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  • #46
    Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

    Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
    If you check that crosstable for 1968 there is an "Armstrong" from Sarnia who scored 5.5 and ended up in 86th place...
    [ I vivdly recall losing to Vranesic in Round 1 and never really recovering from that - lol - I ended up with 4.5 and 115th place ]
    I was pretty disappointed with my performance in that event. It was a clear indicator I couldn't take years off from serious events and score well. So, when I realized I couldn't play anymore, I did what most others who come to that realization do. I decided to organize. :D

    Anyhow, I really enjoyed the years I organized at the Scarborough Club and I hope the members also enjoyed it.

    I also enjoyed the years I worked for correspondence chess, nationally and internationally. I have to tell you there were two or three players who absolutely hated me. Mostly I pretended not to notice.
    Gary Ruben
    CC - IA and SIM

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    • #47
      Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

      Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
      I also played in that 1968 Canadian Open.
      There were a lot of us on chesstalk who played in that. For my part, it seems Kerry was the only one I was paired against. I probably still have the score sheet around somewhere.
      Gary Ruben
      CC - IA and SIM

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      • #48
        1968 Can Op (Toronto)

        Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
        Yes, 1968 Canadian Open was at Hart House... not sure about the one before.

        I found the crosstables from the 1968 and 1970 CO on my home machine... inspecting the file indicates that I downloaded it from:

        http://www3.telus.net/public/swright2/canop6870.html

        (and INDEED the crosstables are still there! This is part of an archive maintained by Stephen Wright in B.C. - publisher of the BCCF bulletin...)

        If you check that crosstable for 1968 there is an "Armstrong" from Sarnia who scored 5.5 and ended up in 86th place...
        [ I vivdly recall losing to Vranesic in Round 1 and never really recovering from that - lol - I ended up with 4.5 and 115th place ]
        Hi Kerry:

        Thanks. Nice to know my memory isn't always shot to h***! I see that was 11 rounds at the time! I'm pleased to have gotten 50%. Think my rating at the time was likely only in the mid-1600's? Anyone have the 1968 Oct. Canadian Chess Chat.......is there a ratings list in the back? If so, would you mind telling me if I'm close on my rating in 1968 (before or after the 1968 CO?)?

        By the way.......are there rating lists somewhere in the CFC database this far back?

        Bob A

        P.S. I was in pretty high-flying company in the first three rounds! Had forgotten....Rd. 1 Defeated Ignas Zalys of Montreal; Rd. 2 Lost to Peter Murray of London (finished with 7 pts.); Rd. 3 Lost to Sammy Kleinplatz of Montreal (finished with 7 pts.) .......
        Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Monday, 15th December, 2014, 06:40 PM.

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        • #49
          1966 Can Op (Kingston)

          Since this thread has had a minor hijack into Canadian Open cross-table research......can anyone tell me how I find the cross-table for the first Canadian Open I played in.....1966 Kingston?? And how I might find my 1966 CFC Rating (before and after the CO)?

          Thanks.

          Bob

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          • #50
            Re: 1966 Can Op (Kingston)

            Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
            Since this thread has had a minor hijack into Canadian Open cross-table research......can anyone tell me how I find the cross-table for the first Canadian Open I played in.....1966 Kingston?? And how I might find my 1966 CFC Rating (before and after the CO)?

            Thanks.

            Bob
            http://www3.telus.net/public/swright...6466.html#1966

            Armstrong 4.5-5.5, 73rd out of 116, but no ratings given.

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            • #51
              Re: 1966 Can Op (Kingston)

              Click on Canadian Open Championships under National Materials at http://bcchesshistory.com/. For the rating I will have to do some digging - the 1967 list is at http://chess.ca/sites/default/files/...01july1967.pdf.

