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I'm sorry if that causes one inconvenience, surely most people don't care if people know what they think about Mr.Herbert(most of the people who have voted opinions are already predictable). If someone is angry because their vote is known I am sorry. It is a forum, I'm not sure why someone would be angry if people know their opinion.
It seems you are misquoting your own poll - the poll asks "Do you generally agree or disagree with Jean Heberts opinion?" Not what they think about Mr Hebert. It seems that Mr Craft and Mr Mallon are misreading the same way. The latter way would be judgemental of Jean Hebert and no doubt unacceptable here. Everyone should feel free to give an opinion of the posts here. Is that not so?
you are correct Mr.Dobrich, I should have said Hebert's opinion. But really your opinion on Mr.Hebert's opinion most likely reflects the way you think of him, in either a negative or positive fashion. Also judging someone's opinion is also judgmental of a certain aspect of Jean Hebert so if that is not acceptable delete this poll.
you are correct Mr.Dobrich, I should have said Hebert's opinion. But really your opinion on Mr.Hebert's opinion most likely reflects the way you think of him, in either a negative or positive fashion. Also judging someone's opinion is also judgmental of a certain aspect of Jean Hebert so if that is not acceptable delete this poll.
Not necessarily - it is quite possible to for example think that there should be minimimum standards for the Closed or that organizers should work hard for sponsorship without slagging those or disaggree or calling them incompetant or referring with disdain to Class C players who think their game is important.
There are issues for which reasonable people can disagree but arrogance and insults are unneccessary.
But for some reason most of the intelligent debates on this site eventually deteriorate into senseless name-calling. It seems impossible to keep an argument 'clean' when opinionated people clash.
When one logs in, one can get not only the poll results, but also the names of all people who voted yes, no, and 50/50. This is not mentioned in your post.
Good point. It is not at all clear that the poll is or is not anonymous. If that is a choice when creating the poll, it should be very clearly stated (I would have thought the board software would do so!)
Not necessarily - it is quite possible to for example think that there should be minimimum standards for the Closed or that organizers should work hard for sponsorship without slagging those or disaggree or calling them incompetant or referring with disdain to Class C players who think their game is important.
There are issues for which reasonable people can disagree but arrogance and insults are unneccessary.
If we would leave out everything that is "unnecessary" there wouldn't be much left on this message board. Maybe only Jean Hébert... :)
But for some reason most of the intelligent debates on this site eventually deteriorate into senseless name-calling. It seems impossible to keep an argument 'clean' when opinionated people clash.
i think it's more a function of the internet than opinionated people
Are you kidding ? It has never been my intention. Keep voting, it mightl be very enlightening not only for me but also for some voters. A potentially win-win experiment.
But Jean, you're losing the poll. The organizers with thin skins, their sycophants, general malcontents and those who are jealous of your success over the decades are voting against you.
But Jean, you're losing the poll. The organizers with thin skins, their sycophants, general malcontents and those who are jealous of your success over the decades are voting against you.
How much sleep will you lose over this? :)
I am actually losing sleep out of excitement. :) One can lose elections but not polls. And I am not into winning elections, polls or "popular" support. I am in the business of sharing honest opinions based on decades of experience in chess for its benefit. On that front the success is overwhelming if you look at the "Views" column at the right of your screen, the really meaningful poll...
That said I am actually surprised by this pretty healthy level of approval, especially considering from whom it comes from. When you share opinions with people like Hugh Brodie, Marc Ghannoum, Jonathan Berry, and Tom O'Donnell and others who know and understand not only canadian chess but also international chess inside out, why should one worry about seeing the Duncan Smiths and the Paul Bonhams on the other side ? These are actually more ammunitions if not actual votes to support the excellence of your positions. If I had drawn too much support (thus necessarily from unwanted sources) that really could have been disturbing.
Voters are the same everywhere, chess players or not. Most vote with their emotions and immediate interest rather than with a reasoned and thorough analysis of the issues, which is generally too demanding for them or simply beyond their capabilities. So in order to get their votes, one needs to make promises and tell them essentially what they want to hear. Fortunately I am not into that kind of business.
Nonetheless I note that with the cautious 50/50 group, I could probably form a majority government if need be. :)
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
- Sir Winston Churchill
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