Canada & Conservatism

[Pargat Perrer]

Your unhinged and self-contradictory rant is nothing more than a desperate attempt to distort every point I’ve made while burying any semblance of rational debate under layers of strawmen, falsehoods, and juvenile name-calling. Let’s address your incoherent arguments one by one.

1. "Millions had to lose their shirts before we could have today’s internet?"


Yes, risk-taking drives progress—this is a basic economic truth, not the cartoonish “disaster fetish” you’ve concocted. The dot-com bubble wasn’t a disaster; it was an overinvestment period that ultimately paved the way for foundational infrastructure, innovation, and companies like Amazon, Google, and eBay. It is the very nature of market evolution: some ventures succeed spectacularly, others fail, but collectively they propel progress. Pretending this is somehow equivalent to glorifying human suffering, as in WWII or the COVID pandemic, is a grotesque misrepresentation. Stick to economics, not melodramatic conflations.

2. “Grameen America is based on donations.”


Wrong again. Yes, Grameen America solicits donations to expand its programs, but the core of its operations is microloans, funded through repayments and reinvestments, not endless handouts. The organization’s ability to sustain operations and expand is proof of its efficacy, not evidence of fraud as you baselessly imply. Your conspiracy theory about creative accounting and interest payments funding other loans is as absurd as it is unfounded. If you have evidence, present it—otherwise, spare us the amateur auditing.

3. "Grameen Bank’s high-interest rates are exploitative."


Microloans inherently carry higher interest rates because the administrative costs for small loans are disproportionately large. The difference is that these loans empower borrowers to generate sustainable income, unlike predatory payday loans or credit cards. Borrowers are not coerced; they opt in because they see value in the opportunity. If you genuinely cared about exploitation, you’d focus on predatory practices in developed nations, not organizations lifting millions out of poverty

.4. "Microfinance is sexist because it targets women."


This argument is as shallow as it is disingenuous. Microfinance institutions target women because studies show they are more likely to repay loans and invest in their families and communities, generating long-term social and economic benefits. Men are not excluded from microfinance globally—Grameen Bank and others have male borrowers—but the emphasis on women addresses systemic inequities in access to capital. Branding this as “sexist” ignores the evidence and reeks of bad-faith contrarianism.

5. “Libertarians want to destroy the world to enable microfinance.”


The absurdity of this claim speaks for itself. Libertarianism advocates free-market solutions, reduced government interference, and decentralization of economic power. Microfinance fits this model by enabling individuals to access capital without reliance on bloated bureaucracies. The suggestion that libertarians want to create disasters to justify microfinance is pure fantasy—akin to a conspiracy theorist’s fever dream. If you’re going to argue against libertarianism, at least engage with its principles honestly.

6. "Taxation is stealing because libertarians want to hoard wealth."


Ah, the old trope. Libertarians argue that voluntary exchange is more efficient and ethical than coercive systems like taxation. Microfinance aligns with this philosophy because it decentralizes capital allocation, bypassing government inefficiency. Claiming libertarians want to starve public services while hoarding wealth is a lazy caricature, not a serious argument. The Grameen model shows how private systems can achieve public good—something your statist worldview refuses to acknowledge.

7. "Provide an example of easy access to capital not for the asset-less."


Done. In developed markets, Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFIs) and Small Business Administration (SBA) loans provide accessible capital to entrepreneurs with limited collateral. Additionally, venture capital, angel investing, and crowdfunding platforms enable startups to raise funds without requiring traditional assets. The Grameen model is one example among many—none of which require the apocalyptic scenarios you invent.


Your rant is the pathetic whimper of a small mind drowning in its own ignorance. You have proven, beyond any doubt, that you are utterly incapable of contributing anything meaningful to this discussion—or likely any discussion. Your reliance on insults, misrepresentations, and fabricated conspiracies isn’t debate; it’s the sad flailing of someone too insecure to admit they don’t know what they’re talking about.

You’re not a critic or a thinker—you’re a parasite. You latch onto conversations with the sole purpose of spreading your toxic bile, hoping the sheer volume of your nonsense will mask your lack of coherence. It doesn’t. Every word you spew drips with desperation, a desperate attempt to feel relevant in a world that has long since passed you by.

Your obsession with twisting my words into some grotesque parody of your own making reveals the depth of your intellectual bankruptcy. You aren’t here to understand or engage; you’re here to attack because that’s all you know how to do. It’s painfully obvious that you don’t even believe half the garbage you’re spewing—you’re just scrambling for attention like a child throwing a tantrum when they realize no one is watching.

Here’s the harsh truth: you are irrelevant. Your opinions don’t matter because they are not grounded in reality. Your arguments are not taken seriously because they are not arguments—they are the incoherent ravings of someone who thrives on antagonism and nothing else. You’re not challenging ideas; you’re embarrassing yourself.

Do yourself a favor: stop typing, step away from the keyboard, and take a long, hard look in the mirror. The person staring back at you is not the intellectual warrior you imagine—it’s a bitter, insignificant troll whose only claim to fame is their ability to waste the time of people far more informed and capable than you could ever hope to be. You’re not a voice in the debate—you’re the static no one listens to.



