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That was an excellent link; well written and informative with a scientific author. Who cares what Ruben (GROM) writes; I am just going to ignore him and stick to science, unless he addresses the content of the link directly. The only value in his posts is light comedy. Ignore his posts and we can have a discussion ourselves.
Thanks again for the link...
To other readers of these posts; I highly recommend that you look at Eds link 2 posts back and join in the conversation here; that way we do not have to hear GROM drone on. It has a very good summary of recent changes to the planet from climate change; feel free to ask questions and poke holes in the actual data it presents.
As for GROM and the other ill-informed ludital sceptics, let us see if they can actually address each of the changes addressed in the link or provide some counter data instead of talking slander and baseless cliched generalities.
I see President Obama has decided that America has to drill for domestic oil after all. Perhaps the melting of ice in the North (e.g. Alaska) will make it easier. The oil is running out and I expect that more drilling will happen in previously hostile environments.
"Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
I see President Obama has decided that America has to drill for domestic oil after all. Perhaps the melting of ice in the North (e.g. Alaska) will make it easier. The oil is running out and I expect that more drilling will happen in previously hostile environments.
I don't expect Obama will tell us he doesn't want our tar sands oil. I think it has become a bit problematic for our government with the increasing Asian investment in our oil sands. To allow it or not to allow it.
The thing is this. When most people invest in resources companies they are mainly interested in making some money in the long run. Many foreign investors are interested in the oil. Taking their share "in kind" rather than taking the money. I don't know how this will effect the interests of Canada and the U.S. in the long run. Also, the mid term elections are coming up and the Republican stance is for "drill baby, drill". Palin appears popular with that stance these days.
You might have read about the extension of the nuclear treaty between Russia and the U.S. This is an important development. If you are familiar with the megatons to megawatts program, this will extend the process for years. I'm not sure how many. The nuclear grade uranium is changed to low enriched uranium and burned in the light water reactors. The U.S. agent for this is Usec Inc. They buy it from the Russian company and it's either in SWU's (Separative Work Units) or turn it into that form. I forget. I was reading this program accounts for 10 percent of the electricity produced in the U.S. and the company is happy about this extension.
To put it in prespective, since our population is about 10% of the U.S. population, that uranium would be enough to produce power for our nation.
I notice Paul wants to dismiss me, however, I feel it's because I know more than he does on a wider range of matters relating to science. When he starts that, it makes him sound like a nasty p**ck stomping his little booty and throwing a fit by berating an old guy he can't fool.
We had some fun on another topic last year. Are you planning on going long the American dollar at any point? I have a number picked out and the ETF to get IF our dollar gets that high.
What matters is what the voters will do with the governmets which are spending megabucks to satisfy the lobby groups for this laughable "science".
Germany and France cut grants for solar and new projects are dropping off.
So who is this blogger that Gary dismisses out of hand:
This post is by guest Blogger Scott A. Mandia, Professor of Physical Sciences at Suffolk County Community College, Long Island, NY. Mandia holds an M.S. Meteorology from Penn State University and a B.S. Meteorology from University of Lowell (now called UMass – Lowell). Mandia has been teaching introductory meteorology and paleoclimatology courses for 23 years.
ahhhh....apparently somebody knowledgable about climate science. :)
Are you planning on going long the American dollar at any point? I have a number picked out and the ETF to get IF our dollar gets that high.
I am sure I am in the minority, but I think if the US government doesn't get their fiscal house in order, their dollar is going to implode. At that point I would consider buying some super-cheap real estate. ;-0
This is why I think, regardless of which side anyone is on in the global climate change debate, that in the long-run it doesn't matter as nothing more than window dressing will get done. People have been trained to want the nanny state, they want someone else to pay for it, and they will never plan in advance for anything. People don't worry about their own retirements and how to finance them, so why are they going to worry about planet-wide climate change? Better to just sit back, watch Canadian Idol and shop 'til you drop to keep the Ponzi-scheme economy chugging along.
We are going to see more yapping from government about budgeting and going green. We are going to get more drilling and profligacy.
"Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
Better to just sit back, watch Canadian Idol and shop 'til you drop to keep the Ponzi-scheme economy chugging along.
Tom,
IMHO, most people do not share your defeatist attitude. Most people if given the choice, will do the right thing. For example, recycling programs are very popular. I believe volunteerism is at an all time high, and look at the donations to the Haiti disaster fund.
Defeatism can easily become a self fulfilling prophecy.:(
I am sure I am in the minority, but I think if the US government doesn't get their fiscal house in order, their dollar is going to implode. At that point I would consider buying some super-cheap real estate. ;-0
This is why I think, regardless of which side anyone is on in the global climate change debate, that in the long-run it doesn't matter as nothing more than window dressing will get done. People have been trained to want the nanny state, they want someone else to pay for it, and they will never plan in advance for anything. People don't worry about their own retirements and how to finance them, so why are they going to worry about planet-wide climate change? Better to just sit back, watch Canadian Idol and shop 'til you drop to keep the Ponzi-scheme economy chugging along.
We are going to see more yapping from government about budgeting and going green. We are going to get more drilling and profligacy.
I guess there are the two main thoughts on the U.S. dollar. Many share your view on the U.S. dollar and treasury auctions failing. Personally, I think it's relative. When you look at the Euro as a comparison, they have their problems. There are a lot of nations involved with the Euro and they aren't all fiscally responsible. I would imagine the weaker U.S. dollar would help U.S. exports and promote tourism. I doubt it will get too low. The U.S. is still a good place to invest. Even if you buy real estate, I'd imagine you would expect the U.S. dollar to strengthen against the Canadian dollar to increase the value or move there. Otherwise you could buy cheap real estate in many other nations.
I also don't think much will get done on climate change. We'll have to see how elections go and if people want to spend public money on it.
There will be more drilling but the problem is that as far as I know Alberta is mainly natural gas once you get away from the Tar Sands. I think they prefer to call it the Oil Sands these days. Of course, it's different now that it used to be. Used to be you drilled straight down, and up came the nat gas or oil like from a straw. Now they drill down, then drill horizontally for another half mile or mile, fracture the rock in about a dozen spots and they get a lot of gas or oil coming up the straw. The problem is the production tends to drop quickly on gas wells so you have to keep drilling to keep up the supply. For an idea of the how much it can drop see Boyle's Law as it applies to gases. When the pressure drops the amount of gas you can get from the pipe will also drop.
I think government will see a big drop in revenue this year. Lower interest rates and people writing off capital losses from last year will likely bring in less tax dollars.
ahhhh....apparently somebody knowledgable about climate science. :)
Surely you can be more assertive than that! "apparently" is a weasel word. Tell us how you really feel.
Y'know, Bob, I can make a case for climate change, against climate change or climate change neutral. It would depend on what I was being paid to do.
As for experts, you only have to look at all the people who were wrongfully convicted of killing children on the sloppy work and the testimony of an Ontario coroner.
1. Put a label on it
2. Paint it on a sign
3. Nail it on a two by four
4. Carry it on the picket line.
I'd prefer that method to Gary's where he just calls everything he doesn't like a bad name and tries to bully it into silence, and follows up his failure by stuffing his foot in his mouth.
But to Gary, facts don't mean much. If a fact is inconvenient he just calls it a bad name and claims that it doesn't exist because his kind of people are ignoring it.
I prefer actual evidence, myself, to either method.. Some others on this forum do as well, I expect, so they might be interested in a link to the article "Earth's five mass extinction events" over at Skeptical Science.
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