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  • #61
    Re: Origins of the Penguin - the back story emerges

    Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
    Maybe you and Vlad should ask Larry Bevand to set up a private forum for just you two... either that or get a room.
    Stop hijacking every thread.
    I am done with him. Let him spend his money and come to the series of horrifying realizations that he will eventually come to if he is foolish enough to proceed. Been there. Done that. Got the t-shirt.

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    • #62
      Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

      The online meeting is now closed.

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      • #63
        Re: Origins of the Penguin - the back story emerges

        Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
        I am done with him. Let him spend his money and come to the series of horrifying realizations that he will eventually come to if he is foolish enough to proceed. Been there. Done that. Got the t-shirt.
        With all your foolish self-incrimination, you'll be lucky if the t-shirt isn't taken off your back, lol! Now run off with your tail between your legs.

        Ohhhh, man, it's just too easy sometimes!
        Only the rushing is heard...
        Onward flies the bird.

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        • #64
          Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

          Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
          The online meeting is now closed.
          When's the Canadian Championship?

          Who was invited to the American Continental after the nominee withdrew? This question went unanswered earlier.

          Does the CFC have anything to offer chess players after they turn 20 years of age?
          Gary Ruben
          CC - IA and SIM

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          • #65
            Re: Origins of the Penguin - the back story emerges

            Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post
            With all your foolish self-incrimination, you'll be lucky if the t-shirt isn't taken off your back, lol! Now run off with your tail between your legs.

            Ohhhh, man, it's just too easy sometimes!
            You embellished your profile resume on chessbase.com to make your academic credentials seem more impressive than they actually are. I haven't seen your resume but you claim on chesstalk that you have done the same thing on your resume. Of course given your propensity for lying it is quite possible that your resume says nothing of the sort. Your libel lawsuit threats are ridiculous given your behaviour on chesstalk. You are doing far more damage to the possibility of someone wanting to work with you with your postings on chesstalk than I am doing by pointing out your lies and inconsistencies. I certainly would not ever want to work with you on anything. HTH.

            Have your lawyer send me the usual cease and desist letter and I will publicly mock it and you and your lawyer just like I did the last time someone sent me one of those. If he is a good lawyer maybe he will even honestly explain to you the difficulties that you face.

            https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=...oma+from+devry

            How many months did it take you to get your diploma in Electronic Engineering Technology from Devry?
            Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Tuesday, 28th October, 2014, 02:34 PM.

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            • #66
              Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

              Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
              When's the Canadian Championship?
              Which Canadian Championship are you referring to? If you are referring the Canadian Open, there have been feelers for an August date. There are no definite plans for the Canadian Closed aside from the determination that there will be a zonal tournament in time for the next world championship cycle even if we (members of the directors) have to organize it ourselves.

              Who was invited to the American Continental after the nominee withdrew? This question went unanswered earlier.
              The nominee withdrew after the deadline and thus we were not able to send another official player.

              Does the CFC have anything to offer chess players after they turn 20 years of age?
              We offer a rating system, access to CFC and FIDE tournaments, an email news magazine and the services of a national federation recognized by FIDE.

              Youth chess supports itself and so does adult chess.

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              • #67
                Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

                Which Canadian Championship are you referring to? If you are referring the Canadian Open, there have been feelers for an August date. There are no definite plans for the Canadian Closed aside from the determination that there will be a zonal tournament in time for the next world championship cycle even if we (members of the directors) have to organize it ourselves.
                I'm referring to the Canadian closed championship. When I was a governor most of us governors were capable of organizing such an event.

                How hard can it be to organize an RR of the highest rated players who want to participate?
                Gary Ruben
                CC - IA and SIM

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                • #68
                  Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                  Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                  I'm referring to the Canadian closed championship. When I was a governor most of us governors were capable of organizing such an event.

                  How hard can it be to organize an RR of the highest rated players who want to participate?
                  It's easy to organize an RR tournament. It's much harder (and requires a lot of sponsorship) to make it attracting enough for Canada's top players to participate.
                  If the CFC was willing to help financially, as it did in 2011, I am sure finding organizers would not be hard.