It’s remarkable, really, that someone who sees humanity as a 'cancer' has so thoroughly lived up to their own metaphor—parasitic, toxic, and contributing nothing of value. If you genuinely believe that mankind is a cancer, then it’s no surprise you dedicate yourself to being the most malignant example possible. After all, you’re not here to build, create, or inspire; you’re here to corrode and tear down.

But here's the irony you can never escape: people like you—pessimists, nihilists, and self-styled misanthropes—are the very thing humanity consistently overcomes. While you wallow in your cynical little bubble, others innovate, collaborate, and improve the world despite voices like yours screaming into the void. You’ve made yourself the living embodiment of stagnation, while the rest of us move forward.

So go ahead—cling to your 'cancer' analogy. All it does is expose the fact that you’ve chosen to be the disease, while others strive to be the cure."

You are projecting onto me everything that you feel about YOURSELF. Don't agree? (I knew you wouldn't) then read on ....

Who is spending hours a day putting together posts for ... chess players in Canada ... who care about international affairs ... an audience of about 3 to 5 people .... posts that make claims of a secret cabal led by Bill Gates ... a cabal who wants ALL OF US DEAD asap .... a cabal that created the Covid virus in the hopes of wiping us all out ....

Who is doing that? Is it me? No F**king way It is YOU.

And who is making posts to the very same audience that says that all the once-in-a-thousand-years storms and wildfires and floods that are ravaging the planet month after month for the past several years are simply nature taking its course and that we should not curb greenhouse gases but instead should INCREASE THEM?

Is it me? No f**king way. It is YOU.

And who is putting posts to the very same audience saying that microfinance of loans up to $2,500 to unemployed women in USA and to destitute farmers in Bangladesh is a MODEL for the future of ALL business finance throughout the world? No more collateral needed, you will own nothing and be happy....

Is it me? No f**king way. It is YOU.

What I am posting is only in response to your ridiculous, reality-avoiding, fictional nonsense. I put the TRUTH against your bs.

So who is looking in the mirror and seeing total irrelevance? Is it me? No f**king way. It is YOU.

AN AUDIENCE OF 3 TO 5 PEOPLE. At least that's about the number of people who bother to even respond. Any others who read your posts don't even bother to respond. There's nothing noteworthy for them.

WHO is parasitic, "spreading toxic bile, hoping the sheer volume of your nonsense will mask your lack of coherence", and contributing nothing of value?

Who is part of the cancer spreading among humanity?

It is YOU. You can fool some of the people some of the time ... but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

You really can't stand that I've figured out your game, the game of all the hard-right people who glorify "freedom" for the masses but really want it all to themselves.

by the way, the point you made about "reinvestment" of Grameen Bank earnings .... exactly to my point! Where are those earnings coming from? The borrowers and their 21% interest payments! No wonder the Grameen Bank is 90% owned by the borrowers. Their interest payments go to fund other borrowers ... it's a classic Ponzi scheme. Such schemes can run for long periods when there are so many desperate newcomers to add to the rolls ... but eventually it all collapses as the base of the pyramid runs dry of funds ..... which seems to be starting now as almost 20% of Grameen Bank borrowers are 5 to 10 months in arrears, as per their own financial statements.


Oh, and thanks for confirming your belief that millions have to die, maybe billions, for us to advance humanity into the next age of advancement ... which is reserved for the millionaires and billionaires who have purchased underground bunkers to survive the coming purge .....

[Pargat Perrer]

PeePee tried very hard and long to find a fault with Sid's post, and when he couldn't, he resorted to a LIE.
All Sid said was that from the drive to start internet based companies, arose Amazon and Google. The stock market bust had nothing to do with it, as it was old-style rotten capitalism, in which companies could be created only to scam unsuspecting investors in the stock market. As Bob A. happily celebrated in one of his posts here, stock markets are not essential in Libertarianism, where the key to economic growth is 'easy access to capital' via enforcement of repayment of loans plus interest, not gambling in the stock-market...

Sad's exact words:

"The dot-com boom led to transformative companies like Amazon and Google"

but he used the word "boom" when it actually turned 'BUST" a very convenient omission, hmmmm?

The boom came AFTER the bust ... but it cannot be taken as fact that the bust HAD TO HAPPEN for their to be a boom afterwards.

[Dilip Panjwani]

Polievre as Mini-Trump

The Conservative Leader has long been a student of the anti-establishment currents that swept Trump into office in the first place.

It could be that their similar voter coalition, a shared anti-conventional approach to politics, and individual promises to put their respective countries first in any global dialogue might rekindle the flames of the old “bromances” between Canadian prime ministers and U.S. presidents past.

The value of friendships in politics, after all, is not to be understated. The Liberals used a “Team Canada” approach to the last Trump presidency, leveraging personal contacts and hustling hard to build more. Poilievre’s Tories already have a big one built in: Conservative MP Jamil Jivani’s relationship with Trump’s vice-president-elect, JD Vance. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#in...xTbJZspWFrgMJC Any CT'er thoughts on this comparison? Bob A (Democratic Marxist)

Hey Bob, are you hinting that the bromance could lead to Canada becoming the great 51st state?

