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  • #16
    Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    I wonder why Mulcair isn't front and centre opposing that instead of worrying about the Toronto Mayor. Maybe the votes for him are in supporting that legislation.
    "In Saskatoon, meanwhile, NDP leader Tom Mulcair didn’t mince words when he condemned Quebec’s proposed values charter, calling it “completely unacceptable.”

    Seems pretty clear.

    The PQ have a history of floating trial balloons, especially when they're having problems, that are later dropped anyway. And Marois' government is a minority one. They will need the support of the Provincial Liberals to pass this.

    The PMO also made the point that this is something to be debated provincially, and they will, if necessary, challenge the legislation via the courts. I wonder if that sort of action will alienate the Conservative base?
    Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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    • #17
      Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

      Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
      You're the one who brought up the ideology.
      Actually, I brought up his policies of austerity (for others, not himself or the well-to-do) not his ideology.

      When Mayor Ford himself talks about his drunken stupor(s) - during which he smoked crack cocaine - I'm not sure how productive talking about his ideology would be in any case.

      As Stephen Colbert put it,

      Rob Ford can't change the past. He can't even remember the past. I mean, what part of "drunken stupor" does the media not understand?
      Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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      • #18
        Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

        Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
        "In Saskatoon, meanwhile, NDP leader Tom Mulcair didn’t mince words when he condemned Quebec’s proposed values charter, calling it “completely unacceptable.”
        What Mulcair says in Quebec in French would impress me more.
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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        • #19
          Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

          Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post

          Actually, I brought up his policies of austerity (for others, not himself or the well-to-do) not his ideology.
          He won on those policies. It was his platform. What part of that gives you problems or don't you understand?
          Gary Ruben
          CC - IA and SIM

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          • #20
            Re : Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

            Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
            What Mulcair says in Quebec in French would impress me more.
            He said exactly the same in French :)

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            • #21
              Re: Re : Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

              Stephen Harper will solve the Rob Ford problem.
              He will appoint him to the Senate!
              TWO problems solved in ONE move!!
              In Toronto, No more Rob Ford - in Ottawa, no more Senate.:D (in a short while)

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              • #22
                Re: Our mayor

                Rob Ford may be 'your' Mayor, but he is not 'my' Mayor, thank heavens!

                They say that truth is stranger than fiction, and this situation is a great example of that! :)

                Here's a little verse that sums it up:
                Toronto -- world-class city, no doubt;
                Rob Ford -- world-class buffoon, no doubt!

                Toronto deserves much better, but those hundreds of thousands of Torontonians who supported Ford for Mayor in 2010 shouldn't be surprised; his behaviour before he became Mayor was often outrageous as well. They have gotten what they deserved.

                Ford is running dangerously close to a complete meltdown, it seems. Every week seems to bring more outrageous revelations. It came out in the media this week that the Toronto Police have been wanting to interview him since August, to assist with their investigations, which reach into drug rings and organized crime, but he has declined. This is an aspect that hasn't been emphasized enough.

                Probably best would be a motion from Toronto City Council asking him to resign or take a leave of absence, and if that doesn't get him out, then the provincial government needs to step in.

                OK, so describe Rob Ford in ten words or less!
                Here is my synopsis:
                Obese crackhead dope-smoking right-wing bullying Toronto Mayor with criminal friends. :)

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                • #23
                  Re: Re : Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

                  Originally posted by Felix Dumont View Post
                  He said exactly the same in French :)
                  That's good. The coverage of Ford should not be used to mask what is happening in Quebec. It looks like Fascism to me.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                  • #24
                    Re: Our mayor

                    Originally posted by Frank Dixon View Post
                    Probably best would be a motion from Toronto City Council asking him to resign or take a leave of absence, and if that doesn't get him out, then the provincial government needs to step in.
                    Yes, he needs help, badly, and confessions of crack smoking while he's in a "drunken stupor" don't provide him with an excuse; this is just more evidence of his problems.

                    OK, so describe Rob Ford in ten words or less!
                    Here is my synopsis:
                    Obese crackhead dope-smoking right-wing bullying Toronto Mayor with criminal friends. :)
                    How about: "a perfect distraction from the conservative austerity policies killing society" ? That's from commentator Humberto Dasilva.

