The One and Only Climate Change thread...

[Vlad Drkulec]

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On the lighter side of the news, the Harper government has cut funding for fraudulent AGW research. Cue outrage.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Poor garry, reduced to such straits. You'd think he'd at least try to be original, but no...

LOL! I see you are stealing my lines.

Mirroring won't work. I am well aware of that old tactic.

I will have to sue you for royalties.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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He failed to capitalize the name. I don't know why some of these guys have problems with capitalization.

They failed spelling in grade school.

Or perhaps they read too many e.e.cummings poems while inhaling (unlike Bill Clinton who never inhaled).

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Taoism, Mao was a Taoist not an atheist, he still believed in some harmony in the universe.

Hitler was a Christian
and an additional article

Hitler was not an atheist

Even if you can prove that these mass murderers were atheists, it is not important because probably not a single person has ever been killed in the name of atheism and that Christian writer needs to get his facts straight(he was on the Colbert report once I believe). He also believes in intelligent design(a.k.a. creationism) and is against the separation of church of state, I don't think I can take him seriously.

Also you might want to read the conclusion of that article you quoted, In conclusion, I think that Hitler was not an atheist, but he was not a Christian either. While he was materialist and rationalist in a lot of things, he also talked a lot about "Providence", or "Nature", as a sort of mystical force of fate, and he saw himself as somehow destined for victory even when the war was going badly for him, simply because of the purity of his purpose, his strength of will, and his feeling of destiny. I have even read that he believed in reincarnation. To me, some of his quotes and writings make it sound like he worshipped the German national identity; some make it seem like instead of God he worshipped or idealised or divinised Providence / Nature / Fate, with his glorious destiny assured no matter what; and in some ways it seems to me like he worshipped himself.

Not unlike the cult of AGW and the useful idiots who apologized for and extolled the communistic ideals as millions were being murdered.

Hitler was influenced by the writings of Nietzche who would have been horrified had he lived to see what the Nazis did with his philosophical and poetic writings. Hitler was a consumate liar and a murderer and an atheist with some pagan themes piped in as background music. What he wrote privately about his beliefs is probably more indicative of his state.

The AGW/Gaia religion is an echo of Hitler's themes of Nature and Providence.

Mao's regime killed Taoists in the millions and perhaps tens of millions.

How Many Have Been Killed by Communists/Fascists in the Name of Atheism & Secularism?:

None, probably. How can that be? After all, millions and millions of people died in Russia and China under communist governments — and those governments were both secular and atheistic. So weren't all of those people killed because of atheism — even in the name of atheism and secularism? No, that conclusion does not follow. Atheism itself isn't a principle, cause, philosophy, or belief system which people fight, die, or kill for. Being killed by an atheist is no more being killed in the name of atheism than being killed by a tall person is being killed in the name of tallness...

Stalin "hated" religion so much, that in 1951-06-27 he gave "Stalin's Prize" to English clergyman Hewlett Johnson.

From Wikipedia:

The Very Reverend Hewlett Johnson (25 January 1874 - 22 October 1966), was an English clergyman, Dean of Manchester and later Dean of Canterbury, where he acquired his nickname The Red Dean of Canterbury for his unyielding support for the Soviet Union and its allies.

Adam if you don't want me to consign you to the Ed Seedhouse category of mindless lefties incapable of independent thought, you really need to stop giving such bad examples to prove your points.

I am not defending God. He needs no defense from a wretch like myself. I am not defending religion because I object to most religions as they like the leeches precipitating around AGW. That is one of my objections to all of the nonsense associated with the silly theory of AGW. It is a religion.

Various prizes under Soviet authority received and other priests.
So the common claims that Stalin was an anti-theist is wrong, a deeper research into Russian history will give you a different perspective.

They always did know how to reward the "useful idiots" as they called them.

I don't think you can prove any of these mass-murderers were atheists, there is as much contradictory evidence for as against this matter.

If you read what they wrote and said then it is clear that they were atheists. Later, when it became clear that communism was a failed experiment, some of them may have faltered.

How many people has God killed?, this article lists all the events in the bible where God kills some people and you see a really high number, so much for being all-loving.

So let me get this straight. God who you claim is a fictional character is bad because he killed all these people that he didn't really kill since he doesn't exist according to you.

The atheists who killed some 65 million people or more in the 20th century are okay because they didn't kill for atheism but for other reasons. Those 65 million people are still dead whatever the atheists motivations. Their atheistic beliefs allowed them to undertake such genocides.

[Gary Ruben]

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adding an extra r to gary shouldn't be that offensive. lets all calm down, and start talking about more important things then name-calling...

He failed to capitalize the name. I don't know why some of these guys have problems with capitalization.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Now perhaps Vlad will publish some predictions made in 1981 by some religions...

I already have. The Paul Ehrlich quotes from the AGW cult. These are the same predictions that the AGW alarmists are recycling now.

[Adam Cormier]

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I like to spell Ed Seedhouse correctly so when people type your name in Google all your thoughts and brilliant writings show up.

I actually laughed when I saw Seedmore, but i think you're making a big deal out of nothing, adding an extra r to gary shouldn't be that offensive. lets all calm down, and start talking about more important things then name-calling...

[Gary Ruben]

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I am more interested in getting the facts right than in writing Larry's name right. Now that I see it bugs him, though, it is a more tempting target.

I like to spell Ed Seedhouse correctly so when people type your name in Google all your thoughts and brilliant writings show up.

[Adam Cormier]

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Attacking? No I would not say I am attacking Vlad. I am merely ridiculing him, or rather the silly things he says.

I'm sorry, I guess attacking was too strong of a word, you are right, ridiculing what he says would be a more accurate explanations of your actions.

I am more interested in getting the facts right than in writing Larry's name right. Now that I see it bugs him, though, it is a more tempting target.

"When you run out of truth and logic, attack the spelling."

The deniers never had any truth or logic to begin with...

[Ed Seedhouse]

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The name is "Gary". You should try to spell a person's names correctly, Seedmore.

I am more interested in getting the facts right than in writing Larry's name right. Now that I see it bugs him, though, it is a more tempting target.

"When you run out of truth and logic, attack the spelling."

[Gary Ruben]

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Poor garry,

The name is "Gary". You should try to spell a person's names correctly, Seedmore.

[Gary Ruben]

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I'm unsure if this could get this thread locked...which would be most unfortunate.

Won't happen. This keeps it away from other threads.

Have you ever noticed at the zoo they keep the skunks off to the side? Same idea here.

[Ed Seedhouse]

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You admitted to being a fool. Now it's simply a case of determining the extent.

Poor garry, reduced to such straits. You'd think he'd at least try to be original, but no...

[Ed Seedhouse]

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An interesting article on Skeptical Science today, pointing out how a model of climate changed published nearly thirty years ago by a group of scientists predicted the observed global temperatures of the 2000's very closely indeed, the model only slightly underestimating the actual temperature rises recorded twenty to thirty years later.

Now perhaps Vlad will publish some predictions made in 1981 by some religions...

[Gary Ruben]

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I will concede that Gary is probably a bigger tool than even Vlad.

You admitted to being a fool. Now it's simply a case of determining the extent.