[Sid Belzberg]

You are projecting onto me everything that you feel about YOURSELF. Don't agree? (I knew you wouldn't) then read on ....

Who is spending hours a day putting together posts for ... chess players in Canada ... who care about international affairs ... an audience of about 3 to 5 people .... posts that make claims of a secret cabal led by Bill Gates ... a cabal who wants ALL OF US DEAD asap .... a cabal that created the Covid virus in the hopes of wiping us all out ....

Who is doing that? Is it me? No F**king way It is YOU.

And who is making posts to the very same audience that says that all the once-in-a-thousand-years storms and wildfires and floods that are ravaging the planet month after month for the past several years are simply nature taking its course and that we should not curb greenhouse gases but instead should INCREASE THEM?

Is it me? No f**king way. It is YOU.

And who is putting posts to the very same audience saying that microfinance of loans up to $2,500 to unemployed women in USA and to destitute farmers in Bangladesh is a MODEL for the future of ALL business finance throughout the world? No more collateral needed, you will own nothing and be happy....

Is it me? No f**king way. It is YOU.

What I am posting is only in response to your ridiculous, reality-avoiding, fictional nonsense. I put the TRUTH against your bs.

So who is looking in the mirror and seeing total irrelevance? Is it me? No f**king way. It is YOU.

AN AUDIENCE OF 3 TO 5 PEOPLE. At least that's about the number of people who bother to even respond. Any others who read your posts don't even bother to respond. There's nothing noteworthy for them.

WHO is parasitic, "spreading toxic bile, hoping the sheer volume of your nonsense will mask your lack of coherence", and contributing nothing of value?

Who is part of the cancer spreading among humanity?

It is YOU. You can fool some of the people some of the time ... but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

You really can't stand that I've figured out your game, the game of all the hard-right people who glorify "freedom" for the masses but really want it all to themselves.

by the way, the point you made about "reinvestment" of Grameen Bank earnings .... exactly to my point! Where are those earnings coming from? The borrowers and their 21% interest payments! No wonder the Grameen Bank is 90% owned by the borrowers. Their interest payments go to fund other borrowers ... it's a classic Ponzi scheme. Such schemes can run for long periods when there are so many desperate newcomers to add to the rolls ... but eventually it all collapses as the base of the pyramid runs dry of funds ..... which seems to be starting now as almost 20% of Grameen Bank borrowers are 5 to 10 months in arrears, as per their own financial statements.


Oh, and thanks for confirming your belief that millions have to die, maybe billions, for us to advance humanity into the next age of advancement ... which is reserved for the millionaires and billionaires who have purchased underground bunkers to survive the coming purge .....

Who is spending hours a day putting together posts for ... chess players in Canada ... who care about international affairs ... an audience of about 3 to 5 people .... posts that make claims of a secret cabal led by Bill Gates ... a cabal who wants ALL OF US DEAD asap .... a cabal that created the Covid virus in the hopes of wiping us all out ....

I wasn’t aware I needed your permission to spend my time as I see fit. It’s fascinating that you’re so preoccupied with where I post and what I discuss and speculate about how much time it takes me—almost as if my contributions bother you. Maybe instead of obsessing over my choices, you could try focusing on something productive for a change. Just a thought.

As for your statement about Bill gates I certainly agree is he is part of cabal but does not lead it. I have never stated he wants "All of us dead ASAP" he himself has stated he only wants a 15% world wide population reduction (!) and that goal would be achieved with the help of a "really great vaccine". He states this himself at the beginning of the video. The US congressional report on Covid19 released a few weeks agrees that sarscov2 was indeed created in a lab in Wuhan through gain of function research. This Wuhan lab research was funded by Bill Gates in addition to even201 at Johns Hopkins University in October 2019 a plandemic rehearsal that was identical to the real plandemic, oh my I guess Bill Gates must be genius to predict and fund the rehearsal for a once in a century "Pandemic" that comes to pass. few months later, what a brainwashed ignorant creep trolling leftard you are.

https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/...letop-exercise

Here is Bill Gates history along with his family history replete with his eugenicist father obsessed with population control and long time Rockefeller associate.

https://plandemic.com/the-real-bill/

Who is doing that? Is it me? No F**king way It is YOU.

And who is making posts to the very same audience that says that all the once-in-a-thousand-years storms and wildfires and floods that are ravaging the planet month after month for the past several years are simply nature taking its course and that we should not curb greenhouse gases but instead should INCREASE THEM?

Is it me? No f**king way. It is YOU.

Your claim of 'once-in-a-thousand-years' storms and wildfires lacks any scientific basis. Extreme weather has always been part of Earth's natural cycles, driven by factors far more complex than CO₂ alone. Please provide evidence, not exaggerated soundbites."

CO₂ at 455 ppm is geologically low and nowhere near levels that would jeopardize the planet. Life thrived at much higher concentrations throughout Earth’s history, and below 155 ppm, plant life—and by extension, all life—would collapse. Demonizing CO₂ without context reveals a lack of understanding of basic junior high school biology.

The legacy MSM media lied for months about polls that were proven as such as even the Democratic parties own internal polls showed they were losing. To your credit you saw this but when it comes to all the other lies and propaganda the legacy MSM pushes out you swallow hook line and sinker like the good little leftard brainwashed slave completely devoid of any critical thinking.