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                  • #69
                    Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                    Originally posted by Felix Dumont View Post
                    It's easy to organize an RR tournament. It's much harder (and requires a lot of sponsorship) to make it attracting enough for Canada's top players to participate.
                    If the CFC was willing to help financially, as it did in 2011, I am sure finding organizers would not be hard.
                    As a Zone, I feel it's the responsibility of the CFC to put up some cash if necessary. Organizing the Canadian closed is part of the cost of doing business, the way I see it.

                    I see the lack of a player at the American Continental as a problem. We've had players qualify for the WC knockouts from that event. For those kind of events the person attending should have to pay a refundable amount of money which will only be returned if s/he attends and completes the event. Someone missed a great chance to qualify to play in the WC knockouts.
                    Gary Ruben
                    CC - IA and SIM

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                    • #70
                      Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                      Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                      As a Zone, I feel it's the responsibility of the CFC to put up some cash if necessary. Organizing the Canadian closed is part of the cost of doing business, the way I see it.

                      I see the lack of a player at the American Continental as a problem. We've had players qualify for the WC knockouts from that event. For those kind of events the person attending should have to pay a refundable amount of money which will only be returned if s/he attends and completes the event. Someone missed a great chance to qualify to play in the WC knockouts.
                      Gary. When we posted that we were looking for players to come forward, we only had a single player interested. The CFC doesn't have a budget line for the transportation to this event. Maybe we should ...

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                      • #71
                        Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                        Originally posted by Fred McKim View Post
                        Gary. When we posted that we were looking for players to come forward, we only had a single player interested. The CFC doesn't have a budget line for the transportation to this event. Maybe we should ...
                        Fred, it is a premier event simply because of the opportunity to advance to the WC knockout event. We've had a player qualify from that event twice in a row, if I'm recalling correctly. Even losing in the first round of the WC knockout gives a player a cash prize.

                        I think there should be a refundable appearance fee required from our nominee for the simple reason that the entry precludes finding someone else.

                        Maybe there should also be a budget item for that event.

                        For some of our players making it to the WC knockout stage will be once in a life time. Something to tell their grandchildren. We can't be passing up golden opportunities for a qualifier.

                        Eric Hansen wrote the following.

                        http://www.chesstalk.info/forum/show...ll=1#post88444
                        Gary Ruben
                        CC - IA and SIM

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                        • #72
                          Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                          Out of curiosity, what is of more cost to host a Canadian Closed:

                          Option a) A round robin tournament

                          Option b) An "open" type tournament restricted to only 2200+ players

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                          • #73
                            Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                            Originally posted by Andy Shaw View Post
                            Out of curiosity, what is of more cost to host a Canadian Closed:

                            Option a) A round robin tournament

                            Option b) An "open" type tournament restricted to only 2200+ players
                            you are not actually asking the right question.

                            the actual organizing cost of the RR is smaller (smaller venue) but more of a pain (hard to get the players to commit).

                            But, historically at least, the RR has no entry fee whereas the Swiss does (all those close to 2200 are valued only for the entry fee they bring).

                            The actual organizing costs are relatively small (a few $K or possibly very low if a free venue is available and pro bono TD)- the real problem is that a) there is an expectation of prize money these days and b) the CFC wrote into it's rules that the organizer must also provide free accommodation (and entry) to certain players. Those are the real costs.

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                            • #74
                              Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                              I would say that option b) would probably require at least $3000 in sponsorship to have something similar to what we did in 2012 ($6000 in prizes).
                              Option a) would probably require more sponsorship, as players would not play if the prize fund is not big enough. We are talking of a deficit of at least $5000.

                              As Roger Patterson just said, in addition to the prize fund the organizers must also provide free entries, free accomodation and appearance fees for GMs.

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                              • #75
                                Re: CFC Voting Members Quarterly Online Meeting

                                Originally posted by Roger Patterson View Post
                                you are not actually asking the right question.
                                What is the right question, God?

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