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Prediction - US Presidential 2024
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
They claimed that they were democratic and Marxists. The problem Bob, is that Marxists do not remain democratic for long. No one is in greater danger than the people who usher in a Marxist revolution. In the end, there can only be one leader and everyone who is a threat to that leader will die.
Yugoslavia spied on expatriates. They paid people to spy on expatriates. They sent people with diplomatic passports with fake stories to possibly evaluate a target into our home. There was no CSIS back then, so shortly thereafter the RCMP paid us a visit. They assassinated expatriates in Canada, the U.S. and Europe and possibly elsewhere. After Yugoslavia fell my uncle and cousin were allowed to see the files on family members including my father who had a thick file. They were not allowed to copy them but were allowed to take notes. All informants were identified extensively in those files. They fomented dissension among ex-pat communities so that agitators hatched their own death plots. It was an interesting era and contributed to making me who I am.
Some people temporarily profited from the kleptocracy. The good communists that were awarded my grandfather's farm when my grandfather fled because he was told that they were going to kill him and grandmother was thrown in jail had to move their pigs from the barn into the main house. (Do you realize how bad pigs smell?) They were not farmers. They didn't know how to farm. They couldn't run a farm but the authorities expected them to pay taxes at the same rate that the previous owners paid and they too wound up in jail when they didn't produce the required tribute.
Our family was not unique based on everything I have heard from people from Croatia.
Basically Vlad I think your family became victims of political extremism. You might think of it as leftist extremism, but right-wing extremism can produce the same kind of stories. If your family had been in Italy during Mussolini's time.... or in Germany during Hitler's rise .... or in Spain during Franco's revolution ....
But your family was victimized by leftist extremism, and so you are who you are, but maybe you don't realize how limited you are. You should be against ALL extremism, not just left-wing. If you disagree, I'd like to hear from you as to why you think right-wing extremism (fascism) isn't so bad ... ???
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Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
In 2010 there was a court case called Citizen United. The result was to open up the US political system to unlimited dark money. Since then, money has been flooding in and corrupting the system. It has become an auction for buying politicians. Now it is simply a contest between billionaires.
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Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
In 2010 there was a court case called Citizen United. The result was to open up the US political system to unlimited dark money. Since then, money has been flooding in and corrupting the system. It has become an auction for buying politicians. Now it is simply a contest between billionaires.
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Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View PostThere is obviously something wrong in the party system in USA - how could in 2020 the Candidates be elder seniors (Biden/Trump), and then similarly, to start in 2024, the two Candidates were.....drum roll..........Biden/Trump.
Each party had both times some very attractive and competent younger politicians. They were weeded out by each party, or they never got into the primaries.
It seems in Canada, that somehow, younger, good politicians can rise to the top.
Bob A
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Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
Thanks, just got around to reading that article. I very much enjoy listening to Thom Hartmann.
Yes, if they had given Bernie a fair shake back in 2016 or in 2020, if only.......
But every time I mention Bernie, some on chesstalk freak out and call me a communist.
Kamala should have done Joe Rogan podcast, Bernie did 5 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vewj...annel=JREClips
I agree with you that Bernie has correctly identified what the problem in our society has been: "$$ being used to make more $$, and to harm others".
Unfortunately, his so-called solution is equally bad: "rob the rich"; he does not understand that two wrongs do not make a right.
The surest way to prevent $$ from harming others is by diligent enforcement of the Natural Law, and enabling easy access to capital for all!!!Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Monday, 18th November, 2024, 10:07 PM.
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There is obviously something wrong in the party system in USA - how could in 2020 the Candidates be elder seniors (Biden/Trump), and then similarly, to start in 2024, the two Candidates were.....drum roll..........Biden/Trump.
Each party had both times some very attractive and competent younger politicians. They were weeded out by each party, or they never got into the primaries.
It seems in Canada, that somehow, younger, good politicians can rise to the top.
Bob A
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
You are ignoring the fact that the candidate was exceptionally bad with lots of video footage of her saying very dumb things
Americans had no good choices for 2024.
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Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
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Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post
Bob G. here is an analysis article you might be interested to read:
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...on/ar-AA1tRhNX
It seems that Bernie Sanders was the best chance the left ever had to get on the right path,
Yes, if they had given Bernie a fair shake back in 2016 or in 2020, if only.......