Earth has almost always been hotter & wetter but this has nothing to do with carbon dioxide. We're far more likely to be facing a 100m year ice age. CO2 doesn't control the climate, a globalist scam. CO2 gives nutrition & oxygen from its ancient symbiosis with cellular life.

1. "Let’s be clear: microfinance isn’t trying to replace all business finance. It’s a targeted tool that gives those excluded from traditional banking systems a chance to build a future. You dismiss it, but how exactly would the world be better without it? Millions lifted out of poverty might disagree with you."
2. "Mocking the concept of helping unemployed women and destitute farmers is easy when you sit behind a keyboard and contribute nothing yourself. Microfinance has empowered millions of people to create businesses, support their families, and transform their communities. What have you done lately?"
3. "Your ‘you will own nothing’ trope is a lazy distortion. Microfinance is about empowering people to own more—their businesses, their futures, and their lives. It’s the opposite of the dystopian nonsense you’re peddling."

The world needs more solutions like microfinance, not less. But maybe it’s easier for you to sneer at progress such as Nobel prize winning concepts than to contribute to it.
Yes who needs google, we have the low IQ demented Mr Pargault Fucking Bonhamperer barfing up his nonsense and lies thinly disguised as pearls of wisdom.

[Pargat Perrer]

I wasn’t aware I needed your permission to spend my time as I see fit. It’s fascinating that you’re so preoccupied with where I post and what I discuss and speculate about how much time it takes me—almost as if my contributions bother you. Maybe instead of obsessing over my choices, you could try focusing on something productive for a change. Just a thought.
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No, you certainly don't need my permission ... but let's just say that whenever someone of a certain level of prominence uses his time to post messages on a VERY VERY innocuous little chess forum ... and the time involved seems to make no sense, for the supposed audience for these posts is way out of proportion to what this individual SHOULD be doing with his time if he cared more about personal gains .... like every good businessman does .... who is not up to less selfish interests ....

well let's just say that "suspicions arise". Using such an innocuous site for coded messaging to other ... ??? ... entities who can read these messages as guest, supposedly untracked ... ??? ... is not unheard of and is something that may be looked for and may indeed be tracked by ... certain ... other entities. and let's just say .... that it might have been allowed at this stage to plant that little seed in your .... brainwashed rightard brain.

Or ... maybe not. Maybe I just made all that up. Either way, it is VERY SUSPICIOUS what you are doing. You don' t need permission, but it certainly LOOKS like more than just messaging a few chess players in Canada ....

Your claim of 'once-in-a-thousand-years' storms and wildfires lacks any scientific basis. Extreme weather has always been part of Earth's natural cycles, driven by factors far more complex than CO₂ alone. Please provide evidence, not exaggerated soundbites."

CO₂ at 455 ppm is geologically low and nowhere near levels that would jeopardize the planet. Life thrived at much higher concentrations throughout Earth’s history, and below 155 ppm, plant life—and by extension, all life—would collapse. Demonizing CO₂ without context reveals a lack of understanding of basic junior high school biology.

The legacy MSM media lied for months about polls that were proven as such as even the Democratic parties own internal polls showed they were losing. To your credit you saw this but when it comes to all the other lies and propaganda the legacy MSM pushes out you swallow hook line and sinker like the good little leftard brainwashed slave completely devoid of any critical thinking.

Earth has almost always been hotter & wetter but this has nothing to do with carbon dioxide. We're far more likely to be facing a 100m year ice age. CO2 doesn't control the climate, a globalist scam. CO2 gives nutrition & oxygen from its ancient symbiosis with cellular life.

Says the man who does not live in reality ... the man who decides for all of us what constitutes scientific evidence and what doesn't ... the emporer who wears no clothes ....

specifically, this statement: "CO₂ at 455 ppm is geologically low and nowhere near levels that would jeopardize the planet. Life thrived at much higher concentrations throughout Earth’s history" is very clever in what it does NOT say ...

such higher levels might not "jeopardize the planet" but would assuredly jeopardize HUMAN life on the planet, especially modern humans most of whom live in densely packed cities next to large bodies of water. And the life that thrived at such high CO2 levels was CERTAINLY not modern humans.

You leave out these important points .... I wonder why?

1. "Let’s be clear: microfinance isn’t trying to replace all business finance. It’s a targeted tool that gives those excluded from traditional banking systems a chance to build a future. You dismiss it, but how exactly would the world be better without it? Millions lifted out of poverty might disagree with you."
2. "Mocking the concept of helping unemployed women and destitute farmers is easy when you sit behind a keyboard and contribute nothing yourself. Microfinance has empowered millions of people to create businesses, support their families, and transform their communities. What have you done lately?"
3. "Your ‘you will own nothing’ trope is a lazy distortion. Microfinance is about empowering people to own more—their businesses, their futures, and their lives. It’s the opposite of the dystopian nonsense you’re peddling."

The world needs more solutions like microfinance, not less. But maybe it’s easier for you to sneer at progress such as Nobel prize winning concepts than to contribute to it.
Yes who needs google, we have the low IQ demented Mr Pargault Fucking Bonhamperer barfing up his nonsense and lies thinly disguised as pearls of wisdom.

