The One and Only Climate Change thread...

[Gary Ruben]

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The ones that I saw have quotes from Iggy's past which were not the brightest things to say if you wanted to come back to Canada and run for prime minister one day. Most were done on television or in fairly well known magazines or newspapers. Its not like he can disavow them in any way without looking pretty stupid when the clips are played on tv. What can he say? "That was my evil twin" probably won't cut it. Iggy's only chance is if the Conservatives win another minority and he can combine with the other parties in a coalition like Dion tried to do. That is probably the plan. A majority for the conservative will be the end of most of the parties financing from the taxpayer other than tax deductions for party donations.

Iggy could go back and find some of the things Harper has said and/or written.

Let's look at those attack commercials. Personally, I view them in light of Ignatieff's father being a diplomat, a Canadian Ambassador to the United Nations and President of the United Nations Security Council in the late 1960's.

He said in the TV clips, which I figure are taken out of context, he loved the republic in which he was living. I loved Manitoba when I lived there. It's not a big deal in my mind. He made no comparison to Canada.

Then there's the part where he says the U.S. is as much someone elses nation as it is his. Living and working there I'd assume he paid taxes there. I don't know if he ever had dual citizenship. In any case, if I were paying taxes and living in another country I'd feel it was just as much mine as anyone elses.

In view of the service of his father to Canada, the suggestion which goes with the statement he would have to ask Harper to allow him to come back to Canada is ridiculous.

That said, I won't be voting liberal because I don't think I can afford them. The best they can hope from me is the Conservatives will field an unacceptable candidate in this riding, again, and I'll stay home election day.

[Gary Ruben]

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Global warming had better get here quickly or the windmills won't work in Canadian winters.

The environmentalists seem to only worry about the birds which get caught in the oilsands and not the ones which are sliced and diced by the windmills. I wonder why. :)

[Garland Best]

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I was listening last week to CFRA (the local talk radio station). Iggy was skating on the canal as a photo op. One of the local Ottawa Liberal MP (or candidates, I forget which) was caught on radio saying to the media "Well, you can tell by the way he skates he's not REALLY Canadian."

I'm waiting for that quote to make the Conservative ads.

[Paul Beckwith]

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Ray Kurzweil thinks that solar will solve the climate change problem. His argument is that the growth rate will allow it to supply 100% of our energy needs in 20 years (about 10 doubling periods; like a Moore's law for solar)...

[Paul Beckwith]

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I think that this may happen as long as the Republicans and Conservatives are out of power; with them in power solar will likely be squashed again by fossil fuel interests and status quo thinking.

[Tom O'Donnell]

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Recently in my mailbox I got a copy of "Electricity prices are changing. Find out why." by the Government of Ontario (presumably the McGuinty Liberals).

There's three nice colourful pie graphs on the inside front cover. They are titled "2003 Generation", "2010(?!) Projected Generation" and "2030 Projected Generation".

Solar was 0% back in 2003. It's up to ... well, zero in 2010. And in 2030? A whopping 1.5%. For the record, the amounts projected are: Nuclear 46%, Water 20%, Conservation 14%, Wind 10%, Gas 7%, Solar PV 1.5% and Bioenergy 1.3%. Even 19 years from now we are still going to be damming rivers and splitting atoms to keep warm, it seems.

[Peter McKillop]

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... Solar was 0% back in 2003. It's up to ... well, zero in 2010. And in 2030? A whopping 1.5%. For the record, the amounts projected are: Nuclear 46%, Water 20%, Conservation 14%, Wind 10%, Gas 7%, Solar PV 1.5% and Bioenergy 1.3%. Even 19 years from now we are still going to be damming rivers and splitting atoms to keep warm, it seems.

That's great! Nothing wrong with damming rivers and splitting atoms. Wind 10%? I guess McGuinty is planning on sticking around for a while. How do you generate power through conservation?

[Gary Ruben]

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That's great! Nothing wrong with damming rivers and splitting atoms. Wind 10%? I guess McGuinty is planning on sticking around for a while. How do you generate power through conservation?

Easy. You raise the price of power and taxes to the point where business can no longer be profitable. They close up and either move to another jursidiction or go out of business. Industry and manufacturing are large power users. So you have conservation.

I think if McGuinty sticks around will depend on the voters. The people who have to decide if they can afford HST on their utility bills and gasoline costs.

In Toronto, Ford wasn't leading the polls when the election started but he pounded on the cost cutting and won handily.

[Gary Ruben]

The Winds of Change are Blowing...

Here is some of the things I've been reading recently.

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Here's more.

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Interesting articles.

[Paul Beckwith]

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Looks like we have confirmation of life elsewhere. Google "Journal of Cosmology" and have a look at the paper. Bacteria identified in chondritic meteorite. Science story of the century if it pans out...

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Looks like we have confirmation of life elsewhere. Google "Journal of Cosmology" and have a look at the paper. Bacteria identified in chondritic meteorite. Science story of the century if it pans out...

I think those reports are about as credible as Al Gore's climate "science". It looks like they have a bit of a jump on April Fools' Day. I think its neat how their fake bacterium looks like it has a little face and really complements the fake data from tree core samples used to hide the decline.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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In other news, support for the Green Party has hit another low. This time Elizabeth May is going to parachute into a BC riding and hope that she won't repeat the results from the last three ridings she was parachuted into. Better hope the Conservatives don't win a majority or the $2 per vote bounty is likely to end.

[Paul Bonham]

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Looks like we have confirmation of life elsewhere. Google "Journal of Cosmology" and have a look at the paper. Bacteria identified in chondritic meteorite. Science story of the century if it pans out...

Well, if there's life elsewhere, then we can all stop worrying about climate change on Earth. So what if man exterminates himself, there's life elsewhere, and maybe the next intelligent life form won't invent something called "income tax" to keep the worst of the species alive.

[Paul Beckwith]

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Here is a link to the paper on the critter fossils in the meteorite; really interesting images...

http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html

[Vlad Drkulec]

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That website is whacked even by climate scientist "standards".