But every time I mention Bernie, some on chesstalk freak out and call me a communist.
Kamala should have done Joe Rogan podcast, Bernie did 5 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vewj...annel=JREClips
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Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
Hi Bob.
The phrase you are looking for is "be careful what you wish for, you might just get it"
I am under the weather with a cold, not TDS. Thank god the election is finally over.
I haven't the strength nor the inclination to argue on chesstalk, but have been listening to a variety of voices to understand why my prediction was wrong.
Now that the fever pitch of the election is over, some pundits are giving a more thoughtful analysis of what happened. But some are not.
I was going to share a few nuggets of insight, but my headache is not allowing it.
I will save it for another day.
Relax....hmmmmm
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...on/ar-AA1tRhNX
It seems that Bernie Sanders was the best chance the left ever had to get on the right path, and instead HIllary defended neoliberalism and we are on this path now. Still, there is opportunity ... there is a leadership vacuum coming for the Democrats and meanwhile the red sweep might even be favorable ... in the sense that the next 4 years wiill unleash so much chaos around the world that a Trump admin will be unable to handle and will only exacerbate the financial uncertainty that triggered the anti-Harris/Biden and pro-Trump vote.
Basically that is why I wrote about people of the left curtailing almost all frivolous spending ... to further sink the economy and make things worse for the new administration. But of course no one will actually DO that and so the US deficit will continue to spiral out of control. Eventually the frivolous spending will become necessary because there will be an almost total loss of disposable income for most families. We will see in the next 2 years an insurance-industry led collapse of major magnitude, greater than the mortgage security crisis of 2008. Real estate assets will plummet in value because they will become uninsurable. This isn't just Florida and California -- midwestern states Minnesota, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois -- yes, Illinois! -- are now on a list of states with declining insurance options and increasing insurance costs for home and property owners, and the word "crisis" is already being used even for those states. I forgot to save the link to that article, sorry.
So that is my big prediction for the next 2 years of the red sweep. Property insurance crisis causing domino effect and financial carnage around entire U.S. Hey, give me some respect, I correctly predicted the Trump sweep of the battleground states.
How did I do that? I let go of all personal biases. I didn't predict what I secretly wished for.
It takes courage and clearing of the mind to do that.
If you really want to know why your prediction went wrong ... listen to Tom O'Donnell when he says you were brainwashed by the mainstream media. It wasn't a deliberate act ... they themselves were brainwashed. It was just to EASY to believe a simple notion like Americans doing what is in their own self-interest which was taken to mean preserving democracy and caring about abortion. No ... on election night, on CBS news, they interviewed an auto union member who had just voted. He said he voted Trump, and they asked him why. "He promised to stop taxation on overtime pay." Ok, anecdotal evidence ... but it contains a message that turned out to be overwhelmingly the CORRECT message.
Message: "I'll vote for what improves my wallet .. over and above ANY OTHER thing." And Trump was seen as just that.
This is what the Hispanics did also. They as a conglomerate can no longer be seen as weaned to the Democratic tit. They are now more than ever beyond 1st-gen citizens and they want to branch out and become part of the business economy, so they like hearing Trump's reduction of corporate taxes for one thing. I do believe this shift in Hispanic voting, more than any other single thing, caused Harris to lose the "Blue Wall" and all the battleground states.
All of these people are in for the type of shock that Bob A. posted, and yes, as you said, "be careful what you wish for". Because the policies of Trump will only WORSEN the influences causing the financial stresses in working class families today.
By the way .... speaking of predictions .... this isn't mine, but I thought I'd mention it because it is VERY FAR OUT THERE ....
A Youtube channeler (whose identity I will withhold for now) had this near-term predicition that she says was delivered to her right after the election ....
(1) Joe Biden will either die or become incapacitated before the January 20th inauguration ... well before it, very soon, so that Kamala Harris will briefly become President.
now if you think that is unlikely, here's the kicker....
(2) Donald Trump will die or become incapacitated before the January 20th inauguration ... which means after a brief Kamala Harris Presidency, J.D. Vance will be sworn in as President on January 20th!!!
I agree the odds against this are astronomical ... except that Biden and Trump are both very very old .... :)
If this all comes true, I will reveal the channeler's name and a link to her prediction. I saved it and I downloaded the video of her making the prediction.
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Dilip - I'll check with my naturopath and my osteopathy torturer!
Bob
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