Again ... it is YOU and not I who chose to use microfinance as an example for Peter McKillop of "easy access to capital". Now you are contradicting yourself and saying it is NOT meant to replace all business finance. WELL, WHICH IS IT? because if it is meant to be the implementation model for easy access to capital, then we must ALL be "excluded from traditional banking systems" because that is NECESSARY for microfinance to work.

I specifically said I do not criticize what microfinancing does ... for it's intended users. I criticize shitbrains like you who say it will become the standard for EVERYONE for easy access to capital under a Libertarian government.

of COURSE you are going to lie and say I am against empowering destitute farmers and unemployed women ... it's so easy to tell that lie. BUT IT IS INDEED A LIE and your use of it only exposes how empty you are of any truly original and creative thinking. You prefer to attack the messenger than the message, something you hypocritically rant against when others do it to you.

[Dilip Panjwani]

The Grameen Bank model will become the standard for EVERYONE for easy access to capital under a Libertarian government.

Yes it will, of course with some modifications. The interest rate should reflect the inflation plus a little, and enforcement of repayment should be a given. Smart people like Tom O'Donnell would then not need to take risks in the stock market, but be able to safely make loans to companies which need to develop...

[Sid Belzberg]

No, you certainly don't need my permission ... but let's just say that whenever someone of a certain level of prominence uses his time to post messages on a VERY VERY innocuous little chess forum ... and the time involved seems to make no sense, for the supposed audience for these posts is way out of proportion to what this individual SHOULD be doing with his time if he cared more about personal gains .... like every good businessman does .... who is not up to less selfish interests ....

well let's just say that "suspicions arise". Using such an innocuous site for coded messaging to other ... ??? ... entities who can read these messages as guest, supposedly untracked ... ??? ... is not unheard of and is something that may be looked for and may indeed be tracked by ... certain ... other entities. and let's just say .... that it might have been allowed at this stage to plant that little seed in your .... brainwashed rightard brain.

Or ... maybe not. Maybe I just made all that up. Either way, it is VERY SUSPICIOUS what you are doing. You don' t need permission, but it certainly LOOKS like more than just messaging a few chess players in Canada ...

Your bizarre fixation on how I choose to spend my time is as inappropriate as it is laughable. Let’s get one thing clear: you don’t get to dictate how I allocate my energy, what I prioritize, or where I engage. Your desperate attempt to shoehorn me into some caricature of a "businessman only focused on personal gain" is not just false—it’s delusional.

Are you seriously suggesting that posting on a chess forum is part of some coded conspiracy? This is pure tinfoil-hat-level nonsense. The fact that your mind immediately jumps to "coded messaging" and "being tracked by entities" tells me far more about your paranoia than anything about me. Do you also believe the moon landing was faked or that Elvis is alive? Your delusions are spiraling into absurdity.

Here’s the reality: I post on forums to discuss topics of interest, exchange ideas, and engage with others. The only thing “suspicious” here is your compulsive need to obsess over my choices. If anyone should be worried about being tracked, it’s you—for spending so much time watching and speculating about what others do with their lives.

Who are you to decide how I spend my time? You’re not my boss, my parent, or my keeper. If you think someone of "prominence" (your word, not mine) should be devoting their life to nothing but financial gain, that’s your shallow worldview—not mine. Believe it or not, not everyone defines their life by the size of their bank account or their so-called "personal gains."

Your assumption that every "good businessman" must always chase money reveals how little you understand about ambition, success, or balance. Unlike you, I don’t live in a bubble where all pursuits are measured by their financial returns. Some of us care about contributing to meaningful conversations, exploring ideas, and making a difference beyond personal enrichment—something you clearly can’t comprehend.

Your entire argument is a monument to your insecurities. You cannot fathom that someone might care about ideas, community, or contribution more than shallow self-interest, so you invent paranoid fantasies to justify your petty, baseless attacks. You aren’t questioning my priorities—you’re exposing your own irrelevance.

Let me make this crystal clear:
I will spend my time however I damn well please. Whether that’s posting on a chess forum, discussing global issues, or engaging in debates you clearly can’t handle, it’s none of your business. The fact that you’re so preoccupied with my choices says far more about your lack of fulfillment and purpose than it does about me.

So, while I continue to engage with ideas that matter, you can go back to fabricating conspiracies, wallowing in paranoia, and shouting into the void. Just know that your obsessive bitterness changes nothing—it only makes you look smaller. If this is how you choose to spend your time, you might want to take a hard look in the mirror and reassess who’s truly wasting their life.

You should seek help; I mean really, peddling conspiracies about coded messages on a chess forum? You are nuts!

Says the man who does not live in reality ... the man who decides for all of us what constitutes scientific evidence and what doesn't ... the emporer who wears no clothes ....

specifically, this statement: "CO₂ at 455 ppm is geologically low and nowhere near levels that would jeopardize the planet. Life thrived at much higher concentrations throughout Earth’s history" is very clever in what it does NOT say ...

such higher levels might not "jeopardize the planet" but would assuredly jeopardize HUMAN life on the planet, especially modern humans most of whom live in densely packed cities next to large bodies of water. And the life that thrived at such high CO2 levels was CERTAINLY not modern humans.

