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  • Neil Frarey
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    Re: Trump - The NEW, New Thread

    Originally posted by Mavros Whissell View Post
    Hi Neil,

    I'm typically Pro-Trump on most issues, so I'm a bit confused why you are saying I am on an anti-Trump rant.

    I have not disputed your arguments about job findings, in fact I believe Trump is increasing real, decent paying jobs. This would be in opposition to Obama, who was at the helm when there was a large influx of very poorly paying jobs which he used for the % employment statistics. There is proof of this from both the left and right medias.

    I don't think I'm opposed to what you are saying Neil. I just believe that however this problem occurred, mercy should be given to the suffering.

    Mavros
    My bad Mav, I should of said 'the'.

    The Donald shakes this up again today, eh? Here's the spin from the Clinton News Network:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/politi...eal/index.html



    Trump's happy, Dem's happy, Republicans not so much happy ... Ryan and McConnell have been put on notice.

    Tax reform / Infrastructure are next in line.

    We'll see if his tactic worked, or not.

    MAGA!
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Thursday, 7th September, 2017, 06:05 PM.

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    By what metric?

    By the metric of personal generosity whilst in office he is the greatest president of all time. By unemployment metric he is better than the previous two. By fewer people on food stamps better again! Perhaps wealth created in 401ks with record high stock markets? That's a lot of money for a lot of folks! Again, better! Deregulation since Reagan? As an example ... pipeline that benefits Canada too? Perhaps bringing back new billion dollar auto plants? Border security?

    Want me to go on???

    By what metric is he a terrible president? Oh I know, by the Bob G., Peter McKillop, Paul Bonham metric. Yeppers, you got me there! He might not ever be canonized.

    This is too much fun!

    Which US president has given 1 million dollars of his own money to help those in need???

    Who?


    Class dismissed.
    Neil, this was your post 6 days ago in reply to my comment that Trump is a terrible President.
    Do you still stand by your comments?

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  • Mavros Whissell
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Personally speaking I think they should clear the decks. Allow every ILLEGAL to come forward and be allowed a path to citizenship.

    And then from this point on ... ENFORCE the law.

    Million & millions of well meaning folks who OBEY the law ...wait, wait some more, going through the LEGAL immigration process. America currently accepts 1 million LEGAL immigrants per year. More than any other country in the world by far:

    "The million annual entries in the USA are green cards, which grant permanent residence..."
    http://www.politifact.com/oregon/sta...rants-rest-wo/

    So in the midst of your anti-Trump rants consider this; consider the integrity of those law abiding people as something to RESPECT! Respect above those who are ILLEGAL and FORCE themselves upon those who simply want to live by the rule of law. A rule of law that applies equally to everyone.

    Something also worth considering Mav; if Trump continues to make America great again with increased American manufacturing jobs, service sector jobs, etc., etc., he will need to fill those jobs with qualified people. That would lead to an increase in LEGAL immigration far past the current 1 million per year?
    Hi Neil,

    I'm typically Pro-Trump on most issues, so I'm a bit confused why you are saying I am on an anti-Trump rant.

    I have not disputed your arguments about job findings, in fact I believe Trump is increasing real, decent paying jobs. This would be in opposition to Obama, who was at the helm when there was a large influx of very poorly paying jobs which he used for the % employment statistics. There is proof of this from both the left and right medias.

    I don't think I'm opposed to what you are saying Neil. I just believe that however this problem occurred, mercy should be given to the suffering.

    Mavros

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
    Really? You sure fooled us. :)
    Based upon your posts, you are at the very least a strong Trump supporter, even hero worshipper.
    If that isn't true, you really should review and edit your posts.
    Us? There's actually an 'us'?

    So, once again, Bob G. (a.k.a. 'us'), Trump is not my hero.

    Thx.

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Once again, Peter, Trump is not my hero.
    Really? You sure fooled us. :)
    Based upon your posts, you are at the very least a strong Trump supporter, even hero worshipper.
    If that isn't true, you really should review and edit your posts.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
    Many people, including Obama, have compassion for, and wish to help, those less fortunate than themselves. This is an indication of positive character traits that you and your racist, misogynistic, homophobic hero are lacking.
    Once again, Peter, Trump is not my hero. Please stop trying to force your personality on that 'matter'.

    Thx.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Mavros Whissell View Post
    Just replying to Peter's individual post - I am no longer following this thread.

