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  • Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
    LOL :) I was using "apparently" in a sarcastic way.
    So, I'll try again, I meant to say:

    perhaps somebody more knowledgeable that Gary about climate science!:D

    opps, :o "perhaps" is a little kind of a weasel word too! So, drop the perhaps!
    I like that. You have dropped the weasel word and stand behind your statement.

    With the last hour or so I was listening to someone on BNN being interviewed. He is a Professor at the University of Houston. He called wind power the last refuge of the energy scoundrel. They put the segments on their web site so you can probably view the entire interview.
    Gary Ruben
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      Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
      I'd prefer that method to Gary's where he just calls everything he doesn't like a bad name and tries to bully it into silence, and follows up his failure by stuffing his foot in his mouth.
      I think you're an idiot. Of all the people who write here you contribute the least in the way of information which doesn't appear in the articles you post.

      Who but an idiot wouldn't get a chuckle out of that 4 liner I posted? I guess it's too close to the truth.
      Gary Ruben
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        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
        I think you're an idiot.
        I will leave it to any readers to decide which of us, if either, is the idiot here. I will note in passing however, that it is you, not I, who thinks Fox news is a credible web site!

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          Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
          I guess there are the two main thoughts on the U.S. dollar.
          Maybe this is a third one:

          "When things get so bad that there is a global shortage of toilet paper, there will be plenty of American dollars for everyone's needs."

          Can you figure out the two non-mutually-exclusive ways that can be interpreted?

          Scroll down....















          (1)the world will be literally swamped in American dollars.
          (2)there won't be much of a world left, humanly speaking
          Only the rushing is heard...
          Onward flies the bird.

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            Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post
            Maybe this is a third one:

            "When things get so bad that there is a global shortage of toilet paper, there will be plenty of American dollars for everyone's needs."

            Can you figure out the two non-mutually-exclusive ways that can be interpreted?

            Scroll down....

            (1)the world will be literally swamped in American dollars.
            (2)there won't be much of a world left, humanly speaking
            You haven't set a time on this.

            I'm not as pessimistic as you in scenario 1. Mostly money is numbers in a computer these days. When was the last time you saw someone walk down the street with 1 billion American dollars?

            Drill baby, drill has two benefits. It will help the U.S. economy and keep more dollars in the U.S. They won't be buying oil if they find their own. The other benefit is it would contribute to the U.S. dollar become a Petrol Currency. The Canadian dollar is strong because of our natural resources. Did you know we make toilet paper?

            Your second scenario could be thousands of years in the future. Nuclear war is a remote possibility. The U.S. and Russia are taking apart most of their arsenals and burning it to make electricity. The Megatons to Megawatts program which was recently extended. I'm not just making this up. Here's some info. I'm a shareholder of USEC and have been for some time.

            Megatons To Megawatts

            I like to look at the big picture.
            Gary Ruben
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              Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
              You haven't set a time on this.

              I'm not as pessimistic as you in scenario 1. Mostly money is numbers in a computer these days.
              But I did set a time, "When things are so bad there is a global shortage of toilet paper". Ohhhh, you want a specific date.... too much detail! LOL

              Cash is slowly becoming king. Credit is shrinking, both available credit and a!ctual credit. And the Fed is literally printing money, isn't it?


              Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
              Your second scenario could be thousands of years in the future. Nuclear war is a remote possibility.
              If one were to believe the person behind the web site lastbookofdaniel.com (which I came across by reading this person's near death experience on a site devoted to such accounts; I find them very interesting and am tending to believe their general message), he refers to an event that future generations will call "Starburst 2020", meaning the year 2020 is the year when an actual nuclear exchange will occur. Well, at least that means we will survive beyond 2012!
              Only the rushing is heard...
              Onward flies the bird.

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                Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post
                But I did set a time, "When things are so bad there is a global shortage of toilet paper". Ohhhh, you want a specific date.... too much detail! LOL

                Cash is slowly becoming king. Credit is shrinking, both available credit and a!ctual credit. And the Fed is literally printing money, isn't it?
                I wouldn't worry too much about what they are printing. It's relative as long a there are players willing to take the debt. Probably there will be a big round of inflation with higher wages and prices along with more taxes. The population and number of taxpayers increases. The trick is always to borrow in todays hard dollars and repay in tomorrow's soft dollars.

                Do you remember when stars wanted to be paid in Euros instead of U.S. dollars? Now I guess the U.S. dollar looks pretty good. Of course, the value of currencies, like opinions, varies.

                Then again, it's only my opinion. You may well be right. It's like poker. You look at your cards, assess the situation and make your wager or fold.
                Gary Ruben
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                  I have two solutions to climate change; stay tuned. I am just working out the details and will divulge in a week or two...

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                    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
                    I have two solutions to climate change; stay tuned. I am just working out the details and will divulge in a week or two...
                    Will you be factoring in the erupting volcano which has grounded so many airliners?

                    It's all things which would happen naturally and I suspect the climate will change back.

                    Have you ever noticed the temperature seems to drop at night?
                    Gary Ruben
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                    • Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                      Here's some great stuff for y'all to know.

                      Climate Change is Caused by Mother Nature...
                      Gary Ruben
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                        TED lecture by Bill Gates on Energy: Innovating to zero...

                        http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I

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                          Having listened to the presentation, which was entertaining, a lot of it seemed to me to be pie-in-the-sky stuff. Wishing for this, hoping for that.

                          The interesting part was where he talked about using the leftover reactor waste. That's pretty cool, but it isn't a "zero energy" solution, and certainly not a permanent one.

                          I doubt that by 2020 there will be anywhere near a 20% worldwide reduction in CO2 emissions; hell, I doubt that there will be a 0% reduction worldwide.

                          Seems to me that the best chance of getting CO2 = P * S* E * C = 0 is to get P to 0, but I think very few are in favour of that. ;-)
                          "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                          • Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                            Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                            Here's some great stuff for y'all to know.

                            Climate Change is Caused by Mother Nature...
                            In addition, scientists believe one of volcano's eruption resulted in Ice Age that killed dinosaurs. In the 1700s, an Icelandic volcanic eruption helped to allow for parts of Earth to fall into a mini-Ice Age.

                            A meteorologic look at Iceland's volcanic ash cloud
                            A computer beat me in chess, but it was no match when it came to kickboxing

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                              Nature can and has caused climate change in the past. No one who has studied climate science either has or would claim otherwise.

                              Nature has also caused forest fires in the past.

                              Before men came along, no forest fires were ever caused by men. Yet there were still forest fires! Amazing! Before men came along no climate change was ever caused by men, either. Amazing!!!

                              So, what has this to do whether men can and do now cause both forest fires and climate change? Why nothing at all, that's what.

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                              • Re: The One and Only Climate Change thread...

                                Originally posted by Ernest Klubis View Post
                                In addition, scientists believe one of volcano's eruption resulted in Ice Age that killed dinosaurs. In the 1700s, an Icelandic volcanic eruption helped to allow for parts of Earth to fall into a mini-Ice Age.
                                I mentioned underwater volcanos a few months ago. In December 2009, and in two threads which were locked by the moderator.

                                It sure didn't take long to find out.

                                All the babble from the so called "scientists" won't change much, if anything. The Jurassic age temperatures are said to have been warmer than now, but who really knows how accurate the projections of the scientists are or their guesses on the demise of the dinosaurs. I learned a long time ago that for every scientist who graduated at the top of his class there is one who barely scraped by.
                                Gary Ruben
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