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  • Originally posted by Fred McKim View Post

    I interpret this data to say that among those experiencing severe adverse events, the fatality rate was 3%. I didn't see any information concerning % of people experiencing these adverse events.

    Here is a random report from a google search that gives an idea how many adverse events per vaccine administered in Ontario

    https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...pdf?sc_lang=en
    Hi Fred,
    I agree with your analysis of "among those experiencing more adverse events", my mistake. However, between November 2020 and Feb 28, 2021 there were about 57 million people vaccinated only with Pfizer and Moderna as J&J was not approved until Mar 1st of 2021. 61% at that time were Pizer. which leaves about 35,000,000 vaxxed and deaths at around .0035% and .14% adverse events.
    Noteworthy is that 1200 deaths even among 35,000,000 subjects is horrific and in the past, any drug with that number of immediate fatalities would have been pulled off the market., As an example, a flu vaccine in 1976 after 100,000,000 vaxxed showed 28 deaths, and the vaccine was immediately pulled off the market. In those days they had an independent safety monitoring board
    The fact that it took a court order to release these facts that have been hidden for a year is criminal. Interestingly the list of adverse events in this report are more serious than the ones in the Ontario document you gave.
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Wednesday, 2nd March, 2022, 11:05 PM.

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    • https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-tr...sWDVuk3Q%3D%3D

      https://medium.com/@bexstrong/big-ph...e-c734a494b776

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...1971221009887#
      Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Thursday, 3rd March, 2022, 01:13 AM.

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      • https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/about/

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        • Spain is the 17th country to go over 100,000 deaths.

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          • Originally posted by Hans Jung View Post
            Spain is the 17th country to go over 100,000 deaths.
            https://www.oraclefilms.com/alettertoandrewhill

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            Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 5th March, 2022, 09:20 AM.

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            • Historic Court Filing.
              https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...t+As+Filed.pdf

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              • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfyO...r.JohnCampbell
                "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber)
                  Last edited by Peter McKillop; Monday, 7th March, 2022, 09:59 PM.
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                  • https://nypost.com/2021/07/16/wikipe...establishment/

                    By the way here are the two papers that Dr. Campbell did a nice job of explaining

                    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...1971221009887#

                    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35070575/

                    Enlighten us, Peter, and tell us what the commentator in this video said that was incorrect.
                    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Tuesday, 8th March, 2022, 02:40 AM.

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                    • Did they publish extended analyzes not just a short abstract? 1000 younger vs 40000 older patients... The conclusion could have been that the older population has more chances of dying too... (Though that is nothing new)
                      Probably there were IVM+remdesivir group too. What are their results on that?


                      Do plastic surgeons have no work anymore?

                      1 University of Miami, Plastic Surgery, Miami, United States
                      2 University of Miami, Urology, Miami, United States
                      3 University of Miami, Plastic Surgery, Miami, United States

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                      • Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

                        Did they publish extended analyzes not just a short abstract? 1000 younger vs 40000 older patients... The conclusion could have been that the older population has more chances of dying too... (Though that is nothing new)
                        Probably there were IVM+remdesivir group too. What are their results on that?
                        Do you ever read anything before opening up your yap?


                        "We controlled for the following demographics, comorbidities, and treatments that may affect COVID-19 survival outcomes: age, gender, race, ethnicity, nicotine use diabetes mellitus, obesity, chronic lower respiratory disease, ischemic heart diseases, tocilizumab, glucocorticoids, or ventilator use. We measured association with mortality as the primary outcome, with significance assessed at p<0.05."

                        https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...1971221009887#

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                        • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

                          Do you ever read anything before opening up your yap?


                          "We controlled for the following demographics, comorbidities, and treatments that may affect COVID-19 survival outcomes: age, gender, race, ethnicity, nicotine use diabetes mellitus, obesity, chronic lower respiratory disease, ischemic heart diseases, tocilizumab, glucocorticoids, or ventilator use. We measured association with mortality as the primary outcome, with significance assessed at p<0.05."

