Canada & Progressives

[Frank Dixon]

Question:
What is the main difference between Pierre Trudeau as prime minister, and his son Justin Trudeau as prime minister?
Answer:
Pierre wanted to build a Just Society, and Justin wanted to build a Justin Society!!!

[Bob Gillanders]

Americas - Canada

Liberal Government upcoming Budget



Labelled as an "Austerity" Budget

Do CT'ers agree that NOW is a good time for "Austerity (Decreasing the "deficit" usually means cutting services to middle/low income Canadians)"?

Bob A (Democratic Marxist)

It really depends on what you are spending the money on.
Spend money on the good stuff, don't spend money on the bad stuff.
I know that's a bit vague, LOL.
But, in a nutshell, do the opposite of whatever Trump is doing!

[Bob Armstrong]

Americas - Canada

Liberal Government upcoming Budget



Labelled as an "Austerity" Budget

Do CT'ers agree that NOW is a good time for "Austerity (Decreasing the "deficit" usually means cutting services to middle/low income Canadians)"?

Bob A (Democratic Marxist)

[Dilip Panjwani]

Trudeau over Carney - Yes


Bob A

OMG! All that inflation, causing suffering mainly amongst the poor, did not bother you!!

[Bob Armstrong]

Repeating my Post # 102 above

I'd love to hear opinions on: The Liberal Party is still "progressive"??



"Do you think the Liberals should still be using the term "Progressive" to describe their new platform (Pipelines, military, etc.)?
IMHO, the Liberals have moved right of centre. But they cannot outflank the Conservatives, because they have now moved to the fringe right."

Bob A

[Bob Armstrong]

Since we are polling:

Trudeau over Carney - Yes

Mamdani over Cuomo - Yes

Ford over Polievre - Yes

Magnus - Yes over everyone......though the young turks are nipping at his heels now!

Bob A

[Bob Gillanders]

I guess you would have preferred a Mamdani instead of Carney. Is that right?

I prefer Mamdani over Cuomo, and Carney over Trudeau.

[Dilip Panjwani]

Canadian Liberal Minority Government



IMHO, the Liberals have moved right of centre. But they cannot outflank the Conservatives, because they have now moved to the fringe right.

Do you think the Liberals should still be using the term "Progressive" to describe their new platform (Pipelines, military, etc.)?

Bob A (Democratic Marxist)

I guess you would have preferred a Mamdani instead of Carney. Is that right?

[Bob Armstrong]

Canadian Liberal Minority Government



IMHO, the Liberals have moved right of centre. But they cannot outflank the Conservatives, because they have now moved to the fringe right.

Do you think the Liberals should still be using the term "Progressive" to describe their new platform (Pipelines, military, etc.)?

Bob A (Democratic Marxist)

[Dilip Panjwani]

My entire life, we have been told Capitalism is the greatest, and everything else is just evil.
The world is a little more complex than that simplistic approach. Dilip appears still to be captured by that narrative.

Not at all. I have pointed out major flaws with Capitalism as it exists today. And I have repeatedly said that what one earns should not have to depend on how much one has made in the past, but on what one is able to do now in terms of smart, hard and useful work.
The remedy to poverty amongst the very few truly unfortunate individuals & families is Charity, which Democratic Marxism does not pay attention to... DM only recommends bribing its 51% voters with what it forcefully snatches away from the other 49%!

[Bob Armstrong]

Democratic Marxism is not yet fully developed, as is Democratic Socialism (France under Mitterand) and Old-Style USSR Communism (A bastardization of the thought of Marx by Lenin).

So we still have time to try to build in safeguards against the flaws of the past in both these systems, since there are commonalities with Democratic Marxism.

We are looking outside our own politics, for help in improving this new economic/political system.

Bob A (Democratic Marxism)

[Vlad Drkulec]

The system you are advocating has failed every time it has been tried and perhaps 100 million people were murdered in the 20th century but this time it will work when it has never worked in the past. I guess we could all afford to lose some weight.

Ozempic is going to be a lot cheaper in Canada soon because someone didn't dot the "i's and cross the t's".

[Bob Gillanders]

Well said Bob A.

My entire life, we have been told Capitalism is the greatest, and everything else is just evil.
The world is a little more complex than that simplistic approach. Dilip appears still to be captured by that narrative.

While it sounds like Vlad is maybe sneaking a peek at the other end of the bookshelf. :)

The key problem with Capitalism is the tendency for all wealth to accumulate at the top, just like it does in the game of monopoly.

I think the long term answer is some form of hybrid economic system, which doesn't exist as yet.

Oh well, just a quick coffee break for me, back to the rating update.

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Vlad:

My Opinion:

The experts, and the general public, intuitively realize that something is not going right with our vaunted Capitalism, in any of its varieties...too many problems, and becoming more intractable (Wealth/Income Gap).

They are becoming open to seeing whether there is another economic system, not that is perfect, but simply better (Especially on "equality").

Bob A (Democratic Marxist)

[Vlad Drkulec]

I have noticed quite a few books promoting socialism and communism have come on sale on kindle lately.