The One and Only Climate Change thread...

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

To build your economy on the false promises of the "green" economy is to invite economic disaster when reality reasserts itself as it always does.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Solar Power

It will be interesting to see if the Eurozone nations continue with their green subsidies as their economies continue to crumble. California is big on green and their state is having problems. Issuing IOU's. I seem to recall they can be exchanged for money owed to the state.

I have some shares in Allied Irish Banks. Not many but a few. They trade as ADR's in New York. Each ADR represents 2 shares, I think. I've been told those shares are virtually worthless. My reply is always that there is a significant difference between "virtually worthless" and "worthless". That is, or was, quite a big bank in Ireland from what I understand.

[Paul Bonham]

Re: Solar Power

Kasparov's google interview has an interesting analysis of risk, in which he states that society is risk averse. I agree totally on the everyday risks of sports, riding bikes, etc.

However it is very ironic that society is simply not willing to address or take any steps to minimize the risk of catastrophic abrupt climate change...

Simple: it's because to take those steps means taking the risk of catastrophic, abrupt ECONOMIC RUIN.

Come on, Paul, don't you know physics? Shouldn't you understand about momentum and inertia?

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Solar Power

Anyhow, in view of what I've been reading in recent weeks, I thought this thread had been put to rest.

There was an article in the Windsor Star a few days ago stating that warming has slowed down in part because of huge increases in pollution from China and India which have resulted in more reflection out into space of the sun's rays off the smog. So the solution to global warming is.... more pollution. I think I prefer the warming.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Solar Power

Kasparov's google interview has an interesting analysis of risk, in which he states that society is risk averse. I agree totally on the everyday risks of sports, riding bikes, etc.

However it is very ironic that society is simply not willing to address or take any steps to minimize the risk of catastrophic abrupt climate change...

Of course people take steps to minimize risks. They buy life insurance.

Anyhow, in view of what I've been reading in recent weeks, I thought this thread had been put to rest.

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Here's another article. A serious blow to climate control.

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Enjoy...

[Paul Beckwith]

Re: Solar Power

Kasparov's google interview has an interesting analysis of risk, in which he states that society is risk averse. I agree totally on the everyday risks of sports, riding bikes, etc.

However it is very ironic that society is simply not willing to address or take any steps to minimize the risk of catastrophic abrupt climate change...

[Paul Beckwith]

Re: Solar Power

More information on the harsh reality of the future; given the present direction...

http://feeds.feedburner.com/climateprogress/lCrX

Whether you follow the science or not; if you get on the email list of climateprogress you get an update every few days; well worth it; better than going to a horror movie...

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Solar Power

More clear evidence on a changing climate. The hydrological cycle has increased by 18% from 1994-2006. Basically, there is more evaporation and more rainfall, which is exactly what is predicted by climate change models.

On the other hand, statistics don't seem to be standing up to the light of day.

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I also read something in the Alberni Valley Newspaper which looks interesting. However, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

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I have a large number of shares in Catalyst Paper. It was trading at 10 cents a share and I could never resist such an option on a recovery. I always have several and the ones which succeed more than make up for the ones which go under. In any case, I had a whack of it earlier in the year and did really well before I sold it all. Now I've gone back to the well, as the saying goes.

[Paul Beckwith]

Re: Solar Power

More clear evidence on a changing climate. The hydrological cycle has increased by 18% from 1994-2006. Basically, there is more evaporation and more rainfall, which is exactly what is predicted by climate change models.

http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/cli...accelera-1.asp

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Solar Power

And about the Texas case, I'm interested in how the court will rule.

This round is in a Federal Appeal Court. While I'm not sure how the U.S. system works, this sounds like it could end up in the U.S. Supreme Court and could take years unless it's fast tracked.

It will be interesting to see if other states join in the opposition.

[Adam Cormier]

Re: Solar Power

Yes. Ontario is paying 64.2 cents a KWH for the electricity from ground mounted Solar panels which hadn't been approved at the time of the change. For the roof top they still pay 80.2 cents a KWH.

It's interesting they resell that electricity for 6 or 7 cents a KWH.

I'm not sure what will happen if the Liberals lose the next provincial election, which is a good possibility.

Here's a bit about Texas suing the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C. It looks like large implications if Texas wins.

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I think it is almost assured the Liberals will lose the next provincial election. Most voters are going to go against them because of the new HST(the popularity of the Liberals certainly dropped massively). I remember hearing about the short sighted view of most voters and how it is hard to see what the politicians are trying to accomplish with their policies in my civics course.

And about the Texas case, I'm interested in how the court will rule.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Solar Power

Yes. Ontario is paying 64.2 cents a KWH for the electricity from ground mounted Solar panels which hadn't been approved at the time of the change. For the roof top they still pay 80.2 cents a KWH.

It's interesting they resell that electricity for 6 or 7 cents a KWH.

I'm not sure what will happen if the Liberals lose the next provincial election, which is a good possibility.

Here's a bit about Texas suing the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C. It looks like large implications if Texas wins.

Click Here...

This is idiocy of the highest order (overpaying for """clean""" energy). I wonder how many of the people involved in these projects have made campaign donations to certain parties.

As for the URL. Don't mess with Texas.

Vladimir Drkulec

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Solar Power

Thanks for the solar posting Gary. Ontario has reduced the feed-in-tariff for ground mounted solar panels since the installation costs are lower than they expected.

Yes. Ontario is paying 64.2 cents a KWH for the electricity from ground mounted Solar panels which hadn't been approved at the time of the change. For the roof top they still pay 80.2 cents a KWH.

It's interesting they resell that electricity for 6 or 7 cents a KWH.

I'm not sure what will happen if the Liberals lose the next provincial election, which is a good possibility.

Here's a bit about Texas suing the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C. It looks like large implications if Texas wins.

Click Here...

[Paul Beckwith]

Re: Solar Power

Thanks for the solar posting Gary. Ontario has reduced the feed-in-tariff for ground mounted solar panels since the installation costs are lower than they expected.

[Paul Beckwith]

Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

Nobody did. Just because he is prez of the CFC does not mean that he cannot express his opinion on other issues. IMHO means "in my humble opinion"; he is just stating an opinion as a person; not as a chess politician...Nothing wrong with that, IMHO.