    There is a truly terrible situation going on right now, where illegal immigrants are afraid to come forward in the Houston flood - and remain living/hiding in dangerous conditions. At a time like this, mercy is not only applicable, but should overcome the law if the law doesn't make room for it. All life is precious. I don't care if the democrats are being opportunistic about their immigration policies in this situation, the value of life should come first, and leniency of some sort should be the mandate so these people can come forward to get help without fear of being reported. I hope this is being considered. I know both parties are working together on funding, but funding isn't everything here (thought it is clearly critical).
    Personally speaking I think they should clear the decks. Allow every ILLEGAL to come forward and be allowed a path to citizenship.

    And then from this point on ... ENFORCE the law.

    Million & millions of well meaning folks who OBEY the law ...wait, wait some more, going through the LEGAL immigration process. America currently accepts 1 million LEGAL immigrants per year. More than any other country in the world by far:

    "The million annual entries in the USA are green cards, which grant permanent residence..."
    http://www.politifact.com/oregon/sta...rants-rest-wo/

    So in the midst of your anti-Trump rants consider this; consider the integrity of those law abiding people as something to RESPECT! Respect above those who are ILLEGAL and FORCE themselves upon those who simply want to live by the rule of law. A rule of law that applies equally to everyone.

    Something also worth considering Mav; if Trump continues to make America great again with increased American manufacturing jobs, service sector jobs, etc., etc., he will need to fill those jobs with qualified people. That would lead to an increase in LEGAL immigration far past the current 1 million per year?
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Thursday, 7th September, 2017, 03:02 PM.

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  • Mavros Whissell
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    Re: Trump - The NEW, New Thread

    Just replying to Peter's individual post - I am no longer following this thread.

    There is a truly terrible situation going on right now, where illegal immigrants are afraid to come forward in the Houston flood - and remain living/hiding in dangerous conditions. At a time like this, mercy is not only applicable, but should overcome the law if the law doesn't make room for it. All life is precious. I don't care if the democrats are being opportunistic about their immigration policies in this situation, the value of life should come first, and leniency of some sort should be the mandate so these people can come forward to get help without fear of being reported. I hope this is being considered. I know both parties are working together on funding, but funding isn't everything here (thought it is clearly critical).

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    To bad Obama didn't have respect for the rule of law. IF that were the case then there would be no DACA illegals.

    Not so?

    How long should an illegal immigrant hide from the law before they force themselves as legal?

    10 years, 20 years?

    What part of the word > illegal < don't you understand? The 'legal' part or the 'il' part?
    Many people, including Obama, have compassion for, and wish to help, those less fortunate than themselves. This is an indication of positive character traits that you and your racist, misogynistic, homophobic hero are lacking.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Re: Trump - The NEW, New Thread

    Originally posted by Lucas Davies View Post
    https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/904791884672925697

    Some strong arguments from Trump regarding DACA
    To bad Obama didn't have respect for the rule of law. IF that were the case then there would be no DACA illegals.

    Not so?

    How long should an illegal immigrant hide from the law before they force themselves as legal?

    10 years, 20 years?

    What part of the word > illegal < don't you understand? The 'legal' part or the 'il' part?
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Thursday, 7th September, 2017, 12:40 AM.

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  • Lucas Davies
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    https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/904791884672925697

    Some strong arguments from Trump regarding DACA

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  • Kerry Liles
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    My bad ... :(

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  • John Coleman
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    Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
    You do realize that Obama was not president when Katrina hit?
    Kerry, you've got to stop allowing facts to influence fans and fanatics.

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  • Kerry Liles
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    You do realize that Obama was not president when Katrina hit?

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  • Lucas Davies
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    Re: Trump - The NEW, New Thread

    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    How much did President Obama personally donate for those in dire need from hurricane Katrina???

    Um, 0$

    How much did President Trump personally donate for those in dire need from hurricane Harvey???

    Um, 1,000,000.00$

    Contrast?

    But hey at least your kind got to some more typical Obama talking points like:

    “I wish I could just write a check.”

    Why didn't Obama just do it? Why?

    You're done, Peter. Get over it.

    *****

    Here's some numbers from your Clinton News Network:

    Jobs ... The unemployment rate is 4.3%, a 16-year low. The economy has added more than 1 million jobs since Trump took office.

    Stocks ... undeniable win for the president. Fears of a market collapse under Trump have proved to be misguided.

    The Dow keeps hitting records and is up 12% this year. Profits for the companies in the S&P 500 are up more than 10% from a year ago.


    Seriously Peter, give the guy some credit. CNN does ... or is that just some more fake news?

    What part of unemployment 16 year low & Dow hitting record highs ... don't you understand?


    This is getting too easy ...next?
    https://twitter.com/Breznican/status/898586524874186753

    Full interview: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watc...-1026775107752

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