                          https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...1971221009887#
                          If they did that it would have been no problem for them to scale down those 40000 towards 1000 to match ALL criteria and start comparing.

                          "There were a total of 1,761,060 possible COVID-19 patients based on ICD-10 diagnostic terms and confirmatory lab results. Prior to controlling, our analysis yielded 41,608 patients who had COVID-19 resulting in two unique cohorts that were treated with either ivermectin (1,072) or remdesivir (40,536)."

                          What about the rest of 1,761,060 - 1,072- 40,536 ~ 1.3 M cases?

                          "We retrospectively identified adults (≥18 years) with a recorded COVID-19 infection between January 1, 2020 and July 11, 2021."

                          Vaccination cases in those stats?


                          Sid, let us know when they'll publish a full article or provide a full presentation.

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                          • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

                            Do you ever read anything before opening up your yap?
                            Classic Sid, being a dick.
                            As for the graphs of total deaths you posted, even though vaccines were starting to be available in Dec 21, in the US, they were not yet widely available. By the time they were more widely used, (March), the graph levels off. But deaths continued because of people such as yourself, restrictions were lifted, and then the variants started.

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                            • Originally posted by Brian Profit View Post

                              Classic Sid, being a dick.
                              As for the graphs of total deaths you posted, even though vaccines were starting to be available in Dec 21, in the US, they were not yet widely available. By the time they were more widely used, (March), the graph levels off. But deaths continued because of people such as yourself, restrictions were lifted, and then the variants started.
                              Originally posted by Brian Profit View Post
                              But deaths continued because of people such as yourself
                              The overwhelming evidence shows that the Injections do not prevent transmission, infection, or reinfection in those who receive them.

                              1)The CDC Director has admitted that the Injections do not prevent infection or transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that has been identified by various public health agencies as causing the disease known as COVID-19. “W]hat [the vaccines] can’t do anymore is prevent transmission."

                              2) The CDC has acknowledged that the “vaccinated” and “unvaccinated” are equally likely to spread the virus.

                              3). The Injections do not confer immunity but are claimed to reduce the severity of symptoms experienced by those infected by SARS-CoV-2They are, therefore, treatments and not vaccines as that term has always been defined in the law


                              Madeline Holcomb, Fully Vaccinated People Who Get a CoVID-19 Breakthrough Infection Transmit the Virus, CDC Chief Says, CNN HEALTH (August 6, 2021) https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/healt...day/index.html

                              see also The New England Journal of Medicine, Resurgence of SARS-CoV-2 Infection in a Highly Vaccinated Health System Workforce, N ENGL J MED 2021; 385:1330-1332 (September 30, 2021) https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2112981

                              2 Brown CM, Vostok J, Johnson H, et al. Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, Including COVID19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections, Associated with Large Public Gatherings — Barnstable County, Massachusetts, July 2021. MMWR MORB MORTAL WKLY REP 2021;70:1059-1062. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7031e2_w

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                              • Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

                                If they did that it would have been no problem for them to scale down those 40000 towards 1000 to match ALL criteria and start comparing.

                                "There were a total of 1,761,060 possible COVID-19 patients based on ICD-10 diagnostic terms and confirmatory lab results. Prior to controlling, our analysis yielded 41,608 patients who had COVID-19 resulting in two unique cohorts that were treated with either ivermectin (1,072) or remdesivir (40,536)."

                                What about the rest of 1,761,060 - 1,072- 40,536 ~ 1.3 M cases?

                                "We retrospectively identified adults (≥18 years) with a recorded COVID-19 infection between January 1, 2020 and July 11, 2021."

                                Vaccination cases in those stats?


                                Sid, let us know when they'll publish a full article or provide a full presentation.
                                Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
                                What about the rest of 1,761,060 - 1,072- 40,536 ~ 1.3 M cases?
                                You basically asked if the cases were selected to exclude confounding factors, they were, as I already posted. Now you are saying the opposite.

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