You leave out these important points .... I wonder why?

Your attempt to frame CO₂ as the apocalyptic villain of climate change is as baseless as it is desperate. The fact is, recent peer-reviewed research confirms that the oceans are the primary drivers of Earth’s climate, regulating temperatures and dominating the greenhouse effect through their control of water vapor, the most significant greenhouse gas. CO₂, on the other hand, constitutes a mere 0.04% of the atmosphere, with human contributions amounting to less than 1% of that. Your obsession with this trace gas as the "control knob" for climate is not supported by science but by flawed, overhyped models that consistently fail to align with real-world observations.

Your claim that higher CO₂ levels would "assuredly jeopardize human life" is both scientifically baseless and laughably melodramatic. CO₂ has been significantly higher throughout most of Earth's history, during which life—including the ancestors of modern species—thrived. What threatens humanity isn’t CO₂ but our own failure to adapt to natural climate variability driven by oceans, solar activity, volcanic processes, and complex atmospheric interactions—none of which you seem capable of grasping. Your unwillingness to engage with the science of water vapor’s dominance over the greenhouse effect, or the oceans’ critical role in regulating climate, exposes the shallow fear-mongering that underpins your argument.

As for your claim that I’m selectively omitting points, let’s address the real omission here: the complete absence of evidence in your argument. You parrot the same tired talking points about CO₂ without even attempting to explain how flawed models, riddled with exaggerated assumptions, have become the cornerstone of your worldview. Meanwhile, empirical data shows that climate systems are far more complex than your simplistic fixation on CO₂. If you truly believe humanity’s survival hinges on reducing this trace gas, then I’d suggest you start by understanding basic climate drivers—not perpetuating scientifically ignorant hysteria.

Here’s the harsh truth: your argument isn’t about science—it’s about clinging to a narrative that feeds your delusions of moral superiority while ignoring reality. The only "emperor with no clothes" here is you, parading your ignorance as though it’s insight. If this is the best you can muster, you’ve not only lost the argument but revealed just how deeply you misunderstand the subject you claim to debate. Keep shouting into the void; the rest of us will be busy discussing the real science.

Again ... it is YOU and not I who chose to use microfinance as an example for Peter McKillop of "easy access to capital". Now you are contradicting yourself and saying it is NOT meant to replace all business finance. WELL, WHICH IS IT? because if it is meant to be the implementation model for easy access to capital, then we must ALL be "excluded from traditional banking systems" because that is NECESSARY for microfinance to work.

I specifically said I do not criticize what microfinancing does ... for it's intended users. I criticize shitbrains like you who say it will become the standard for EVERYONE for easy access to capital under a Libertarian government.

of COURSE you are going to lie and say I am against empowering destitute farmers and unemployed women ... it's so easy to tell that lie. BUT IT IS INDEED A LIE and your use of it only exposes how empty you are of any truly original and creative thinking. You prefer to attack the messenger than the message, something you hypocritically rant against when others do it to you.

Your response is a mess of contradictions and strawman arguments, so let’s clear things up. First, I have never said that microfinance is meant to replace all business finance. It is a targeted tool to provide easy access to capital for those excluded from traditional banking systems, like destitute farmers and unemployed women. The fact that you twist this into a claim that microfinance should replace all business finance only exposes your inability—or refusal—to engage with nuance. Microfinance is not a one-size-fits-all model, nor has anyone suggested it should be.

Second, your admission that you "do not criticize what microfinance does for its intended users" is directly at odds with your sneering dismissal of it in earlier comments. You can’t have it both ways—claiming to support microfinance while deriding its success as a means of economic empowerment for millions. Your argument about "everyone being excluded from traditional banking systems" is an absurd exaggeration; microfinance addresses a specific gap, not a universal need.

Third, your claim that I’m "lying" about your position is as baseless as it is predictable. You’re not against empowering destitute farmers and unemployed women? Then why mock the very mechanism that has been proven to help them? Your hostility toward microfinance isn’t a critique—it’s bitterness masquerading as an argument.

I have no problem viewing man as a cancer

Clearly you do not have a problem with this.

[Pargat Perrer]

Your bizarre fixation .... blah blah blah .

I am starting to think you are in some nursing home and have been for several years. You obviously have little contact with the real world. You deny there are "once-in-a-thousand-years" happening anywhere when they are becoming a regular monthly / weekly occurrence somewhere in the world.

And now you say that coded messaging on an innocuous forum is a tin-foil-hat kind of idea.

Where have you BEEN, Sad? Where where you on 9/11? Where you you when they arrested Harvey Weinstein? Or Bernie Madoff?

Believe it when I tell you, coded messages on an innocuous forum is the LEAST of the worries of many entitities that work behind the scenes so that you, in your arrogance, can claim "I will do whatever I damn well please with my time". You can thank your goddamn lucky stars that you are in USA and can make a claim like that ... but there are entities who want to bring it all down, and there are other entities trying to stop them.

