The One and Only Climate Change thread...

[David McTavish]

Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

It would appear that this thread has run it's course. Recent posts have been reduced to name calling and none related topics.

IMHO, the evidence supports the case for AGW.

Since I haven't seen anything constructive or on topic recently, I would be quite happy to see the board administrators block further posts to this thread.

Who appointed u Prez of this board?

[Gary Ruben]

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[Adam Cormier]

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military strikes on civilian targets happen all the time; never understood why people get so worked up about this particular one

But this had a massive effect on so many things...

There were many many victims, who died on this tragic day nine years ago.

Republicans used the tragedy of 9/11 to lie and take Americans into an unjustified war with a country that had nothing to do with the attacks on them, instead of pursuing the real culprits(I also blame the democrats who did nothing to stop this but instead they choose to go with the flow so to speak).

"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."- President George W. Bush, 3/13/02

They also passed a law that steals liberties in the name of 'security' and 'freedom'.

The westboro baptist church, did indeed burn Korans today, as well as an American flag, but they called it the doomed American flag. Republicans continually use this date to discriminate against all Muslims for the actions of the extremists.

This also had an effect on religions in general, Dawkins has a lecture on this subject, saying how 9/11 opened up a lot of people's eyes who viewed religious extremism as just a harmless nuisance.

"let's stop being so damned respectful" Richard Dawkins.

So the tragedy that occurred on 9/11 was so much more then just an act of terrorism(military strike), it changed everything!

[Ben Daswani]

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No need for fighting today, let's all just be kind for at least one day of the year.

9/11-the day when everything changed...
Science flies us to the moon,
Religion flies us into buildings.

military strikes on civilian targets happen all the time; never understood why people get so worked up about this particular one

[Gary Ruben]

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No need for fighting today, let's all just be kind for at least one day of the year.

From what I hear there's a big union/managment thing happening on the Island. Probably making people touchy. A large employer, with limited means, wants the unions in several mills to take a sizeable pay cut. I'm only guessing at the "or else". They already permanently closed one towns mill.

I guess if they close there will be less pollution on the Island.

[Adam Cormier]

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No need for fighting today, let's all just be kind for at least one day of the year.

9/11-the day when everything changed...
Science flies us to the moon,
Religion flies us into buildings.

[Ed Seedhouse]

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What an irrational reply

Accurately characterising his own reply!

[Erik Malmsten]

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But Science is the only discipline that will tell you what they don't know. And the only one that uses evidence to make up it's mind. Ed

What an irrational reply, not that I believe many are capable of rational thought without being tainted by emotional/philosophical luggage. I certainly struggle to find logic as I can perceive and know so little about life. You bring up so many questions: Why is Science capitalized and has a mind, apparently all fields form one being. What are the other disciplines besides Science? What is evidence? If it can't be measured or found in a funded-study does it not exist? Science does tell us that they don't know everything about the brain, but you have made up your mind that the brain has nothing to do with the many stories of psychics, past lives, ghosts, speaking in tongues, alien abductions, devil possession and other irrational experiences. I never said that I didn't believe in Climate Change; I guess you assume that I don't and therefore subject to attack. Lastly, you choose to respond to what you most emotionally reacted to, and didn't address any of the points about chess, which this scientifically-created forum is supposed to be about.

[Adam Cormier]

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Yes. It's a company in which I've been invested for a couple of years. I like the science and what they are doing. For some reason I thought the contract had been extended a few year and would include a larger reduction in weapons-grade uranium. Possibly the negotiations are still on going.

Oh I haven't kept up with the latest news, so it is possible their goals have changed, but they are definitely doing a great job so far.

[Gary Ruben]

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that's fantastic, I hope they keep their goal of eliminating 500 metric tonnes of weapons-grade uranium by 2013.

Yes. It's a company in which I've been invested for a couple of years. I like the science and what they are doing. For some reason I thought the contract had been extended a few year and would include a larger reduction in weapons-grade uranium. Possibly the negotiations are still on going.

[Adam Cormier]

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Material for 16,000 Nuclear Warheads has now been eliminated by the Megatons to Megawatts program.

Here's the article.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Materi....html?x=0&.v=1

that's fantastic, I hope they keep their goal of eliminating 500 metric tonnes of weapons-grade uranium by 2013.

[Gary Ruben]

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Material for 16,000 Nuclear Warheads has now been eliminated by the Megatons to Megawatts program.

Here's the article.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Materi....html?x=0&.v=1

[Ed Seedhouse]

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The scientific process can't solve everything as we are still bumbling along with our limited technology and biased by/emotionally invested in ancient ideas of who we are.

But Science is the only discipline that will tell you what they don't know. And the only one that uses evidence to make up it's mind.

The instances you cited are not evidence, they are anecdotes, and the fact that you seem to think they are evidence is not going to inspire confidence in a rational person.

Meanwhile you post on a forum that is only possible because of the advances in physics beginning in the early twentieth century.

Ed

[Erik Malmsten]

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IF... IF... IF!!!!!
A very plausible theory for reincarnation effects is that the observed effect isn't a soul living beyond death, it is INFORMATION TRANSFER.

I beleived in reincarnation in a past life. If Paul Morphy was reincarnated and playing chess today, would his intuition bring out King Gambits?

The passing of information is an interesting idea. I think I have some biological/genetic attraction to food and interests of my parents and grandparents (that I wasn't taught as a kid), but not language or dreams/stories.

Science is still very young and hasn't been able to develop the tools yet to understand everything about brains (and life). Some people do experience psychic connections, such as picking up the phone before the first ring. A close friend felt his grandmother die. Back in the 1970s a psychic was able to tell me about a relative's old injury that I never knew about, which I was able to confirm later. But I've also been to Penn and Teller shows and they totally swindle me.

The scientific process can't solve everything as we are still bumbling along with our limited technology and biased by/emotionally invested in ancient ideas of who we are. Real life has many unknown changing variables than labatory test tube results. Perhaps in a few decades computers tablebases will solve chess to 16 pieces and radically alter our understanding of the game. Perhaps in a few decades there will a nutrious diet that works for all body types. Perhaps in a few decades there will be enough data to confirm global warming and the end of the world as we know it.

[Adam Cormier]

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Actually the main subject is chess. That's much more interesting than all this AGW nonsense. Even reincarnation is more interesting than AGW even though I don't personally believe in it though I do understand how some people can get the idea that reincarnation occurs. There are even one or two biblical scriptures which could give you the idea that reincarnation is a possibility.

We can experience reincarnation through chess play in a sense.

I just picked up these quotes from a spirituality website...

"Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment" (Hebrews 9:27). If you believe the Bible is important then this would put you against reincarnation.

'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us'" (Luke 16: 25-26).

You can't cross back over apparently...

and...Finally the Bible teaches that we are all sinners. "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). And the penalty for sin is death, not reincarnation. "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." This verse from Romans 6:23 is the best argument against reincarnation. For Jesus died for our sins that we might have eternal life in heaven, not eternal reincarnation.

so Christianity and reincarnation are conflicting beliefs(of course there are most likely contradictions to these since the bible is full of contradictions)

It doesn't matter if God exists or not, or any other religious beliefs,is correct or not...

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." - Marcus Aurelius

pretty simple way to live one's life, eh?

but anyways this thread is supposed to be about AGW, while chess is the most interesting topic, this thread is supposed to be about AGW.