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              • #52
                Re: 1966 Can Op (Kingston)

                Originally posted by Stephen Wright View Post
                Click on Canadian Open Championships under National Materials at http://bcchesshistory.com/. For the rating I will have to do some digging - the 1967 list is at http://chess.ca/sites/default/files/...01july1967.pdf.
                The 1967 and 1968 Ratings Booklets are both there -- use the Ratings menu at the CFC site and select Players -> Historical CFC Ratings & Northern Issues. A direct link is http://chess.ca/northern

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                • #53
                  Re: 1966 Can Op (Kingston)

                  Originally posted by John Cordes View Post
                  The 1967 and 1968 Ratings Booklets are both there -- use the Ratings menu at the CFC site and select Players -> Historical CFC Ratings & Northern Issues.
                  I didn't have a rating in either of the booklets.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                  • #54
                    Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

                    The October 1966 issue of "Canadian Chess Chat" has the "1st Revision to the 13th Rating List - October 1st, 1966". The Canadian Open is listed as one of the rated events, but Bob's name doesn't appear. Not enough rated games, maybe?
                    Not on the 2nd revision (Jan. 1, 1967) either. Nor on the 3rd revision (April 1, 1967), nor in the annual booklet (July 1, 1967). Not on the 1st or 3rd revisions (1968 - no 2nd revision in Chess Chat).
                    On the 3rd 1968-69 revision (April 1, 1969), Armstrong, R from Sarnia had a rating of 1736. 1770 on the Oct. 1, 1969 revision.

                    Gary is not listed on the CCCA rating list for Jan. 31, 1967 (published in the Feb. 1967 "Chess Chat). He is 1823 on the Oct. 1, 1969 revision (OTB ratings).

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                    • #55
                      Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

                      Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
                      Gary is not listed on the CCCA rating list for Jan. 31, 1967 (published in the Feb. 1967 "Chess Chat). He is 1823 on the Oct. 1, 1969 revision (OTB ratings).
                      Surely you mean CFC rating list. Sure makes me wonder what happened to the rating points from events I won years before. Not rated, I suppose.
                      Gary Ruben
                      CC - IA and SIM

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                      • #56
                        Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

                        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                        There were a lot of us on chesstalk who played in that. For my part, it seems Kerry was the only one I was paired against. I probably still have the score sheet around somewhere.
                        LOL - I might have to dig myself... wonder if you played the French?
                        It is actually quite possible I might have played the French! (I was fond of it then...)
                        From the cross table I cannot tell which colour I had for our game. I cannot recall what
                        colour I had against Vranesic but I seem to imagine it was white.
                        ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                        • #57
                          Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

                          Gary wrote:

                          Surely you mean CFC rating list. Sure makes me wonder what happened to the rating points from events I won years before. Not rated, I suppose.
                          Definitely a CCCA list. Bohatirchuk was highest rated at 1906 (that's when postal ratings were several hundred points below OTB ratings).

                          In the 1965 rating booklet, Gary is rated 1623.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

                            I don't recall the opening or colours and I can't find the score sheet. It will probably show up when I'm looking for something else.

                            I have hundreds of score sheets around, mostly CC. I used to play 40 to 50 games at a time. Always a recipe for hanging a piece.
                            Gary Ruben
                            CC - IA and SIM

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                            • #59
                              Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

                              Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
                              Gary wrote:



                              Definitely a CCCA list. Bohatirchuk was highest rated at 1906 (that's when postal ratings were several hundred points below OTB ratings).

                              In the 1965 rating booklet, Gary is rated 1623.
                              Earlier you wrote:

                              Gary is not listed on the CCCA rating list for Jan. 31, 1967 (published in the Feb. 1967 "Chess Chat). He is 1823 on the Oct. 1, 1969 revision (OTB ratings).
                              If I'm understanding this, you're saying I'm not listed on the CCCA rating list in 1967 which makes sense but I am listed in 1969 for CFC.
                              Gary Ruben
                              CC - IA and SIM

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                              • #60
                                Re: Strongest Chess Playing Siblings?

                                Gary wrote:

                                If I'm understanding this, you're saying I'm not listed on the CCCA rating list in 1967 which makes sense but I am listed in 1969 for CFC.
                                Yes.

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