History in the making?

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  • #31
    Re: History in the making?

    Qiyu gets White tomorrow against Oliwia in the game that could well decide the Gold Medal. The loser can not possibly catch up to the winner in the final round since the head-to-head result is the 1st tie-break. The only other girl within a 1/2 point of Qiyu and Oliwia is the #2 seed, Alexandra Obolentseva, from Russia. If Qiyu can win with White tomorrow and draw with Black in the final round, she's the Gold Medal winner (:

    http://www.chess-results.com/tnr1442...flag=30&wi=984

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    • #32
      Re: History in the making?

      Originally posted by Jack Maguire View Post
      If Qiyu can win with White tomorrow and draw with Black in the final round, she's the Gold Medal winner (:
      Actually, that might not be good enough to win.

      I think TB is number of wins, so if Qiyu and Obolentseva tie with 9/11, then Obolentseva gets the title by virtue of having won (and lost) more games.

      An idiotic TB system, IMHO, for a non-professional event where the players don't have to be discouraged from making GM draws.... but that's FIDE.

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      • #33
        Re: History in the making?

        Originally posted by John Upper View Post
        Actually, that might not be good enough to win.

        I think TB is number of wins, so if Qiyu and Obolentseva tie with 9/11, then Obolentseva gets the title by virtue of having won (and lost) more games.

        An idiotic TB system, IMHO, for a non-professional event where the players don't have to be discouraged from making GM draws.... but that's FIDE.
        If Qiyu and Alexandra Obolentseva both win tomorrow, John, then they would obviously be paired Monday in the final round. Given Qiyu would have 8.5/10 and Alexandra 8.0/10, a draw would clearly give Qiyu the Gold Medal. A win tomorrow and a draw Monday apodictically gives Qiyu the Gold Medal (:

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        • #34
          Re: History in the making?

          I agree the TB is idiotic, but then what TB isn't.
          The point is that Qiyu has her fate in her own hands. She has two games left against two very strong opponents. If she wins both, she is world champion. Good luck to Qiyu.
          P.S. "apodictically"??? Very cool.
          Last edited by Gordon Ritchie; Saturday, 27th September, 2014, 07:56 PM.

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          • #35
            Re: History in the making?

            Originally posted by Gordon Ritchie View Post
            I agree the TB is idiotic, but then what TB isn't.
            The point is that Qiyu has her fate in her own hands. She has two games left against two very strong opponents. If she wins both, she is world champion. Good luck to Qiyu.
            While Qiyu clearly has her fate in her own hands, Gordon, I iterate that a win tomorrow and a draw Monday apodictically (: gives Qiyu the Gold Medal.
            Last edited by Jack Maguire; Saturday, 27th September, 2014, 08:52 PM.

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            • #36
              Re: History in the making?

              Qiyu, the #4 seed at the start, is now the highest rated girl still in the hunt for Gold. And the near 140 gap (as highlighted by Gordon Ritchie) between the top seed (no longer in the hunt for Gold), Polina Shuvalova, and Qiyu has shrunk to a mere 24.2 points since Qiyu has gained 49.6 points in Durban while Polina has lost 63.2 FIDE points. Qiyu has also passed the 2nd and 3rd seeds in live rating and would be the #2 live seed, behind only the aforementioned Polina whom Qiyu beat today.

              Live FIDE ratings of the 3 current medal leaders are:

              Qiyu Zhou 2168.6
              Oliwia Kiolbosa 2128.9
              Alexandra Obolentseva 2136.2

              http://www.chess-results.com/tnr1442...flag=30&wi=984

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              • #37
                Re: History in the making?

                Originally posted by Jack Maguire View Post
                While Qiyu clearly has her fate in her own hands, Gordon, I iterate that a win tomorrow and a draw Monday apodictically (: gives Qiyu the Gold Medal.
                A win tomorrow and a win on Monday make the CFC president breathe much easier. Qiyu seems to play better against stronger opponents and she has been playing very nicely of late. We all wish her luck and two more good games.

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                • #38
                  Re: History in the making?

                  Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                  A win tomorrow and a win on Monday make the CFC president breathe much easier. Qiyu seems to play better against stronger opponents and she has been playing very nicely of late. We all wish her luck and two more good games.
                  You're now the 3rd poster, Vlad, that cites this 2 wins fabrication. I iterate, a win tomorrow with White and a draw Monday with Black gives Qiyu the Gold Medal. No ifs, ands, or buts (:

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                  • #39
                    Re: History in the making?