                    I don't really agree with criticizing him just because he's overweight, and while it may be amusing to see a bully get his comeuppance by such ongoing self-inflicted public humiliation, the joke is also on the people of Toronto and Ontario for putting such a person in a position of public trust.
                    Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Our mayor

                      You picked an odd hobby in chess, Frank. I used to direct correspondence chess tournaments in Canada and worldwide which had players in prisons.

                      Maybe you think players never showed up to play a tournament chess game drunk or high.
                      Gary Ruben
                      CC - IA and SIM

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                      • #26
                        Re: Re : Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

                        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                        ... what is happening in Quebec. It looks like Fascism to me.
                        Quebecers had a "quiet" revolution following "the great darkness" of the fascist Premier, Maurice Duplessis. I think they know how to deal with such dictatorial politics. Just look at the pounding that the students gave former Premier Jean Charest, following his attempt to impose a cruel austerity regime on them. Charest is now out of politics altogether. I'd say that's pretty decisive. We could learn a think or two from them in the rest of Canada (RoC).
                        Last edited by Nigel Hanrahan; Friday, 8th November, 2013, 12:50 PM. Reason: involuntary retirement of Charest
                        Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Re : Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

                          Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                          Quebecers had a "quiet" revolution following "the great darkness" of the fascist Premier, Maurice Duplessis. I think they know how to deal with such dictatorial politics. Just look at the pounding that the students gave former Premier Jean Charest, following his attempt to impose a cruel austerity regime on them. Charest is now out of politics altogether. I'd say that's pretty decisive. We could learn a think or two from them in the rest of Canada (RoC).
                          Give us a break! Charest had a good run in politics. After the Mulroney debacle when the Cons went from a majority to a mere two ridings Charest was one of the two. He went on to be the leader of the PC party. I remember being at the mall once and listening to one of his speeches when he was running to be the Prime Minister. It was a coincidence I was there but I stood around and listened. His bus was late coming.

                          After that he went into Quebec politics. He became the Liberal premier of Quebec where he had a good run for about a decade.

                          You do realize in another 40 or 50 years, if it takes that long, Quebec will have their own country. Their proportion of the their total population as a percentage of the nation will keep dropping and the only argument will be over how much land they get. In the latest seat distribution the percentage of Quebec influence in parliament will drop. Ontario, Alberta and B.C. will increase much more.
                          Gary Ruben
                          CC - IA and SIM

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                          • #28
                            Re : Re: Re : Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

                            Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                            Quebecers had a "quiet" revolution following "the great darkness" of the fascist Premier, Maurice Duplessis. I think they know how to deal with such dictatorial politics. Just look at the pounding that the students gave former Premier Jean Charest, following his attempt to impose a cruel austerity regime on them. Charest is now out of politics altogether. I'd say that's pretty decisive. We could learn a think or two from them in the rest of Canada (RoC).
                            That's more or less true... The PQ was among the first to propose a raise in tuition fees. After seeing how many people were opposed to it, they did change their mind however. Not so long after though, right before the elections, they changed their mind again and announced that they were in favour of a smaller raise.
                            If Quebecers cared about education, they would have never elected this government. After all, the PQ made unprecedented cuts in education. At McGill, one of our biggest libraries was closed by them and many professors/researchers were fired by the budget cuts.

                            The truth is that most Quebecers have no idea of what they want.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

                              Originally posted by Felix Dumont View Post
                              The truth is that most Quebecers have no idea of what they want.
                              I think that's true in Ontario as well.

                              Probably people know what they don't want and then they don't like the government they elect as a result.
                              Gary Ruben
                              CC - IA and SIM

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                              • #30
                                Re: Re : Re: Rob Ford skewered like a shish kebab ...

                                Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                                You do realize in another 40 or 50 years, if it takes that long, Quebec will have their own country.
                                It may be more likely that Canada will be absorbed or assimilated into the USA and Quebec will be all that's left of Canada. They might even keep the name for old time's sake.
                                Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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