I have not said you shouldn't be posting on Chesstalk. What I've alerted you to is that by doing so, and spending so much of your time in doing so, and because of who you are, you are raising red flags. If you are, as you claim, not worrying about maximizing your business earnings and are instead just poking around on the internet all day and night, fine ... but because it is so unusual for someone of your status, the red flags are there. Don't yell at me about it if you don't like it.

These entities who protect you and your fellow citizens pay attention to stuff like this. So if you think you are not possibly being tracked ... you should reconsider. Of course, if you are just doing what you say you are doing, you can breathe easy, and should be thankful that such entities are bothering with such red flags, because if they weren't, 9/11 would have happened again by now.

Ever hear of ISIS? How about North Korea? Iran? Russia? China? Where have you BEEN Sad?

It is so laughable how you characterize this monitoring done by these entities as a "tin foil hat" idea ... when you yourself are proposing a top secret international cabal out to kill 85% of humanity, a Big Pharma industry that is secretly out to inject us with toxic vaccines under the guise of trying to cure pandemics, and you propose that a huge group of climate scientists are secretly working together to create a false narrative that we need to move to renewable energy asap so that whole industries, including agriculture, can be SHUT DOWN to speed up the killing of the 85%.

Who is wearing the tin foil hat? Is it me? No f**king way. It is YOU.


Hey Peter McKillip, if you are reading this, you can officially disregard Sad's earlier posting giving microfinance and Grameen Bank as an example of Libertarianism's universal "easy access to capital". Sad is now distancing himself from this notion, understandably so. Which means there IS NO EXAMPLE anywhere in the world of a banking model that can offer "easy access to capital" to anyone who walks in the door with ANY KIND of business idea. The big commercial banks around the world are NOT going to be doing this. They will be doing their normal due diligence to make sure a very high percentage of loans will get repaid.

The only modern example of such a concept was, as I have repeated often, the dot-com boom that preceded the dot-com bust which happened in year 2000. In that pre-bust boom, money was handed over to anyone with any kind of e-commerce idea, no matter what was being sold. And I shouldn't have to tell you how it all worked out.


and again, to be clear, my "hostility against microfinance" is not that at all ... it is hostility that microfinance can be offered up as a means for "easy capital for all" in the future. It can only do so if "all" are destitute and no longer have regular financing available, which is possibly what Sad wants ... just like Klaus Schwab.

EDIT: OH, almost forgot .. a link to show Sad evidence of the "once-in-a-thousand-years" weather disasters appearing like popcorn in an air popper as the air heats up ...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/real...te/vi-AA1vKITW

That's Florida, and of course Sad knows about Bangladesh ... and about Spain .... need I go on? Nah, Sad has all day and night to do his own research ....

[Sid Belzberg]

I have not said you shouldn't be posting on Chesstalk. What I've alerted you to is that by doing so, and spending so much of your time in doing so, and because of who you are, you are raising red flags. If you are, as you claim, not worrying about maximizing your business earnings and are instead just poking around on the internet all day and night, fine ... but because it is so unusual for someone of your status, the red flags are there. Don't yell at me about it if you don't like it.

No, this has nothing to do with you trying to give me advice , you insanely suggested that I am using this forum to send encoded messages.

when you yourself are proposing a top secret international cabal out to kill 85% of humanity, a Big Pharma industry that is secretly out to inject us with toxic vaccines under the guise of trying to cure pandemics

As i already stated this is what Bill Gates said, not me.Show me where I said "85% of humanity". Stop putting words in my mouth Paul.

Yes, he also funded the rehearsal at John's Hopkin's as I already stated

https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/...letop-exercise

OH, almost forgot .. a link to show Sad evidence of the "once-in-a-thousand-years" weather disasters appearing like popcorn in an air popper as the air heats up

Nothing to do with human produced C02s Methane, or Nitirogen gasses. Water vapour & clouds dominate the atmosphere- ocean currents control the weather. Carbon dioxide does neither. The climate scam has it wrong on purpose. The UN has a vested interest in its dishonest boiling climate scam based on fake science. It's about money, power & control.

Hey Peter McKillip, if you are reading this, you can officially disregard Sad's earlier posting giving microfinance and Grameen Bank as an example

Peter has already stated that he has a visceral dislike and disrespect for you. Are you daft? Come to think of it pretty much everyone on this chess forum hates you. You are like a piece of shit on the bottom of a shoe that we can't seem to quite scrape off.

i have no problem viewing man as a cancer

Geez I can't imagine why everyone here can't stand you.Yes i remember "you don't give a Pig's fart" about
being universally hated here. You are a universally despised unaccomplished brainless troll here, get lost.

[Bob Armstrong]

Post # 69 above (Part) by Sid Belzberg:

[Negative Climate Change has] Nothing to do with human produced C02s Methane, or Nitirogen gasses. Water vapour & clouds dominate the atmosphere- ocean currents control the weather. Carbon dioxide does neither. The climate scam has it wrong on purpose. The UN has a vested interest in its dishonest boiling climate scam based on fake science. It's about money, power & control.



To me, and I admit I am no expert, this is rather startling, as someone who has been an Anthropogenicist.

I will do further research (Though it may take time to determine if Sid's facts are accurate, and if they are, if there is more to this issue than just these facts).