                    Originally posted by Jack Maguire View Post
                    You're now the 3rd poster, Vlad, that cites this 2 wins fabrication. I iterate, a win tomorrow with White and a draw Monday with Black gives Qiyu the Gold Medal. No ifs, ands, or buts (:
                    Sometimes its easier to win than it is to draw. Also it is easier to get a draw from a clearly winning position so lets not put ideas of a draw out there. Besides with K=40 its clearly better to get a win.

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                    • #40
                      Re: History in the making?

                      Qiyu has already attained a distinction of note in Durban. Her FIDE card shows her as the #11 ranked U14G in the world, the highest ranked Canadian in any age category. Qiyu's will now be listed in FIDE's Top Ten U14G when the October list comes out next week (assuming the WYCC gets rated in time). She currently sits #5 and could quite possibly pass Polina for #4.

                      1. Zhansaya Abdumalik, Kazakhstan, 2319 (no September tournament)
                      2. Gunay Mammadzada, Azerbaijan, 2316 (no September tournament)
                      3. Stavroula Tsolakidou, Greece 2306 (picked up 56 points at the Isthmia Open -2014)
                      4. Polina Shuvalova, Russia 2193 (currently minus 63 points at the WYCC)
                      5. Qiyu Zhou, Canada 2169 (currently plus 50 points at the WYCC)

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                      • #41
                        Re: History in the making?

                        Here's a 9 minute and 47 second YouTube interview with a 12-year-old Qiyu (and 14-year-old Linda Shi). Qiyu also plays Shogi, Korean chess, Thai chess, Go, and Scrabble. She would crush me in all those games except for Scrabble (:

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LPttFoedPA
                        Last edited by Jack Maguire; Sunday, 28th September, 2014, 07:33 AM.

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                        • #42
                          Re: History in the making?

                          Another draw today and Qiyu remains tied for first with 8/10. One more round to go!

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                          • #43
                            Re: History in the making?

                            Today's draw complicates matters greatly since Qiyu's destiny is no longer totally within her own control. And tomorrow's pairings are a bit problematic. Should Qiyu win tomorrow, she wins Gold unless Oliwia also wins, leaviing them still tied. Since they drew one another and have the same number of wins, the next tie-break is Median Buchholz. At the moment, Qiyu and Oliwia have the same Median Buchholz score, but Oliwia picks up a 1/2 point in that calculation since she plays Alexandra Obolentseva (7.5) and Qiyu plays Anastasia Kozina (7.0). Polina Shuvalova losing again today really hurt Qiyu in that regard since Oliwia never played Polina. Qiyu would need her 7 opponents that Oliwia hasn't played to outscore the 7 opponents of Oliwia that Qiyu didn't play by at least a 1/2 point tomorrow to equal that Median Buchholz score.

                            And should Qiyu only draw tomorrow, she can only win Gold if Oliwia also draws Alexandra. A win by either Oliwia or Alexandra (in conjunction with a Qiyu draw) gives them the Gold since Alexandra has more wins and wins any tie-break. And if both games are drawn, then there's the same Median Buchholz problem cited supra.

                            We can of course hope that Qiyu wins and Alexandra wins or draws her game in which case Qiyu is clear 1st and doesn't have to worry about that damn Median Buchholz.

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                            • #44
                              Re: History in the making?

                              There are 2 key games tomorrow that may go a long way to determining that Median Buchholz tie-break number should Qiyu and Oliwia remain tied for 1st tomorrow. On board 8, the top seed, Polina Shuvalova, who's having a brutal tournament, shedding 98 FIDE points, plays the #19 seed and fellow Russian, Svetlana Tishova. Polina factors into Qiyu's Median Buchholz while Svetlana into Oliwia's, so we should really be hoping for Polina to regain her form tomorrow. There's a full point swing to someone's Median Buchholz should there be a victor here. So go Polina!

                              And on board 15, the #22 seed, Mathilde Broly, from France, plays the #42 seed, Venia Lymysalo, from Austria. Once again, Mathilde is Qiyu's opponent and Venia is Oliwia's so there's another possible full point swing to that Median Buchholz. Go Mathilde!

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                              • #45
                                Re: History in the making?

                                The games started 6 hours earlier today and the top board has already ended in a draw. A win by Qiyu on board two gives her Gold but her position is currently roughly equal. I would surmise that a draw may not be good enough since Polina is in trouble in her game. Playing the top seed in R9 could well cost Qiyu the Gold Medal. I iterate, though, can she win her game - and a quick peak back to the board shows Qiyu now better at the time control - she's clear 1st. Go Qiyu!

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