous ones.
What we did is we went to the Wayback machine and recovered the deleted files and then subtracted those numbers from the current files to break out whatever time slice we want. I have the spreadsheets and links with the calculations if you are interested..
Bottomline since around March 2022 the injections have shown negative efficacy. They do more harm than good, and that is not taking into account their horrific safety profile myocarditis etc.
The injections are neither safe nor effective, and Pfizer et al knew that from the start. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9012513/
Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 23rd July, 2022, 11:58 PM.
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