But I will post what I find under the "Negative Climate Change" thread.

Bob A

[Bob Gillanders]

Post # 69 above (Part) by Sid Belzberg:

But I will post what I find under the "Negative Climate Change" thread.

Bob A

Thanks Bob. Some interesting Canadian politics happening now, and I got excited to see you had posted on this thread.
But then I see just more off topic bickering and climate change graphics. Disappointing.
Guys, "don't cross the streams", have we learned nothing from ghostbusters.

[Pargat Perrer]

No, this has nothing to do with you trying to give me advice , you insanely suggested that I am using this forum to send encoded messages.

LOL I wouldn't waste time on advice to such a hardened extremist wearing blinders like you do, totally unaware of all the climate disasters spreading around the globe, and when being made aware, saying "Oh, that's water vapor" with a cute little pie chart from .... ????

Reminds me of Trump saying ultraviolet light up the ass would solve the pandemic.

what I specifically said was, anyone could be being tracked on this site for coded messages, and you would have more red flags than anyone else. Do you have shareholders? Would they approve of all the time you are spending here?

As i already stated this is what Bill Gates said, not me.Show me where I said "85% of humanity". Stop putting words in my mouth Paul.

I'm not going to search through your posts, but I do remember one where you told us all that the cabal "wants us all dead". One could easily imagine a figure like 85% of humanity from that statement.

Peter has already stated that he has a visceral dislike and disrespect for you. Are you daft? Come to think of it pretty much everyone on this chess forum hates you. You are like a piece of shit on the bottom of a shoe that we can't seem to quite scrape off.

...

Geez I can't imagine why everyone here can't stand you.Yes i remember "you don't give a Pig's fart" about
being universally hated here. You are a universally despised unaccomplished brainless troll here, get lost.

I am so far advanced from you in spiritual matters, I do not need to care about hate. It only exists here in this physical plane.

It is a thankless job to help educate people about extremist viewpoints like yours. I myself do not post extremist views, I put the truth to extremist bs. If others want to hate because of that, I am not bothered by it.

[Frank Dixon]

I have heard, via the grapevine in Kingston (sources in the local Conservative Party), that Kingston Mayor Dr. Bryan Paterson will NOT be seeking the federal Conservative nomination for Kingston and the Islands. Recent media reports in Kingston floated the idea of Paterson seeking the nomination for the next federal election, which must be called by October, 2024. Paterson still has almost two years left in his current term as Mayor,; he was first elected as Mayor in 2014, and served on Council for four years starting in 2010. He is also a tenured professor of economics at Royal Military College in Kingston, and indeed occupies the same office there as the late Dr. James Cairns, the Grand Old Man of Kingston Chess, who died in 2010.

Paterson, had he run and won the Tory nomination, would still face a tough election battle against Liberal Mark Gerretsen, the current three-term MP, and also former Kingston Mayor (2010-2014). No one named Gerretsen has ever lost an election in Kingston, dating back to 1972. Mark's father John served 8 years on Council (1972-80), 8 years as Mayor (1980-88), and 19 years as provincial MPP (1995-2014), including several Cabinet terms. He stepped down in 2014.

Were Paterson to be elected as MP for Kingston, he would be a likely Cabinet minister in a future Tory government, which is looking more probable by the day, with the federal Liberals in high disarray, following this Monday's Cabinet resignations.

[Dilip Panjwani]

A hard-working Anesthesiologist from India sent this to me on whatsapp :


*Catching Wild Pigs*

Karl Marx once said- "Remove one freedom per generation. Soon you will have no freedom left and no one would have even noticed."

One day while the class was in the laboratory, a Professor noticed a young man kept rubbing his back and stretching,
as if his back hurt.

The Professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him that he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting Communists in his native country, who were trying to overthrow his country's Government and install a new Communist regime.

Then, the student looked at the Professor and asked a strange question-

_*"Do you know how to catch wild Pigs ?"*_

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punchline. The young man said that it was no joke at all.

"You catch wild Pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting Corn on the ground. The Wild Pigs find the Corn and begin to come every day to eat the Free food.

When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence on one side of the place where they are used to coming regularly.

At first, the Wild Pigs are scared, but when they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence.

They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.

The Pigs, which are used to the Free Corn, start to come through the gate to eat that Free Corn again. Then you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.

Suddenly, the wild Pigs have lost their freedom. They run around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the Free Corn.

They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity and they are slaughtered thereafter."

The young man then told the Professor-
"That is exactly what is happening in many countries today.

The Governments keep pushing the people towards Socialism and keep spreading the Free Corn out in the form of programmes such as Free Rations, Free Electricity, Tax credits, Caste Benefits, Farm subsidies, Welfare Schemes, Free entitlements, Free medicines, while the people continually lose their freedom, just a little bit at a time."

One should always remember a simple Truth:

*There is no such thing as a Free Lunch*

If you think that the Free Ride is essential to your way of life, then God help you when the gates slam shut !

Most of the problems we are facing today, are because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living!

Familiar ??

*Think.......*

[Vlad Drkulec]

A hard-working Anesthesiologist from India sent this to me on whatsapp :


*Catching Wild Pigs*

An excellent parable for the socialists among us.